For Dev Team. Ability to download W7/W8 games before end of service.

[SBHR]

Greetings,



I understand that it is important to maintain safety of other users whenever a PC connects with others.

However, my request concerns the availability of W7/W8 games by download. So that, insofar as it is played solo and without interaction with anyone, their use does not endanger anyone other than the client. Knowing that any interaction will become impossible due to the fact that Steam will cut the service.

In summary, my request is that the possibility of mass downloading games locally, and in particular those that only work under W7/W8, be studied. This, before the expiry date with W7/W8.
If some assumed interactivity with other players, they would not endanger other players because Steam will not make it accessible to PC W7/W8 anyway.

Please understand regardless of the intended contract between Steam and its customers that these games have been purchased. This could therefore legitimately influence the form and the purchasing platform.

Please take my request for consideration. Knowing that it is quite obvious that it is preferable to have a PC under W10/W11. Which is also my case. But these PCs cannot run very good games under W7/W8.

Cordially.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Allowing the game to run without Steam is up to the individual developers of that game.

[Gwarsbane]

SBHR님이 먼저 게시:

Greetings,



I understand that it is important to maintain safety of other users whenever a PC connects with others.

However, my request concerns the availability of W7/W8 games by download. So that, insofar as it is played solo and without interaction with anyone, their use does not endanger anyone other than the client. Knowing that any interaction will become impossible due to the fact that Steam will cut the service.

In summary, my request is that the possibility of mass downloading games locally, and in particular those that only work under W7/W8, be studied. This, before the expiry date with W7/W8.
If some assumed interactivity with other players, they would not endanger other players because Steam will not make it accessible to PC W7/W8 anyway.

Please understand regardless of the intended contract between Steam and its customers that these games have been purchased. This could therefore legitimately influence the form and the purchasing platform.

Please take my request for consideration. Knowing that it is quite obvious that it is preferable to have a PC under W10/W11. Which is also my case. But these PCs cannot run very good games under W7/W8.

Cordially.

You can download them right now, but here is the issue... if the games still require Steam DRM to run you're going to have to have the latest version which will only be running on windows 10+.

And no Valve can't remove the Steam DRM requirement because that would be illegal for Valve to do. They don't own the games. They also don't have the source codes to remove the Steam DRM.

You should go and contact all the ones that still require Steam DRM and ask them to remove the need for it, though that could mean you lose a bunch of stuff like achievements and other related stuff.

[Sir Jia Xing]

Gwarsbane님이 먼저 게시:

You can download them right now, but here is the issue... if the games still require Steam DRM to run you're going to have to have the latest version which will only be running on windows 10+.

This is kinda off-topic, but what do you think is going to happen to games like Max Payne 3 and LA Noire(for example)? i just checked and their system requirements literally say "OS: Windows 7 64-Bit Service Pack 1", not "Windows 7 or higher/newer".

Edit: Found another one, Just Cause 3 even says "OS: Vista SP2 / Windows 7.1 SP1 / Windows 8.1 (64-bit Operating System Required)"! What da hell?

[Zefar]

Sir Jia Xing님이 먼저 게시:

This is kinda off-topic, but what do you think is going to happen to games like Max Payne 3 and LA Noire(for example)? i just checked and their system requirements literally say "OS: Windows 7 64-Bit Service Pack 1", not "Windows 7 or higher/newer".

Edit: Found another one, Just Cause 3 even says "OS: Vista SP2 / Windows 7.1 SP1 / Windows 8.1 (64-bit Operating System Required)"! What da hell?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBqpIYMWQrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auQzGUlJsDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09xUVxohTEU

All running on Win10.

So here's the thing. Just because a store page only mention 7 it doesn't mean it only works on 7. It just means the developers hasn't updated it.

If you find a game you think doesn't run on Win10, just go to youtube and search the game name and add Win10 after it.

[Nx Machina]

Sir Jia Xing님이 먼저 게시:

This is kinda off-topic, but what do you think is going to happen to games like Max Payne 3 and LA Noire(for example)? i just checked and their system requirements literally say "OS: Windows 7 64-Bit Service Pack 1", not "Windows 7 or higher/newer".

Edit: Found another one, Just Cause 3 even says "OS: Vista SP2 / Windows 7.1 SP1 / Windows 8.1 (64-bit Operating System Required)"! What da hell?

Rockstar did not update the store page for Max Payne 3 and LA Noire as they are responsible for the store page. Secondly Max Payne 3 and LA Noire run on Windows 10. I have them.

[Crazy Tiger]

Sir Jia Xing님이 먼저 게시:

Gwarsbane님이 먼저 게시:

You can download them right now, but here is the issue... if the games still require Steam DRM to run you're going to have to have the latest version which will only be running on windows 10+.

This is kinda off-topic, but what do you think is going to happen to games like Max Payne 3 and LA Noire(for example)? i just checked and their system requirements literally say "OS: Windows 7 64-Bit Service Pack 1", not "Windows 7 or higher/newer".

