Massager Jan 7, 2024 @ 8:45pm
Please do not provide the global sales ranking statistics supported by your platform to Korea, and please keep the "Hentai" game among the sales ranking statistics games in Korea private
In Korea, two adult games such as "Ninja Corruption" and "Manager's Pip" were delisted from the Game Management Committee (GRAC) following Steam's official notification
Regulators have argued that due to the nature of the Steam platform, non-adult youth gamers can also freely use adult games and impose sanctions to protect youth.
Of course, Korea is not a country that tolerates the disclaimer of international standards provided by Steam.
This may seem strange, but Korea is a warring country and its citizens must be given a serial number from the state, and they must prove their age with the serial number.
Even if Korean regulators block all adult games on Steam, there are many adult games that don't matter if you buy them from official sales sites such as DL sites.
Oddly enough, in the eyes of Korean gamers, Steam refuses to apply domestic regulatory laws, but since it is a platform that follows Korea's regulatory requests, it is natural to prefer a stable platform to this unstable platform
Considering that Korea has been secretly distributed no matter how much adult games are regulated since the distant past, blocking and prohibition are not the only answer, and we know that your company has no choice but to comply with the requests of Korean regulators
Rather, due to strengthened regulations and crackdowns, many domestic adult game users are hiding in a shadowy place where the sun is not shining well
As you can see from your sales statistics, Korea has an abnormally large number of adult game users compared to the population.
You are aware of the increasing number of users bypassing the steam country due to their dissatisfaction with the Korean government
In response, Lee Eun-hee, a consumer studies professor at Inha University, said in an interview with a media outlet
"Every adult knows their last name, and even if they regulate it," he said
People who will consume adult content will eventually solve it out of the system. If so, I said in an interview that it would be better to regulate it within the system.
You can't purchase the above games by searching them on Steam, and even if content such as DLC is updated in the future
It is also not available to users who purchased the game.
I think your company sees this problem too one-dimensionally
This is business. Game companies that have spent a lot of money on your platform to support Korean language are not making normal sales revenue through national tours and illegal downloads on their platforms, and are being harmed by illegal downloads.
To be precise, this problem is caused by the country-specific game sales ranking statistics you are applying for
The reporter pointed out that this has a social problem because it allows teenagers to purchase antisocial adult games on your platform. The reporter wrote an article with the above content
Due to this situation, in Korea
Not only can these games be searched and purchased on Steam, but even if content such as DLC is updated in the future
The user who purchased the game is also unavailable.
Due to your inexperienced operations and abnormal national customary laws, only Korean consumers and game producers have been affected.
This would not have happened if you had not removed adult game exposure from our game sales statistics ranking or provided our game sales statistics ranking
I know you're gonna find your way
It's a crazy tightrope for your platform to do business in Korea, but regulators can't just touch your platform because there are a lot of Korean users
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cSg|mc-Hotsauce Jan 7, 2024 @ 8:51pm 
Originally posted by Torch:
Please do not provide the global sales ranking statistics supported by your platform to Korea, and please keep the "Hentai" game among the sales ranking statistics games in Korea private

