A Problem With The Store- Adult Themes, Porn, and Sex

[PowerZ]

Let's get this out of the way. I'm an adult and I was 30ish when I found Steam over 12 yrs ago. I'm not idealistic nor judgemental about what people play, how they play it, or what companies build.

The big "however" here is that a certain number of publishers, developers and studios are making it nearly impossible for me to get what I want out of discovering gaming. Under the current set of filters and rules, I've found it difficult to omit this content AND keep the games that I want to keep. The Witcher series is a general example.

What's more frustrating is that indie developers ignore the guidelines and tag their games in ways that seems to be intentionally subversive and taxing to Steams administration attempts. I cannot imagine how they keep up in this wild-west model.

I've been playing with my settings for over an hour, researching tags, trying to get the filters just right only to find the same pseudo-pedophile underage hentai garbage filling up my queue, New and Trending, Popular upcoming, Top Selling, and Specials.

My positive recommendation is that Steam should take a hard-line and just ban entire libraries for "mistakes". With such a penalty in place, it would be "amazing" how quickly publishers, developers and studios will label their content correctly.

Please do something about this immediately so that everyone can have what they want from Steam.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/3658515990043443846/#c3658515990056700199

[PowerZ]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce lähetti viestin:

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/3658515990043443846/#c3658515990056700199

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Not helpful at all- I've already read this and applied the value. What's more, I shouldnt have to read the lengthy thread to get what I am asking for. I'm only asking that they work on the problem, I dont expect results immediately

[cinedine]

Hamster lähetti viestin:

cSg|mc-Hotsauce lähetti viestin:

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/3658515990043443846/#c3658515990056700199

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Not helpful at all- I've already read this and applied the value. What's more, I shouldnt have to read the lengthy thread to get what I am asking for. I'm only asking that they work on the problem, I dont expect results immediately

Tags are user generate.
Developers have to disclose problematic content and failure to do so might result in termination of business relationships.

So it's already there.

[Crazy Tiger]

Hamster lähetti viestin:

What's more frustrating is that indie developers ignore the guidelines and tag their games in ways that seems to be intentionally subversive and taxing to Steams administration attempts. I cannot imagine how they keep up in this wild-west model.

They tag their games appropriately. It's users that tag games in a wrongly manner. These tags can be reported, so report the tags that you feel aren't fitting to a game.

[PowerZ]

cinedine lähetti viestin:

Hamster lähetti viestin:

Not helpful at all- I've already read this and applied the value. What's more, I shouldnt have to read the lengthy thread to get what I am asking for. I'm only asking that they work on the problem, I dont expect results immediately

Tags are user generate.
Developers have to disclose problematic content and failure to do so might result in termination of business relationships.

So it's already there.

Crazy Tiger lähetti viestin:

Hamster lähetti viestin:

What's more frustrating is that indie developers ignore the guidelines and tag their games in ways that seems to be intentionally subversive and taxing to Steams administration attempts. I cannot imagine how they keep up in this wild-west model.

They tag their games appropriately. It's users that tag games in a wrongly manner. These tags can be reported, so report the tags that you feel aren't fitting to a game.

Not arguing but would like to understand.
You're both saying that it's my fault, that I need to take time out of my day to audit, manage, and then report people who are doing this? <--- That is exactly how a marketplace disruption starts. I think the team at Steam will want to solve this. And if they dont, they should read Crossing the Chasm to understand what happens to companies who dont.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Hamster lähetti viestin:

Not arguing but would like to understand.
You're both saying that it's my fault, that I need to take time out of my day to audit, manage, and then report people who are doing this? <--- That is exactly how a marketplace disruption starts. I think the team at Steam will want to solve this. And if they dont, they should read Crossing the Chasm to understand what happens to companies who dont.

https://store.steampowered.com/tag/

[Fierman]

it is well known that tags are exploited and polluted by both developers and users. I keep getting pornographic adventure or puzzle games in my exploration queue, even though i filtered out sexual content.

now let it be clear: i don't give a rats ass about porn on steam. i just want a failsafe method to filter it for my children, and currently that system is broken.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

And the FAQ tells you how to go about reporting incorrectly used or applied tags.