Edit: Found another one, Just Cause 3 even says "OS: Vista SP2 / Windows 7.1 SP1 / Windows 8.1 (64-bit Operating System Required)"! What da hell?

Nothing. You're taking such requirements too literal.

[Start_Running]

Crazy Tiger님이 먼저 게시:

Sir Jia Xing님이 먼저 게시:

This is kinda off-topic, but what do you think is going to happen to games like Max Payne 3 and LA Noire(for example)? i just checked and their system requirements literally say "OS: Windows 7 64-Bit Service Pack 1", not "Windows 7 or higher/newer".

Edit: Found another one, Just Cause 3 even says "OS: Vista SP2 / Windows 7.1 SP1 / Windows 8.1 (64-bit Operating System Required)"! What da hell?

Nothing. You're taking such requirements too literal.

Pretty much.
That more says what os was out at the time. And devs are very slow in updating their reqs.
Plus devs try their best to code their games in an OS agnostic fashion. I.e they try not to lean too heavily on features specific to a particular version of the os, or a particular hardware driver.

They learned their mistake during the voodoo days.

[Gwarsbane]

Sir Jia Xing님이 먼저 게시:

Gwarsbane님이 먼저 게시:

You can download them right now, but here is the issue... if the games still require Steam DRM to run you're going to have to have the latest version which will only be running on windows 10+.

This is kinda off-topic, but what do you think is going to happen to games like Max Payne 3 and LA Noire(for example)? i just checked and their system requirements literally say "OS: Windows 7 64-Bit Service Pack 1", not "Windows 7 or higher/newer".

Edit: Found another one, Just Cause 3 even says "OS: Vista SP2 / Windows 7.1 SP1 / Windows 8.1 (64-bit Operating System Required)"! What da hell?

Every one of those games can be run on windows 10.

The only thing thats going to stop working is the steam client when it switches over. Meaning if you are running windows 7 you will no longer be able to run the steam client.

BUT if you get the free or even cheap upgrade to windows 10 you will still be able to run all those.

I'm able to run games from 20+ years ago on my windows 10 machine... long before windows XP was even around. None of them mention windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10 or 11... but they all work on them. Some times a little prodding needs to be done for some of the really old ones but still. Heck I have games that I ran on windows 3.1 around somewhere here and I bet you they will run on windows 10. If I could only figure out where that DVD was.

What you are looking at on that page is the MINIMUM requirement, even the "recommended" is a this is the minimum you should have. Meaning you need windows 7 or higher. Just because it doesn't include windows 10 or 11 doesn't mean it won't run on them.

Do you think a game won't run on a system that has more ram then it asks for? A more powerful CPU then it asks for?

The reason why it doesn't include windows 10 is because there are no developers around to bother testing it fully to make sure it works on it.


As Crazy Tiger says... you are taking the requirements too literal.

[Start_Running]

Gwarsbane님이 먼저 게시:

Sir Jia Xing님이 먼저 게시:

This is kinda off-topic, but what do you think is going to happen to games like Max Payne 3 and LA Noire(for example)? i just checked and their system requirements literally say "OS: Windows 7 64-Bit Service Pack 1", not "Windows 7 or higher/newer".

Edit: Found another one, Just Cause 3 even says "OS: Vista SP2 / Windows 7.1 SP1 / Windows 8.1 (64-bit Operating System Required)"! What da hell?

Every one of those games can be run on windows 10.

The only thing thats going to stop working is the steam client when it switches over. Meaning if you are running windows 7 you will no longer be able to run the steam client.

It's not even going to be that cut and dry. WIth XP. if I recall the client just stopped getting updates and eventually you couldn't access certain features like the library because the client couldn't communicate with the backend

[Spawn of Totoro]

Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:

It's not even going to be that cut and dry. WIth XP. if I recall the client just stopped getting updates and eventually you couldn't access certain features like the library because the client couldn't communicate with the backend

Before that, they did have an announcement and a FAQ article stating XP would stop working.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/6E66-54EC-3EFC-283C

So they did know the update would finally kill XP support, through they did stop supporting XP updates a few years before.

Also around the need to switch to an updated version of CEF, just like with Windows 7.

They likely haven't made specific updates in regards to Windows 7 in a few years either.

[SBHR]

Try to play HOI III with W10. A bunch of problems. In this situation, for instance, i would go and play with GOG. Think about that Steam cause there are some other games like that. Don't think it should be customer to negociate with producer of game but Steam for DRM.

[Spawn of Totoro]

SBHR님이 먼저 게시:

Try to play HOI III with W10. A bunch of problems. In this situation, for instance, i would go and play with GOG. Think about that Steam cause there are some other games like that. Don't think it should be customer to negociate with producer of game but Steam for DRM.

From 2016:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/25890/discussions/0/351659704040778032/

Seems many have gotten it to work just fine on Windows 10. Even a few suggestions on how to get it to work in that thread.

[SBHR]

I read all those hints. Be sure that it doesn't work for all. Unfortunately.

[SBHR]

Dev team, some news?

[Nx Machina]

SBHR님이 먼저 게시:

Dev team, some news?

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A