In Korea, two adult games such as "Ninja Corruption" and "Manager's Pip" were delisted from the Game Management Committee (GRAC) following Steam's official notification
Regulators have argued that due to the nature of the Steam platform, non-adult youth gamers can also freely use adult games and impose sanctions to protect youth.
Of course, Korea is not a country that tolerates the disclaimer of international standards provided by Steam.
This may seem strange, but Korea is a warring country and its citizens must be given a serial number from the state, and they must prove their age with the serial number.
Even if Korean regulators block all adult games on Steam, there are many adult games that don't matter if you buy them from official sales sites such as DL sites.
Oddly enough, in the eyes of Korean gamers, Steam refuses to apply domestic regulatory laws, but since it is a platform that follows Korea's regulatory requests, it is natural to prefer a stable platform to this unstable platform
Considering that Korea has been secretly distributed no matter how much adult games are regulated since the distant past, blocking and prohibition are not the only answer, and we know that your company has no choice but to comply with the requests of Korean regulators
Rather, due to strengthened regulations and crackdowns, many domestic adult game users are hiding in a shadowy place where the sun is not shining well
As you can see from your sales statistics, Korea has an abnormally large number of adult game users compared to the population.
You are aware of the increasing number of users bypassing the steam country due to their dissatisfaction with the Korean government
In response, Lee Eun-hee, a consumer studies professor at Inha University, said in an interview with a media outlet
"Every adult knows their last name, and even if they regulate it," he said
People who will consume adult content will eventually solve it out of the system. If so, I said in an interview that it would be better to regulate it within the system.
You can't purchase the above games by searching them on Steam, and even if content such as DLC is updated in the future
It is also not available to users who purchased the game.
I think your company sees this problem too one-dimensionally
This is business. Game companies that have spent a lot of money on your platform to support Korean language are not making normal sales revenue through national tours and illegal downloads on their platforms, and are being harmed by illegal downloads.
To be precise, this problem is caused by the country-specific game sales ranking statistics you are applying for
The reporter pointed out that this has a social problem because it allows teenagers to purchase antisocial adult games on your platform. The reporter wrote an article with the above content
Due to this situation, in Korea
Not only can these games be searched and purchased on Steam, but even if content such as DLC is updated in the future
The user who purchased the game is also unavailable.
Due to your inexperienced operations and abnormal national customary laws, only Korean consumers and game producers have been affected.
This would not have happened if you had not removed adult game exposure from our game sales statistics ranking or provided our game sales statistics ranking
I know you're gonna find your way
It's a crazy tightrope for your platform to do business in Korea, but regulators can't just touch your platform because there are a lot of Korean users

Korea can demand control over the store just like China did, Valve would comply, work with Perfect World to get the client/store up and running and Koreans would have to deal with it.

Do you really want that? Because I know you don't. But if push comes to shove, Valve will do what's necessary.

:winterbunny2023:
Last edited by cSg|mc-Hotsauce; Jan 7, 2024 @ 8:56pm
Massager Jan 7, 2024 @ 9:31pm 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by Torch:
Please do not provide the global sales ranking statistics supported by your platform to Korea, and please keep the "Hentai" game among the sales ranking statistics games in Korea private

In Korea, two adult games such as "Ninja Corruption" and "Manager's Pip" were delisted from the Game Management Committee (GRAC) following Steam's official notification
Regulators have argued that due to the nature of the Steam platform, non-adult youth gamers can also freely use adult games and impose sanctions to protect youth.
Of course, Korea is not a country that tolerates the disclaimer of international standards provided by Steam.
This may seem strange, but Korea is a warring country and its citizens must be given a serial number from the state, and they must prove their age with the serial number.
Even if Korean regulators block all adult games on Steam, there are many adult games that don't matter if you buy them from official sales sites such as DL sites.
Oddly enough, in the eyes of Korean gamers, Steam refuses to apply domestic regulatory laws, but since it is a platform that follows Korea's regulatory requests, it is natural to prefer a stable platform to this unstable platform
Considering that Korea has been secretly distributed no matter how much adult games are regulated since the distant past, blocking and prohibition are not the only answer, and we know that your company has no choice but to comply with the requests of Korean regulators
Rather, due to strengthened regulations and crackdowns, many domestic adult game users are hiding in a shadowy place where the sun is not shining well
As you can see from your sales statistics, Korea has an abnormally large number of adult game users compared to the population.
You are aware of the increasing number of users bypassing the steam country due to their dissatisfaction with the Korean government
In response, Lee Eun-hee, a consumer studies professor at Inha University, said in an interview with a media outlet
"Every adult knows their last name, and even if they regulate it," he said
People who will consume adult content will eventually solve it out of the system. If so, I said in an interview that it would be better to regulate it within the system.
You can't purchase the above games by searching them on Steam, and even if content such as DLC is updated in the future
It is also not available to users who purchased the game.
I think your company sees this problem too one-dimensionally
This is business. Game companies that have spent a lot of money on your platform to support Korean language are not making normal sales revenue through national tours and illegal downloads on their platforms, and are being harmed by illegal downloads.
To be precise, this problem is caused by the country-specific game sales ranking statistics you are applying for
The reporter pointed out that this has a social problem because it allows teenagers to purchase antisocial adult games on your platform. The reporter wrote an article with the above content
Due to this situation, in Korea
Not only can these games be searched and purchased on Steam, but even if content such as DLC is updated in the future
The user who purchased the game is also unavailable.
Due to your inexperienced operations and abnormal national customary laws, only Korean consumers and game producers have been affected.
This would not have happened if you had not removed adult game exposure from our game sales statistics ranking or provided our game sales statistics ranking
I know you're gonna find your way
It's a crazy tightrope for your platform to do business in Korea, but regulators can't just touch your platform because there are a lot of Korean users