[Fierman]

i just told you that the tag and recommendation system is broken too: it does not take your settings and filters in account.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Now tell us what it says on the store page on why it is being recommended to you. It shows that above the "Wishlist" button.

[Dragova]

cinedine lähetti viestin:

Hamster lähetti viestin:

Not helpful at all- I've already read this and applied the value. What's more, I shouldnt have to read the lengthy thread to get what I am asking for. I'm only asking that they work on the problem, I dont expect results immediately

Tags are user generate.
Developers have to disclose problematic content and failure to do so might result in termination of business relationships.

So it's already there.

Valve strikes me as the kind of company that lets it slip by for the sake of profit since it's always win-win for them. They shrug their shoulders and go "I didn't know it was going to turn out this way" and still they walk away with that money it takes to get the game on here. Anyone can get any game they want on here and they don't have to tell the truth at all, but if it starts becoming headline news they start taking radical actions like complete removal of the product and it somehow makes them look like heroes.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Phoobie lähetti viestin:

Valve strikes me as the kind of company that lets it slip by for the sake of profit since it's always win-win for them. They shrug their shoulders and go "I didn't know it was going to turn out this way" and still they walk away with that money it takes to get the game on here. Anyone can get any game they want on here, but if it starts becoming headline news they start taking radical actions like complete removal of the product and it somehow makes them look like heroes.

Any developer can twist the facts of their game and get it on here without raising any eyebrows.

Tell that to the "A Kiss For The Petals - Maidens of Michael" developer that lied about their ratings and Valve removed it from the store.

[Count_Dandyman]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce lähetti viestin:

Phoobie lähetti viestin:

Valve strikes me as the kind of company that lets it slip by for the sake of profit since it's always win-win for them. They shrug their shoulders and go "I didn't know it was going to turn out this way" and still they walk away with that money it takes to get the game on here. Anyone can get any game they want on here, but if it starts becoming headline news they start taking radical actions like complete removal of the product and it somehow makes them look like heroes.

Any developer can twist the facts of their game and get it on here without raising any eyebrows.

Tell that to the "A Kiss For The Petals - Maidens of Michael" developer that lied about their ratings and Valve removed it from the store.

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Or the devs of any of the multiple games that got blocked from the store for not checking the games they were translating from Japan didn't violate laws from other countries instead of just assuming legal in Japan means its fine.

[Dragova]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce lähetti viestin:

Phoobie lähetti viestin:

Valve strikes me as the kind of company that lets it slip by for the sake of profit since it's always win-win for them. They shrug their shoulders and go "I didn't know it was going to turn out this way" and still they walk away with that money it takes to get the game on here. Anyone can get any game they want on here, but if it starts becoming headline news they start taking radical actions like complete removal of the product and it somehow makes them look like heroes.

Any developer can twist the facts of their game and get it on here without raising any eyebrows.

Tell that to the "A Kiss For The Petals - Maidens of Michael" developer that lied about their ratings and Valve removed it from the store.

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After how many people complained? Valve only takes action when a lot of people say something.
I'd think a multibillion dollar corporation would be on top of things too but it doesn't work that way.

[Start_Running]

Hamster lähetti viestin:

The big "however" here is that a certain number of publishers, developers and studios are making it nearly impossible for me to get what I want out of discovering gaming. Under the current set of filters and rules, I've found it difficult to omit this content AND keep the games that I want to keep. The Witcher series is a general example.

Thems the breaks. Publishers as a rule try to highball their ratings because as the Hot coffee mod incident taught them... if you have something over the ratings you set for the game there is a cow pasture's worth of ♥♥♥♥ that'll be hitting the wind turbine.

What's more frustrating is that indie developers ignore the guidelines and tag their games in ways that seems to be intentionally subversive and taxing to Steams administration attempts. I cannot imagine how they keep up in this wild-west model.

COuld you give an example. SO far as I know the devs basically tag the games with what applies and since any number of tags can apply to any given game...

My positive recommendation is that Steam should take a hard-line and just ban entire libraries for "mistakes". With such a penalty in place, it would be "amazing" how quickly publishers, developers and studios will label their content correctly.

They already do this where a publisher has show repeatedminor or a single severe breach of their contract.