Stop censorship

[iangaming]

Stop censoring our games and our voices there is no such thing as hate speech hate speech doesn't violated the first amendment of the United States of America

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

On the topic of Steam censoring games, Steam has the freedom of association, as in they can choose what games they want on their platform or not.

Crypto games, for obvious reason, due to heavily saturated the market is with scams and how volatile crypto is.

And games potentially involving exploitation of minors. Those seem to be Steam's two hard "Nope, not going to host it."

With it being THEIR platform, they're allowed to make that decision.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Цитата допису Kiler_best1235_Denmark:

Цитата допису Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Forums, websites, and social media for all intents and purposes are considered privately owned. Which is why those mediums (such as Steam here) are able to set their own rules, and enforce them.

Privately owned but open to the public (such as a mall, grocery store, or Steam) and a public place (such as a street, public park, etc) are considered two different entities by the law.

Unfortunately you don't know much about the law.

I know more about US law, and Valve being a US based company, than you do. That's for sure.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances..



Now tell me, is Steam congress?

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Цитата допису Kiler_best1235_Denmark:

Цитата допису Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Troll account detected, 0 posts since Jan 2023 until today, and it's all racebaiting (which was deleted) and gaslighting.

So if I detect a law as a "troll law", it doesn't have any effect?

How's them rubles at the Russian farm, Ivan?

[Mensis]

Цитата допису Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Цитата допису Kiler_best1235_Denmark:

Girl, I think it is about time you go to bed. This is a talk for grown ups.

Troll account detected, 0 posts since Jan 2023 until today, and it's all racebaiting (which was deleted) and gaslighting.

Yes, it's the alt of another account. Same exact username, just missing the avatar. They were causing a lot of trouble today but got banned, see here:

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199528518513/posthistory/

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Цитата допису Mensis:

Цитата допису Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Troll account detected, 0 posts since Jan 2023 until today, and it's all racebaiting (which was deleted) and gaslighting.

Yes, it's the alt of another account. Same exact username, just missing the avatar. They were causing a lot of trouble today but got banned, see here:

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199528518513/posthistory/

Yup, dude's trolling across multiple accounts. Kinda sad really. Oh well.

[Hamsterpeek]

You should google "what is the difference between hate speech and free speech" and educate yourself about this topic. A lot of people mix those two things up.

[William Shakesman]

Цитата допису Tito Shivan:

You can show the door to whoever don't want in your property or business.

Ask any pub onwer.

That is untrue. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 has made it very clear that people CANNOT show the door to WHOEVER they want from their business. There are hard limits to that, and it's never been an American value that companies can do that freely.

Not that the gentleman you are arguing with has a better understanding of the matter, but this is a common mistake people make about business rights because civic education is very lousy these days.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Цитата допису William Shakesman:

Цитата допису Tito Shivan:

You can show the door to whoever don't want in your property or business.

Ask any pub onwer.

That is untrue. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 has made it very clear that people CANNOT show the door to WHOEVER they want from their business. There are hard limits to that, and it's never been an American value that companies can do that freely.

Not that the gentleman you are arguing with has a better understanding of the matter, but this is a common mistake people make about business rights because civic education is very lousy these days.

No, they still can.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Цитата допису Kiler_best1235_Denmark:

Цитата допису Leonardo Da Pinchi:

You're not here in good faith, as evident as the gaslighting and multiple accounts. Ergo, I'm not obligated to answer you. :)

Yea you just proved again you certainly got a weird interpretation of the constitution. How did I force you to answer anything? How did the law force you to answer anything?

Good thing about, at least the US of A constitution, is that it's very precise and firm about Free Speech. You can call me all the names you want. You just can't censor me.

Free Speech and Freedom of Speech are two different concepts.

But hey, seeing as you don't live here, it's pretty evident you also don't know our laws. :)

[rawWwRrr]

Цитата допису Kiler_best1235_Denmark:

Unfortunately you don't know much about the law.

How is it the most uninformed feel they are the experts?

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Цитата допису rawWwRrr:

Цитата допису Kiler_best1235_Denmark:

Unfortunately you don't know much about the law.

How is it the most uninformed feel they are the experts?

Dunning-Kruger effect. Which is what Killer here is unfortunately having a bout of, I'm afraid.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Цитата допису Kiler_best1235_Denmark:

Цитата допису Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Free Speech and Freedom of Speech are two different concepts.

But hey, seeing as you don't live here, it's pretty evident you also don't know our laws. :)

Correct, I live in Denmark, the oldest country in the world.

You live in the US of A, where everyone are kids running around doing weird stuff. We are your grand parents, we are your god parents, we are your ancestral parents, we made you.

Sure you don't care that much about your grand parents, that's usual for kids, like the US population. And yes, it was good to escape the britrash/frenchucks/demorats.

But. When I see you are hitting little Timmie on the head, I have to intervene. Violence is not accepted, censorship is physical and it is violent.

And that still does nothing about your comprehension of the First Amendment.

[Malfunctioning Robot]

Цитата допису Kiler_best1235_Denmark:

Цитата допису Crashed:

First Amendment is not compelled speech. You are completely misrepresenting US law. Valve has a right not to store and host content that violates their terms of service, because hosting such content means providing a service.

I see you don't know anything about US law. Thank you kk bye.

The irony is palpable

[Tolkien Book Fan]

Цитата допису Kiler_best1235_Denmark:

It's funny how Valve/Steam says: "We have to follow the law and ban these people cause they say things that other people doesn't like"

If the people at Valve/Steam had hoped to live longer, they should have said: "We have to follow the law, the constitution, so these people can say things that other people doesn't like"

This was the first of three (so far) death threat posts this user has made in this thread. Stop engaging with this murderer, go to their profile, and report them making multiple death threats in the Suggestions forum. Hopefully the moderators will act on this soon, and Steam Support won't auto-revoke what I hope will be a permanent ban.