Korea can demand control over the store just like China did, Valve would comply, work with Perfect World to get the client/store up and running and Koreans would have to deal with it.

Do you really want that? Because I know you don't. But if push comes to shove, Valve will do what's necessary.

:winterbunny2023:

Regardless of the genre of the game, I think game makers who provide games to your company should be paid for their hard work.
If game makers and consumers are harmed by the information provided by your Steam platform, it needs to be restricted
This is no different than hiding adult games within the Steam Library
We are requesting technical assistance that is not related to steam bylaws and local laws
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Jan 7, 2024 @ 9:36pm 
Originally posted by Torch:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Korea can demand control over the store just like China did, Valve would comply, work with Perfect World to get the client/store up and running and Koreans would have to deal with it.

Do you really want that? Because I know you don't. But if push comes to shove, Valve will do what's necessary.

:winterbunny2023:

Regardless of the genre of the game, I think game makers who provide games to your company should be paid for their hard work.
If game makers and consumers are harmed by the information provided by your Steam platform, it needs to be restricted
This is no different than hiding adult games within the Steam Library
We are requesting technical assistance that is not related to steam bylaws and local laws

If the Korean government decides to block "mature adult" games from sale in Korea, Valve can not do anything about it. They must comply.

The same thing already happened to Germany last year.

:winterbunny2023:
Valve already learned the hard way what happens when they violate the laws of the countries they operate in. Deceptive reporting seems like just inviting trouble. Then again I can't predict what Valve will do and maybe the lucrative Korean market will drive them to try again. You know how profit entices people after all.
Massager Jan 7, 2024 @ 9:42pm 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by Torch:
Please do not provide the global sales ranking statistics supported by your platform to Korea, and please keep the "Hentai" game among the sales ranking statistics games in Korea private

