Psymon² 14 lutego 2023 o 19:57
empathy test
There should be a test before being permitted to post to forums, to ensure sufficient empathy from the individual.

If not for the ability to post and reply, then perhaps for the ability to report?

edit: telling us to block, report, and ignore the rude and unempathetic users is not sufficient
as those users never ignore
and always report
regardless of whether any "rules" were broken
and no regard for whether they break any rules themselves
and they'll gaslight you if you try to call out their nonsense
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Psymon²; 15 lutego 2023 o 17:05
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kitt 15 lutego 2023 o 5:15 
I lack empathy :(
Crazy Tiger 15 lutego 2023 o 5:17 
Początkowo opublikowane przez kitt:
I lack empathy :(
Same here. Though it's part of my autistic charm.
Początkowo opublikowane przez Psymon²:
There should be a test before being permitted to post to forums, to ensure sufficient empathy from the individual.

If not for the ability to post and reply, then perhaps for the ability to report?

edit: telling us to block, report, and ignore rude and unempathetic users is not sufficient
as those users never ignore
and always report
regardless of whether any "rules" were broken
and no regard for whether they break any rules themselves

Ever considered people can fake having empathy? Or can choose not to have it?

I mean the real suggestion here is "get rid of the cabal Psymon thinks exists" but the way you hide it is incredibly flawed.
Tito Shivan 15 lutego 2023 o 5:23 
Users: [Googles "Steam empathy test answers"]

This would face the same issue pinned threads have. You can have them, you can force people to visit them, but you cannot force people to learn from them.

At a certain point we entertained the idea of having a mandatory thread every new user had to go through (as other forums have had for years)... but at the end of the day it always boils to the same problem. You can bring a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink.

(Wish I kept the link to an old video about behaving in forums that was brought a lot back in SPUF, it was what originated the idea)
Brian9824 15 lutego 2023 o 6:47 
This idea doesn't sound like it would be of any help. Afterall the correct answers would end up on youtube or similar sites rendering it moot.

Not to mention this would violate multiple laws including the Americans with Disabilities act.
cinedine 15 lutego 2023 o 6:54 
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No one is entitled to empathy, either.

Empathy is nothing you can demand, it's a human trait.
For a healthy discussion it's quite important to understand where the other side is coming from. Else you are going to have a shout match.
Or as my favourite BS quote goes "don't confuse improvement with need, want or desire". Which shows not only a lack of understanding of the term "improvement" but also a lack of understanding why some people make certain suggestions.
Brian9824 15 lutego 2023 o 6:58 
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No one is entitled to empathy, either.

Empathy is nothing you can demand, it's a human trait.
For a healthy discussion it's quite important to understand where the other side is coming from. Else you are going to have a shout match.
Or as my favourite BS quote goes "don't confuse improvement with need, want or desire". Which shows not only a lack of understanding of the term "improvement" but also a lack of understanding why some people make certain suggestions.

You don't need to have empathy to post that installing an exterior screen door on a submarine is a bad idea. In fact its often found that there is more value from a blunt listing of an idea's flaws, then trying to sugar coat it and beat around the bush.

Of course its a moot point since the OP's idea wouldn't even be legal to implement.
kitt 15 lutego 2023 o 7:14 
Początkowo opublikowane przez brian9824:
This idea doesn't sound like it would be of any help. Afterall the correct answers would end up on youtube or similar sites rendering it moot.

Not to mention this would violate multiple laws including the Americans with Disabilities act.

so why did Dalton get banned for saying that you literally had the same suggestion with your "quiz"?

whats going on? also funny how the bans for us are literally within minute of posting..



I mean your suggestion with a quiz would also just end up with it being useless due to the answers being posted online.
Same with the emptahy test.

Of course ignoring the legal site of things.



Edit:


https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/3488626756865789799/

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3761103845937619587/#c3761103845938204480

Ostatnio edytowany przez: kitt; 15 lutego 2023 o 7:19
Block report and move on is the best option. Block them so they can't communicate with you, report their bannable behaviour and leave them be.

If you engage them you are stepping down to their level and usually end up as guity as they are.
Brian9824 15 lutego 2023 o 7:30 
Do you have a question Kitt? My stance on a quiz has changed for the reporting, and if you had read the EA post you would have noticed the quiz and disclaimer was so people can't complain about not knowing what EA was.

it was a good idea and wouldn't break any laws unlike this suggestion, but people sadly ruin many good ideas by not being trustworthy
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Brian9824; 15 lutego 2023 o 7:31
Psymon² 15 lutego 2023 o 7:31 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Vault Hunter 101:
Block report and move on is the best option. Block them so they can't communicate with you, report their bannable behaviour and leave them be.

If you engage them you are stepping down to their level and usually end up as guity as they are.
a blocked message, is an unseen message, and therefore an unreported message :C
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Początkowo opublikowane przez Vault Hunter 101:
Block report and move on is the best option. Block them so they can't communicate with you, report their bannable behaviour and leave them be.

If you engage them you are stepping down to their level and usually end up as guity as they are.
a blocked message, is an unseen message, and therefore an unreported message :C

Blocked people cannot post on your profile, if they post on your friend's profiles then ask them to block and/or report.
Psymon² 15 lutego 2023 o 7:38 
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Początkowo opublikowane przez Psymon²:
a blocked message, is an unseen message, and therefore an unreported message :C

Blocked people cannot post on your profile, if they post on your friend's profiles then ask them to block and/or report.
I am referring to the forums :D:
Początkowo opublikowane przez Psymon²:
Początkowo opublikowane przez Vault Hunter 101:

Blocked people cannot post on your profile, if they post on your friend's profiles then ask them to block and/or report.
I am referring to the forums :D:
How very moot then. Just because you throw someone on block, doesn't mean it won't get reported.
Bee🐝 15 lutego 2023 o 7:46 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Psymon²:
Początkowo opublikowane przez Vault Hunter 101:
Block report and move on is the best option. Block them so they can't communicate with you, report their bannable behaviour and leave them be.

If you engage them you are stepping down to their level and usually end up as guity as they are.
a blocked message, is an unseen message, and therefore an unreported message :C
Well, if you can’t see it, then you don’t have to report it - it’s not bothering you.

Honestly, if the forums continuously makes a person feel unhappy with the place, maybe it’s time to take a voluntary break from it; there are other places to post. At some point the pain is self inflicted.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Bee🐝; 15 lutego 2023 o 7:47
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