Steam Points Feedback Suggestion

[BigCountry0420]

Yea I got to come out and say Steam points are worthless to me unless you are going to make them to where i can use them on getting discounts on video games and or if i have enough points spend them to buy the entire game, and im just going to come out and say this how do you think Hemp stores online work, i spend money and earn points toward discounts and or to pay for my purchase fully, other than that they are worthless and i will never use them for this avatar stuff or to make steam look more fancy than it already is, please change this so we may be able to use them for discounts or purchases like it should be.......

[Tanoomba]

Originalmente postado por AmsterdamHeavy:

Digital chotchkes are not a driver of sales.

They also essentially cost Valve nothing, unlike offering discounts.

[Goldrush]

Originalmente postado por Tanoomba:

Originalmente postado por AmsterdamHeavy:

Digital chotchkes are not a driver of sales.

They also essentially cost Valve nothing, unlike offering discounts.

They make the sale while Valve carries the bandwith costs and sees ZERO money from that purchase, lol.

[Goldrush]

Originalmente postado por cinedine:

Originalmente postado por AmsterdamHeavy:

The thing that all of the panhandlers seem to overlook is that these programs are used to drive sales engagement.

Did you ever consider, for one second, that Valve has no need of these incentives to drive sales?

Thats the reality in basic business terms. Valve has no need to implement such a program, so they dont. Why give away money for literally nothing?

Oh. Right. So you "feel good" or something.

And here is where your "argument" collapses:
Steam has implemented such a programme. You get points for spending money on Steam and only on Steam. What do you think this was meant for? To make you feel good? Or to get back sales they lose to Humble, Fanatical, GMG and other resellers?

Not to mention that Valve are small fry compared to Sony and Nintendo so they could use a loyalty program thats better than theirs instead of one thats a complete joke in comparisson.

Especially now that the PC gaming community is hurting so much due to Nvidia and AMDs lack of concern for PC gamers needs. The grass is starting to look a hell of a lot greener elsewhere.

[Start_Running]

Originalmente postado por Anxiety:

Yep, steam points are fun bonus for cosmetics.
Award system though is problematic.

Only as problematic as the userbase is.
It is on the one hands a way to reward ciontributors and those who enrich the various communities.
On the other hand...

[Anxiety]

Originalmente postado por Start_Running:

Only as problematic as the userbase is.
It is on the one hands a way to reward ciontributors and those who enrich the various communities.
On the other hand...

Well, yeah, I don't really know how I feel about this.

I, and many other people, enjoy various fluff and community features, that allow additional interaction; not only on Steam, but in general. The problem arises when 1) there is so much useless stuff that it detracts from communication and damages the flow of information, 2) inevitably gets exploited down to nuclear level.

Humans be humans, and they exploit and abuse every bit available. It requires careful thought and planning, something that Valve did not really do in regard to this whole system.

Not to mention that due to the nature of the platform, its userbase is extremely volatile. This aint some cross-stitching club. Though I've seen countless atrocious bloody wars in that too, so...

[cinedine]

Originalmente postado por AmsterdamHeavy:

Originalmente postado por cinedine:

And here is where your "argument" collapses:
Steam has implemented such a programme. You get points for spending money on Steam and only on Steam. What do you think this was meant for? To make you feel good? Or to get back sales they lose to Humble, Fanatical, GMG and other resellers?

Digital chotchkes are not a driver of sales.

Meanwhile the rest of us has actually lived through the past five+ years.
I mean, sure you are entittled to you opinion. But considering what platform you made that statement on, you might want to rethink.

[Tandy]

Originalmente postado por AmsterdamHeavy:

Digital chotchkes are not a driver of sales.

Originalmente postado por Tanoomba:

They also essentially cost Valve nothing, unlike offering discounts.

What a bunch of naive amateurs comments.

Everything, move sales.
Everything, costs.

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To reply to op: points will be mantained like this, it's not economic for Valve otherwise, twas another way to milk. Many reasons already stated by "regulars" because "they know".

