Boomer Shooter Tag shouldn't be a thing

[Ishan451]

The term Boomer Shooter was coined to be derisive about Retrostyled Indi shooters that are created in a Pixel aesthetic.

The term boomer is being used to show contempt for older people these days and tagging games boomer shooter is quite simply showing contempt for the games and their type.

It being popular on some social media sites, particularly the dead bird one that is called like a porn site these days, doesn't mean it should be a thing on Steam.

Call it retro shooter or classic shooter or 90ties shooter. But Boomer Shooter is clearly meant to show contempt for the subject matter.

I quite frankly take exception to the term as someone that enjoys these type of games. There is nothing wrong with titles like Boltgun and there is also absolutely no reason to be derisive about it and calling them in a disparaging fashion.

Boomer has been used as an insult for a few years now and having that Tag there is a meme at best and insulting at worst.

And as i am sure, the usual suspects will be around shortly to talk about my feefees, and how it is A-okay and that we should all be fine with insulting labels, don't really expect a response for me.

[Aesthier]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sasori Kigaru:

Can't get insulted if you don't let it insult you

Oprindeligt skrevet af dominikrni:

Boomer doesn't really seem offensive. Its only seen as an insult since people constantly used it as one.

The exact same thing could be said for the N word or the C word yet both those words were used in society as derogatory descriptors to individuals or groups of individuals with specific characteristics that they had no control over.

The first one applies to race, the second to sex, and now we have one for age, Boomer.

Neither of the first two are allowed based on their derogatory and discriminatory societal histories and I see no reason Boomer should be allowed either as it s a term that is often currently used as a derogatory term in society.

Fair is fair after all. Either shut it out for the same reasons or allow the others back.

Frankly tags should be descriptors of the games and thus using words that identify the people that played those games more than the games themselves should be subject to removal.

If you want a tag that identifies the age of the game then simply use the decade it is from 80s, 90s, etc... if you can't use classic/retro/antique.

[[N]ebsun]

Boomer is a reference to the "baby boomer" generation... literally just a name for that particular generation based on the high population growth (boom). Same as "millennial", or Gen Z (yet to be named), or the "silent" generation.

"Boomer" is not an insult. Neither is "Boomer Shooter", a tag for games that boomers might enjoy playing... Which is useful to help people find games they might enjoy.
It's the same as a tag with "millennial shooter"

[Tiny Trees]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Nebsun:

Boomer is a reference to the "baby boomer" generation... literally just a name for that particular generation based on the high population growth (boom). Same as "millennial", or Gen Z (yet to be named), or the "silent" generation.

"Boomer" is not an insult. Neither is "Boomer Shooter", a tag for games that boomers might enjoy playing... Which is useful to help people find games they might enjoy.
It's the same as a tag with "millennial shooter"

Whereas if you use the term classic game, or retro, you are not making a personal reference.

I originally thought that boomer-shooter was reference to the type of game. When guns did not need reloading. Meaning it was just boom your way through. No stopping to take cover and reload.

[Ç!ｲ!乙3η-ﾒ]

Boomer here, I am totally fine with the Boomer shooter tag...

This is because boomer is just a word nothing more nothing less.....

Not everyone gets butt hurt over a label/name.... Seems a little strange to me to be so triggered over a word like Boomer......

[Megamaw]

Wasn't Boomer Shooter lovingly coined by the devs of DUSK to refer to their own game, which then caught on?

Walking Simulator has meaner-spirited roots than it, and we're letting that stay.

Finding actual Roguelikes is hard as hell, as we went from Roguelites being called Roguelikes, too, and now any game with any procedural generation is now called a roguelike.

I think, somehow, 'boomer shooter' being a term coined lovingly by a company who loves the genre deeply, is gonna be fine.

[Hard Core Rikki]

Boomer shooter is fine as a description.

Its descriptive of the style of shooters that predated the casual-friendly regenerative cover mechanics. Its not necessarilly about the visual style.

[MAXE]

Boomer is probably the most degrading word for people over 20+... It's provocative and condescending, it'd be like calling the game a snot-heavy curling game, so you know to avoid it because it's filled with toddlers who can't figure it out!

[Start_Running]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ishan451:

The term Boomer Shooter was coined to be derisive about Retrostyled Indi shooters that are created in a Pixel aesthetic.

The term boomer is being used to show contempt for older people these days and tagging games boomer shooter is quite simply showing contempt for the games and their type.

You are waay too sensitive m8.
TRhe term was invented by gamers so you're kinda outta luck.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ishan451:

Call it retro shooter or classic shooter or 90ties shooter. But Boomer Shooter is clearly meant to show contempt for the subject matter.

Retro shooter has its own connotations and classic is very vague. Boomer speeks to a very specific combination of look, feel, sound, and mechanics.


M'duide. Gamers ain't gonna stop using it and thusly developers aren't gonna stop using it. It's as much a part of the vocabulary as Metroidvania opr SOuls-like

[Sigma957]

True boomers didn't have first person shooters.

[Pscht]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sigma957:

True boomers didn't have first person shooters.

Yeah, they had to go outside and kill people in person. What a drag.

[Wunicolf]

Well i am a bit sad about that creative tag!

We are also devs, one of the "Boomer Shooter" game.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2461580/Ruiga_Pirates/

But i really like some of other tags ideas like; Survivors-Like, Bullet Heaven etc.

Now a bit confused to should i use that "Boomer-Shooter" or not?

[crunchyfrog]

No it isn't. This isn't how language works. Why do so many people utterly misunderstand how language operates?

It's NOT PRESCRIPTIVE. It's descriptive.

It may well have started out as a derogatory term (though I'm not sure that is even the case, but let's assume it was), but it's not now. Because lanaguage CHANGES and quickly.

I've pointed out that the word "literally" is quite clear on it's definition up to a few years ago. It meant something that is exactly as you state. Yet people were using it to mean the opposite, more as an embellishment to a sentence, kind of like "REALLY".

Were they wrong? Noope, because langauge and dictionaries define USAGE. So once it started getting popular that then becomes a defintion whether you like it or not.

Here in Britain, our political party the conservatices have a short-hand name, TORIES. That was coined originally as a very derogatory term to insult. They ended up adopting as an actual name and nowadays most people wouldn't even know that it was originally that.

Because words change over time.

[WolfEisberg]

Boomer Shooter term has never been derisive at all, at least for people who aren't looking for ways to be offended by anything and everything. These people who are like that, that need safe places, really need to stop trying to control language and they need to grow thicker skin.

[WolfEisberg]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Megamaw:

Wasn't Boomer Shooter lovingly coined by the devs of DUSK to refer to their own game, which then caught on?

Walking Simulator has meaner-spirited roots than it, and we're letting that stay.

Finding actual Roguelikes is hard as hell, as we went from Roguelites being called Roguelikes, too, and now any game with any procedural generation is now called a roguelike.

I think, somehow, 'boomer shooter' being a term coined lovingly by a company who loves the genre deeply, is gonna be fine.

Here is the story behind Boomer Shooter term and dusk developer

https://twitter.com/AndrewHulshult/status/1743039322406691283

The term "boomer shooter" was a lovingly cheeky term we saw used once when developing Dusk as a description for Doom. So we ran with it because it was funny. It would go on to be associated with a entire genre of shooters.

This is why the term "Boomer Shooter" has never never been used as a derisive term at all, it has always been used in a lovingly way since the beginning. The OP is literally wrong in every single way in what he is saying.

[Ç!ｲ!乙3η-ﾒ]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Wunicolf:

Now a bit confused to should i use that "Boomer-Shooter" or not?

Yes use it..... It is fine to use.....