Mandate a 2 hour gameplay requirement to leave reviews or instantly remove them if someone reviews than refunds a game

[Labyrinth2 0]

I’ve been coming across a bunch of people who intentionally review bomb games who aren’t even interested in the game who buy it, only play the game for like a 2 minutes, and to leave a negative review for the purpose of gaslighting and drama. They do it to troll or call out developers/publishers/creators for their personal beliefs and not actually leave any productive responses to the game itself. They do this, than refund the game where their review still remains.

I suggest a 2 hour limit which is past the return policy in order to cut down the review bombs in order to discourage gaslighting and drama on Steam. Another alternative is that if they leave a review than they choose to refund the game within the return time limit, it should instantly be removed.

[no154370]

here are some things that OP fails to take note

1) all companies throughout the whole world got people wrote "negative reviews" too.

2) people have the right to choose whether to write "negative reviews" or "positive reviews".

thus, we can't force people to write "positive reviews" only.

it is equivalent to this

a) i just want everyone to praise me, i completely DISLIKE hearing NEGATIVE COMMENTS and CRITICISM from people

and this is what you are implying OP.

3) even those who write fanfics, web novels........etc also got people write "negative reviews" on their stories too.

same with those authors who wrote books to be sold in bookstores.

the same applies to "movies" as well.

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all in all, Honest Criticism about "bugs and glitches" in Games will help to improve the Games.

if there are ZERO reviews on such things, then how are the Game Developers and Game Publishers going to improve their skills to "Develop and Produce" Games.

[B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t]

Both ideas are just bad and hope they never get added. There are many reasons why a game gets reviewed and then refunded, they have as much right to leave a review for a game just as much as those that keep it, and you can easily idle the game to leave a review so that'd be pointless.

[Bee🐝]

Nope, current system is fine. Forcing people to either review or refund is totally going to screw with review scores.

Look OP, I’m sure whichever specific game you’re trying to save from bad reviews will be just fine - if it’s getting review bombed the auto detect system will spot it and hide those reviews.

[76561199281265327]

i think the OP's ideas have merit and should be considered to stop the fraud of reviews that flood some games, including the bad or the good.

the system currently doesn't really help the players, it helps the company including trying to sell bad games to nice people with fraud reviews, ruining good games with bad reviews.

steam also uses the reviews to control advertising, they have done similar things with games they want to promote and games they want to bomb, you might think steam doesn't care, but when the company doesn't wanna pay steam to advertise what do you think happens.

[Sleepy Yoshi]

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i think the OP's ideas have merit and should be considered to stop the fraud of reviews that flood some games, including the bad or the good.

the system currently doesn't really help the players, it helps the company including trying to sell bad games to nice people with fraud reviews, ruining good games with bad reviews.

steam also uses the reviews to control advertising, they have done similar things with games they want to promote and games they want to bomb, you might think steam doesn't care, but when the company doesn't wanna pay steam to advertise what do you think happens.

I'm genuinely curious...you're stating that the current system helps studio's sell bad games.

Your solution to that is to get rid of reviewing games if you refund it. Do you not see how that doesn't add up? You're getting rid of one of the only tools someone who dislikes the product to the extent they no longer want it has to make that known? Who does that directly benefit? It's certainly not the customer. I'm not interested in the conspiracy theory, just this main part is absolutely mind boggling to me.

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I'm genuinely curious...you're stating that the current system helps studio's sell bad games.

Your solution to that is to get rid of reviewing games if you refund it. Do you not see how that doesn't add up? You're getting rid of one of the only tools someone who dislikes the product to the extent they no longer want it has to make that known? Who does that directly benefit? It's certainly not the customer. I'm not interested in the conspiracy theory, just this main part is absolutely mind boggling to me.

i can't even post reviews cause i won't give steam my 5 dollars, so you tell me, why are reviews bias and based only on steam making money.

[Mad Scientist]

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I'm genuinely curious...you're stating that the current system helps studio's sell bad games.

Your solution to that is to get rid of reviewing games if you refund it. Do you not see how that doesn't add up? You're getting rid of one of the only tools someone who dislikes the product to the extent they no longer want it has to make that known? Who does that directly benefit? It's certainly not the customer. I'm not interested in the conspiracy theory, just this main part is absolutely mind boggling to me.

i can't even post reviews cause i won't give steam my 5 dollars, so you tell me, why are reviews bias and based only on steam making money.

They want to ensure at the minimum, that the users are actually customers. Though I believe you would have had to do a transaction in order to utilize the forums.
Then actually having access to the game itself, is another reason why to allow a review compared to never having such access, thus disallowing it.

You should also remove the word "login" from your name, as it display-defaults to your SteamID.

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I'm genuinely curious...you're stating that the current system helps studio's sell bad games.

Your solution to that is to get rid of reviewing games if you refund it. Do you not see how that doesn't add up? You're getting rid of one of the only tools someone who dislikes the product to the extent they no longer want it has to make that known? Who does that directly benefit? It's certainly not the customer. I'm not interested in the conspiracy theory, just this main part is absolutely mind boggling to me.

i can't even post reviews cause i won't give steam my 5 dollars, so you tell me, why are reviews bias and based only on steam making money.

Why should they give you the ability to use their features without paying? They have costs and are not doing this for FREE.

Do you think those review sites are doing it for FREE too when anyone can post a review with an account? No, they have advertisements to off set those costs.