Nonetheless, you can search on the trading discussion forum for "points" and "awards", and get yourself an idea on what you can currently do with your unused points.

[[snus aim]Mamin programmist]

sheee

[Reaper]

Originalmente postado por U-bot:

Originalmente postado por cinedine:

And here is where your "argument" collapses:
Steam has implemented such a programme. You get points for spending money on Steam and only on Steam. What do you think this was meant for? To make you feel good? Or to get back sales they lose to Humble, Fanatical, GMG and other resellers?

Not to mention that Valve are small fry compared to Sony and Nintendo so they could use a loyalty program thats better than theirs instead of one thats a complete joke in comparisson.

The difference is that Sony and Nintendo actually MAKE GAMES. Valve hasn't been a game developer in a decade. They literally just coast on the backs of half-life, L4D, Portal, and CSGO

[Start_Running]

Originalmente postado por Reaper:

Originalmente postado por U-bot:

Not to mention that Valve are small fry compared to Sony and Nintendo so they could use a loyalty program thats better than theirs instead of one thats a complete joke in comparisson.

The difference is that Sony and Nintendo actually MAKE GAMES. Valve hasn't been a game developer in a decade. They literally just coast on the backs of half-life, L4D, Portal, and CSGO

Because Job Simulator and Alyx don't exist?

[Zarineth]

Originalmente postado por Start_Running:

Originalmente postado por Reaper:

The difference is that Sony and Nintendo actually MAKE GAMES. Valve hasn't been a game developer in a decade. They literally just coast on the backs of half-life, L4D, Portal, and CSGO

Because Job Simulator and Alyx don't exist?

+ DotA Underlords, Artifact.

[cinedine]

Originalmente postado por Zarineth:

Originalmente postado por Start_Running:

Because Job Simulator and Alyx don't exist?

+ DotA Underlords, Artifact.

Not exactly prime examples and very forgettable.
Underlords funnily enough was developed by Campo Santos after their acquisition by Valve.
Anyway, just cements that they haven't made a good game for quite some time. Hell, even CS:GO and L4D2 was developed mainly by Turtle Rock if I am not mistaken.

Also: what does Job Simulator has to do with Valve?

[FOXDUDE69]

Originalmente postado por cinedine:

Also: what does Job Simulator has to do with Valve?

I think he means that Aperture Desk Job "game" that´s basically an half hour long tech demo for the Steam Deck.

[FOXDUDE69]

Originalmente postado por Zarineth:

Originalmente postado por Start_Running:

Because Job Simulator and Alyx don't exist?

+ DotA Underlords, Artifact.

Aperture Desk Job: 30 min tech demo for the Steam Deck.

Alyx: Leveraging the Half Life brand to sell a few more VR kits, while Half Life fans wait for a new mainstream installment.

DOTA Underlords + Artifact: Greedily chasing that esports/lootbox money and delivering 2 unappealing products that are inferior to games they are copying.

Comparing these to the kinda stuff Sony and Nintendo put out is utterly absurd.

Apart from CSGO and DOTA 2. all the value Steam has as a platform comes from third party developers.

That´s one of the many reasons why it would be in Valve´s best interest to deliver a loyalty program that´s not a complete joke.

[AROCK!!!]

Originalmente postado por FOXDUDE69:

Originalmente postado por Zarineth:

+ DotA Underlords, Artifact.

Aperture Desk Job: 30 min tech demo for the Steam Deck.

Alyx: Leveraging the Half Life brand to sell a few more VR kits, while Half Life fans wait for a new mainstream installment.

DOTA Underlords + Artifact: Greedily chasing that esports/lootbox money and delivering 2 unappealing products that are inferior to games they are copying.

Comparing these to the kinda stuff Sony and Nintendo put out is utterly absurd.

Apart from CSGO and DOTA 2. all the value Steam has as a platform comes from third party developers.

That´s one of the many reasons why it would be in Valve´s best interest to deliver a loyalty program that´s not a complete joke.

As long as Valve maintains its near majority hold on gaming with its legions of mindless fanbois, they have no reason or need to implement such a program.