In Korea, two adult games such as "Ninja Corruption" and "Manager's Pip" were delisted from the Game Management Committee (GRAC) following Steam's official notification
Regulators have argued that due to the nature of the Steam platform, non-adult youth gamers can also freely use adult games and impose sanctions to protect youth.
Of course, Korea is not a country that tolerates the disclaimer of international standards provided by Steam.
This may seem strange, but Korea is a warring country and its citizens must be given a serial number from the state, and they must prove their age with the serial number.
Even if Korean regulators block all adult games on Steam, there are many adult games that don't matter if you buy them from official sales sites such as DL sites.
Oddly enough, in the eyes of Korean gamers, Steam refuses to apply domestic regulatory laws, but since it is a platform that follows Korea's regulatory requests, it is natural to prefer a stable platform to this unstable platform
Considering that Korea has been secretly distributed no matter how much adult games are regulated since the distant past, blocking and prohibition are not the only answer, and we know that your company has no choice but to comply with the requests of Korean regulators
Rather, due to strengthened regulations and crackdowns, many domestic adult game users are hiding in a shadowy place where the sun is not shining well
As you can see from your sales statistics, Korea has an abnormally large number of adult game users compared to the population.
You are aware of the increasing number of users bypassing the steam country due to their dissatisfaction with the Korean government
In response, Lee Eun-hee, a consumer studies professor at Inha University, said in an interview with a media outlet
"Every adult knows their last name, and even if they regulate it," he said
People who will consume adult content will eventually solve it out of the system. If so, I said in an interview that it would be better to regulate it within the system.
You can't purchase the above games by searching them on Steam, and even if content such as DLC is updated in the future
It is also not available to users who purchased the game.
I think your company sees this problem too one-dimensionally
This is business. Game companies that have spent a lot of money on your platform to support Korean language are not making normal sales revenue through national tours and illegal downloads on their platforms, and are being harmed by illegal downloads.
To be precise, this problem is caused by the country-specific game sales ranking statistics you are applying for
The reporter pointed out that this has a social problem because it allows teenagers to purchase antisocial adult games on your platform. The reporter wrote an article with the above content
Due to this situation, in Korea
Not only can these games be searched and purchased on Steam, but even if content such as DLC is updated in the future
The user who purchased the game is also unavailable.
Due to your inexperienced operations and abnormal national customary laws, only Korean consumers and game producers have been affected.
This would not have happened if you had not removed adult game exposure from our game sales statistics ranking or provided our game sales statistics ranking
I know you're gonna find your way
It's a crazy tightrope for your platform to do business in Korea, but regulators can't just touch your platform because there are a lot of Korean users

Korea can demand control over the store just like China did, Valve would comply, work with Perfect World to get the client/store up and running and Koreans would have to deal with it.

Do you really want that? Because I know you don't. But if push comes to shove, Valve will do what's necessary.

:winterbunny2023:
These requests are only natural because they do not want to be regulated by capturing other illegal games that have not been deliberated by the state according to the country's sales ranking. Belv's status is a precarious situation in Korea, according to our regulations, all game products must be subject to national deliberation or be directly graded by our platform's self-rated service provider to block access to users who are younger than the rating
Massager Jan 7, 2024 @ 9:44pm 
Originally posted by William Shakesman:
Valve already learned the hard way what happens when they violate the laws of the countries they operate in. Deceptive reporting seems like just inviting trouble. Then again I can't predict what Valve will do and maybe the lucrative Korean market will drive them to try again. You know how profit entices people after all.

Hey, buddy, in Korea, the steam platform itself in Belv is illegal..
It's them who engage in deceptive activities, and I'm just trying to love and protect all their areas
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Jan 7, 2024 @ 9:46pm 
Originally posted by Torch:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Korea can demand control over the store just like China did, Valve would comply, work with Perfect World to get the client/store up and running and Koreans would have to deal with it.

Do you really want that? Because I know you don't. But if push comes to shove, Valve will do what's necessary.

:winterbunny2023:
These requests are only natural because they do not want to be regulated by capturing other illegal games that have not been deliberated by the state according to the country's sales ranking. Belv's status is a precarious situation in Korea, according to our regulations, all game products must be subject to national deliberation or be directly graded by our platform's self-rated service provider to block access to users who are younger than the rating

Best case scenario, it will end up just like Germany and those titles will be blocked from sale.

Worst case scenario, Korea demands their own control over the Steam client and store just like China.

:winterbunny2023:
Massager Jan 7, 2024 @ 9:50pm 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by Torch:
These requests are only natural because they do not want to be regulated by capturing other illegal games that have not been deliberated by the state according to the country's sales ranking. Belv's status is a precarious situation in Korea, according to our regulations, all game products must be subject to national deliberation or be directly graded by our platform's self-rated service provider to block access to users who are younger than the rating

Best case scenario, it will end up just like Germany and those titles will be blocked from sale.

Worst case scenario, Korea demands their own control over the Steam client and store just like China.