[76561199281265327]

well i bought fallout 76, then bethesda gave steam the merge with the game, i needed to make a new steam account to link and migrate my fallout 76 game, because my other steam account already had a trial verison of fallout 76, reguardless i should have a full steam account cause this game was purchased, steam just wants money has nothing to do with factual legit players.

which is the case in point, plenty of fake accounts have given steam 5 dollars, most of them likely belong to steam support valve and are internal home bot accounts steam uses to run up the sales and reviews of games where they can control the system internally.

do some research into this and you will find plenty of steam users with 1000's of games that seem to pop upon forum pages out of the blue and disrespect users, try to derail topics and so forth, thats steam employee's for you.

im just a gamer nothing special about me except i can see the crazy in the world and i don't believe it, twitter with millions of bots, facebook with over 1 billion fake accounts, steam telling us CS:GO is the best and most played game on the platform.

Take a minute an figure it out, oh yeah Fallout 76 horribly bad game nobody should play it, wrong its pretty fun im glad i bought fallout 76 ive got 100's of hours in the game and its been very enjoyable.

if you want real jacked up review go review vampire savivour its only got 150,000 positive reviews but its a god awful game that reminds me of atari, but yeah thats steams way of showing you what they really think of the hard work of gaming studios, they will promote a 8 big pixel game but tell you a top of the line grade AAA pc game is bad, red cd kit started paying for advertistment after they got review bombed for cyberpunk 2077 now steam gives them rewards, figure it out already.

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i can't even post reviews cause i won't give steam my 5 dollars, so you tell me, why are reviews bias and based only on steam making money.

Why should they give you the ability to use their features without paying? They have costs and are not doing this for FREE.

Do you think those review sites are doing it for FREE too when anyone can post a review with an account? No, they have advertisements to off set those costs.

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which is the case in point, plenty of fake accounts have given steam 5 dollars, most of them likely belong to steam support valve and are internal home bot accounts steam uses to run up the sales and reviews of games where they can control the system internally.

i suspect This is a steam owned account

[B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t]

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And that's what's called "your own opinion" FO76 is a garbage game and you like it, and VS is a great game that you don't like, we all have different opinions...

CDPR deserved what they got and they know they deserved it, but reviews have changed over time because they started fixing the game.

And is there a reason to spam some of my profile here?

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And that's what's called "your own opinion" FO76 is a garbage game and you like it, and VS is a great game that you don't like, we all have different opinions...

And is there a reason to spam some of my profile here?

just showing everyone exactly what i just posted that some over hyped account with 1000's of games suddenly shows up trying to agro a converstaion, that its not a typical steam user, its someone who have way to many games, way to many groups, almost 10,000 screen shots and 530 reviews, you either put alot of time in, way to much for a casual player, or this is your job

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tem internally.

do some research into this and you will find plenty of steam users with 1000's of games that seem to pop upon forum pages out of the blue and disrespect users, try to derail topics and so forth, thats steam employee's for you.

also the fact you have, "Steam Rep" in your profile doesn't help your cause

[Mad Scientist]

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reguardless i should have a full steam account cause this game was purchased, steam just wants money has nothing to do with factual legit players.

If it wasn't purchased on Steam, it doesn't count. Just like in many stores; you do not get those stores benefits when buying from elsewhere, that is very common.

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which is the case in point, plenty of fake accounts have given steam 5 dollars, most of them likely belong to steam support valve and are internal home bot accounts steam uses to run up the sales and reviews of games where they can control the system internally.

This isn't Disney, they don't do that here. They just show the numbers as they are. No fiddling with things, no exclusives, no bribery. There's no need for such conspiracy nonsense here.

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do some research into this and you will find plenty of steam users with 1000's of games that seem to pop upon forum pages out of the blue and disrespect users, try to derail topics and so forth, thats steam employee's for you.

Sounds like pure exaggeration to me. Those with thousands are likely very wealthy, usually those with extreme counts are oil princes. People that work for Valve have very little free time, and likely still have to buy their own games like everyone else. More games does not equate to valve employee. It's also well known they do not respond to people on the forums.

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twitter with millions of bots, facebook with over 1 billion fake accounts, steam telling us CS:GO is the best and most played game on the platform.

CS has been popular since it came out. It has gone through many versions of the same game; CS, CS:CZ, CS:S, CS:GO. F2P games are often - especially for FPS - fairly popular especially in well-established titles. Having tournaments helps with some of the popularity as well.

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if you want real jacked up review go review vampire savivour its only got 150,000 positive reviews but its a god awful game that reminds me of atari, but yeah thats steams way of showing you what they really think of the hard work of gaming studios, they will promote a 8 big pixel game but tell you a top of the line grade AAA pc game is bad, red cd kit started paying for advertistment after they got review bombed for cyberpunk 2077 now steam gives them rewards, figure it out already.

People like what they want and get reviews based upon being good or bad. It doesn't need to be AAA to sell well and have high reviews. Even C&C was remastered, which has a 91% of all reviews positive, that still includes the pixel graphics which can be switched to 4K with the hit of a single button.

What you don't like has no relevance to being successful or not, the crowd/pure numbers determines that.

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also the fact you have, "Steam Rep" in your profile doesn't help your cause

LOL, what? SteamREP has nothing to do with any of this. Sounds like you are grasping at straws.

[76561199281265327]

The OP is correct in sighting the negative review bombs, but as stated the positive review endorsements also don't add up, do some real research into it, there is a reason why the accounts trying to defend current status of reviews are big spenders.

i think also think oil princes have way more to do then care about steam.