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this is against the "Data Protection and Privacy Legislation Worldwide" here
https://unctad.org/page/data-protection-and-privacy-legislation-worldwide
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asking for people to provide their ID card details, drivers license information, Passport Information......etc
is illegal.
No it is not .. be more critical where you get your info from !
You are welcome to ask for ID. He/She is welcome to provide it or not. You are welcome not to give him/her access to your servers & services if he/she does not want to give you the id you demand to play on your servers.
Activision and other company´s that want to protect themself better use this kind of information to better protect their customers and their accounts at the same time !
Is it legal for businesses to ask for ID?
Yes, it is absolutely legal. However, card & id networks have rules that stores must abide by when it comes to dealing with verification.
These rules vary depending on whether or not a signature appears on the back of the cards.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/5239403117936538075/
and everyone completely disagrees with him.
and even reported him as well.
the thread ended up being locked by the moderator.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/1734336452591525879/
ended up being locked by the moderator too.
Might be because people dont know better .. it is not illegal to demand id as a company !
Not even as a private person is it illegal, but the person can refuse you access to his party or other area he have rented if you dont !
You are allso random id checked when you want to go to a disco or similar in towns to make sure everyone is over 18 years old !
If you refuse to show it, they wont let you inside !
If you have common sense or a brain none of this is needed.
that is why i reported this thread.
No need to be rude sir !
I do have a brain and a common sense and over the last 10 years on steam!
I see it turned into a madhouse where people dont care, are beasts against each other and some rather want to figurer out to make a cheat in their games than to play them as intended !
I think it is about time Valve, put an end to that bad behavior here on steam by demanding personal id !
We have enough security on Steam already that it's just bloat now and we don't need more for an even more false sense of security that actually makes things worse as it already is that is why so many people lose their items and accounts because they think they are already protected and fail to use the most common sense practices when it comes to internet security.
Perhaps if you actually gave better examples and wrote out why you think they would help with your bullet points we could have a better discussion on the matter.
From where I sit I know that these don't work that well from people that actually live in some countries that have these already and can get around them, sure it can be a deterrent for most but it's not a trade-off I am willing to make.
I allready made 8 main reasons, i dont think i would need more !
oh yeah the 9 reason would be avoid Ai´s on steam and make sure that it is a real human behind the account !
You were already told why these would not work long ago
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/1631916887508156841/
And the reasons why they would not work then are still the same as what they are now.
And you could have easily just used the search feature and read all the reasons why this won't work because its been posted many times before, in fact I have a long copy and paste fore it...
Copy and paste for every time a "I have a great idea to stop cheating" and the "DO SOMETHING" posts that always happen because people don't bother to use the search feature...
While below is mainly aimed at VAC, it can be said about any anti-cheat software.
Do you really think that they just sit there saying, "oh we have the perfect way to stop all hackers/cheaters once and for all, but we're just not going to do it cause we're lazy, ohh look at that, more money just rolled in, time to sit back doing nothing again"....
You have no idea how hard it is to stop hackers/cheater.
Blocking IPs are pointless, IPs can be changed in seconds, also if you block a single IP you could end up blocking lots of innocent people specially if the ISPs reuse IPs.
Blocking Hardware IDs is also as pointless, they can be changed and if you sell off your hardware, anyone who gets it will be banned.
Asking for some form of ID is pointless without anyway for Valve to actually Verify that ID is actually real. There is this thing called photo editing, its easily done by just about anyone. So sending pictures of the ID is pointless. There is no government databases that Valve can tap into from every single country they sell in the world because no government in their right mind would ever allow a game company access to private information.
Take the US all on its own, there are 50 different states, each with their own IDs, there is no single US ID so that would be 50 different databases Valve would need access too. Canada, same thing, each province and territory has their own Provincial ID, no actual Canadian ID. Now think about the hundreds of countries out there that are setup the same way.
There is no place that people can take their IDs to get verified because it would cost Valve a lot of money to pay those places to do that for them. You would also need a lot of places because no one is going to drive even 10+ miles every time they need to get their ID checked.
Most people do not have passports and to get one is very expensive, least it is in my country and its only good for a few years. If I'm not traveling outside of my country why do I need a passport?
Phone calls to talk to someone, pointless & expensive.
Sending someone to persons home, very expensive.
Valve has to know about the hack and has to get their hands on it.
Then they have to figure out how it does its thing.
Then they have to figure out how to detect someone using it.
Then they have to figure out how to make sure they don't get any false positives.
Then they make it go active for a few weeks before actually hitting the kill switch.
Even before hitting the waiting time, this could be a few weeks work or more.
Why do they wait a few weeks to hit the kill switch? To get as many cheaters as they can in the net so that once they turn it on, the roaches don't go screaming to people "don't turn on the hack, its been detected".
Valve is also working on an automated way to detect cheating with teaching an AI what to look for. BUT this takes a long time to do and even then its not going to be perfect. Valve needs it to be perfect, to not create false positives that ban people who didn't actually cheat.
Now, do you know how easy it is for a cheat maker to change the cheat to make it undetectable? Sometimes its as simple as changing a few lines of code and thats it. Basically a few minutes work, then compile the program, test it, and upload it somewhere.
So if you want to help Valve, stop making posts like this. Look for people spreading urls to websites with hacks and send those urls (for the hacks and hack sites) to steam support. Don't post them in public, just send it to steam support.
If the game is not VAC protected, then you have to contact the game developer/publisher via the games discussion area and ask them how to submit the stuff to them.
GPDR by Eu law xd