:winterbunny2023:

Well, this discussion is not about blocking sales or store control. As you know, the laws they follow in Korea are selective and deceptive because Steam is already a platform outside of Korean jurisdiction.
What I would like to request is that you restrict the provision of country-specific sales statistics to Korea
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Jan 7, 2024 @ 9:55pm 
Originally posted by Torch:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Best case scenario, it will end up just like Germany and those titles will be blocked from sale.

Worst case scenario, Korea demands their own control over the Steam client and store just like China.

:winterbunny2023:

Well, this discussion is not about blocking sales or store control. As you know, the laws they follow in Korea are selective and deceptive because Steam is already a platform outside of Korean jurisdiction.
What I would like to request is that you restrict the provision of country-specific sales statistics to Korea

That's not going to change what was already seen by the Korean government.

The cat is out of the bag.

Hiding statistics in the future can't change the past.

The ball is already rolling.

:winterbunny2023:
Massager Jan 7, 2024 @ 9:56pm 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by Torch:

Regardless of the genre of the game, I think game makers who provide games to your company should be paid for their hard work.
If game makers and consumers are harmed by the information provided by your Steam platform, it needs to be restricted
This is no different than hiding adult games within the Steam Library
We are requesting technical assistance that is not related to steam bylaws and local laws

If the Korean government decides to block "mature adult" games from sale in Korea, Valve can not do anything about it. They must comply.

The same thing already happened to Germany last year.

:winterbunny2023:


Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by Torch:

Regardless of the genre of the game, I think game makers who provide games to your company should be paid for their hard work.
If game makers and consumers are harmed by the information provided by your Steam platform, it needs to be restricted
This is no different than hiding adult games within the Steam Library
We are requesting technical assistance that is not related to steam bylaws and local laws

If the Korean government decides to block "mature adult" games from sale in Korea, Valve can not do anything about it. They must comply.

The same thing already happened to Germany last year.

:winterbunny2023:
A similar thing happened in Germany, so it's a shame.
The argument for this argument is not that Steam should reject South Korea's request
It takes a long time to change the law itself.
I'm asking you to reduce the inconvenience of our regulators, Steam, and Korean users.
In that sense, the number of game sales by country provided by Steam in question has brought about a great tragedy. One reporter criticized it as a social issue, and about four adult games in Korean stores were blocked
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Jan 7, 2024 @ 9:59pm 
Originally posted by Torch:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

If the Korean government decides to block "mature adult" games from sale in Korea, Valve can not do anything about it. They must comply.

The same thing already happened to Germany last year.

:winterbunny2023:


Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

If the Korean government decides to block "mature adult" games from sale in Korea, Valve can not do anything about it. They must comply.

The same thing already happened to Germany last year.

:winterbunny2023:
A similar thing happened in Germany, so it's a shame.
The argument for this argument is not that Steam should reject South Korea's request
It takes a long time to change the law itself.
I'm asking you to reduce the inconvenience of our regulators, Steam, and Korean users.
In that sense, the number of game sales by country provided by Steam in question has brought about a great tragedy. One reporter criticized it as a social issue, and about four adult games in Korean stores were blocked

Laws can be changed rather quickly when they want to.

Like I said, the cat is out of the bag.

:winterbunny2023:
Massager Jan 7, 2024 @ 10:00pm 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by Torch:

Well, this discussion is not about blocking sales or store control. As you know, the laws they follow in Korea are selective and deceptive because Steam is already a platform outside of Korean jurisdiction.
What I would like to request is that you restrict the provision of country-specific sales statistics to Korea

That's not going to change what was already seen by the Korean government.

The cat is out of the bag.

Hiding statistics in the future can't change the past.

The ball is already rolling.

:winterbunny2023:
I experienced what happened in Korea firsthand.
It's not what the Korean government was already looking at.
That's because you wrote an article about adult games.
The journalist called for regulation with these statistics
In fact, as regulators moved belatedly, adult games with high statistics were sanctioned and restricted in the region
We need to protect them by covering up the statistics
Massager Jan 7, 2024 @ 10:06pm 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by Torch:



A similar thing happened in Germany, so it's a shame.
The argument for this argument is not that Steam should reject South Korea's request
It takes a long time to change the law itself.
I'm asking you to reduce the inconvenience of our regulators, Steam, and Korean users.
In that sense, the number of game sales by country provided by Steam in question has brought about a great tragedy. One reporter criticized it as a social issue, and about four adult games in Korean stores were blocked

Laws can be changed rather quickly when they want to.

Like I said, the cat is out of the bag.

:winterbunny2023:
For half a century, we deceived democracy and liberalism into anti-communism and authoritarianism
Because of the politicians who ruled us and the old generation who supported them, this is not going to change
Liberalism like Europe will not sprout in the future
I promise you, the cat will die in the bag
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Jan 7, 2024 @ 10:09pm 
Originally posted by Torch:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

That's not going to change what was already seen by the Korean government.

The cat is out of the bag.

Hiding statistics in the future can't change the past.

The ball is already rolling.

:winterbunny2023:
I experienced what happened in Korea firsthand.
It's not what the Korean government was already looking at.
That's because you wrote an article about adult games.
The journalist called for regulation with these statistics
In fact, as regulators moved belatedly, adult games with high statistics were sanctioned and restricted in the region
We need to protect them by covering up the statistics

It doesn't matter now.

The journalists will dig deeper to find more adult games and work with the government regulators to have more delisted.

The more they find, which they will realize is far more than they can deal with one by one will have them looking into flat out blocking the sale of all mature adult games, just like Germany did.

Originally posted by Torch:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Laws can be changed rather quickly when they want to.

Like I said, the cat is out of the bag.

:winterbunny2023:
For half a century, we deceived democracy and liberalism into anti-communism and authoritarianism
Because of the politicians who ruled us and the old generation who supported them, this is not going to change
Liberalism like Europe will not sprout in the future
I promise you, the cat will die in the bag

The cat is out of the bag and roaming free on the paths of Songjeong park, enjoying the fresh air and carefree life.

:winterbunny2023:
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Massager Jan 7, 2024 @ 10:43pm 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by Torch:
I experienced what happened in Korea firsthand.
It's not what the Korean government was already looking at.
That's because you wrote an article about adult games.
The journalist called for regulation with these statistics
In fact, as regulators moved belatedly, adult games with high statistics were sanctioned and restricted in the region
We need to protect them by covering up the statistics

It doesn't matter now.

The journalists will dig deeper to find more adult games and work with the government regulators to have more delisted.

The more they find, which they will realize is far more than they can deal with one by one will have them looking into flat out blocking the sale of all mature adult games, just like Germany did.

Originally posted by Torch:
For half a century, we deceived democracy and liberalism into anti-communism and authoritarianism
Because of the politicians who ruled us and the old generation who supported them, this is not going to change
Liberalism like Europe will not sprout in the future
I promise you, the cat will die in the bag

The cat is out of the bag and roaming free on the paths of Songjeong park, enjoying the fresh air and carefree life.

:winterbunny2023:

In Korea, a law on the designation of domestic agents for overseas games was recently announced
Steam's designated domestic agent will be subject to compliance with business obligations and prohibitions, prohibition of illegal game distribution, and if Steam's illegal acts are found, the domestic agent designated by Steam will be legally taken
Consider the astronomical cost of a law firm of a representative designated by Steam in Korea.
I have advised users in Korea of the dangers of the law and earnestly asked the proposed Senator to remove the designation of Belv's domestic agent from the bill
Many Korean users protested, and the senator reluctantly dropped the designation of Belv's domestic agent from the bill
In Korea, five million people in Korea, the abolition of game regulatory institutions, and 5,000 people gathered and applied special audit institutions.
Still, politicians are not willing to change the existing Stens
It's becoming too much to stop Korea from attacking Steam
I just feel skeptical about what I'm working on for this platform. Maybe at the right time, the regulators will blast the Korean steam platform. Yes, the cat will be thrown out of the bag
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