System requirements check and filter

[Adnihil]

It would be great if games in the Store and Library had like an icon or bar displaying if the game can be played on the machine being used and how well (not, minimum, recommended, maximum).
And it would also be great if you could then apply a filter to the games in the store and library to only show games that you can play (on min/medium/max settings).

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Whether or not your specs will run a game is hard to judge, since CPUs and GPUs aren't usually clearly better than each other.

[Adnihil]

Well, just an esimate would be great already, like System Requirements Lab does.

Or maybe to get more accurate minimum specs,
Steam with its huge amount of users, could get like a community thing going where users can report if they are able to play a game or not, and on what settings. Then you could see if anyone else with the same hardware as you has played it before and on what settings. There's already tons of people making videos like this on YouTube.
Should be simple enough to do, right?

What would be even better is like some kind of plugin you could download for Steam that collects data (your hardware, fps, and settings) to automatically do this. And/or an "import/export settings" feature similar to that of the Steam Controllers. Though I don't really see this happening :p

[Snapjak]

CYRI is too generic and gets it wrong a lot.

For Steam to do it, with the millions of combinations and varieties of hardware would bankrupt a medium sized country.

[Mystful]

If I remember correctly there is a Chrome extension that allows this. I don't know if it has varients for other browsers however. But it is called Enhanced Steam, and displaying if you can run a game is one of the few things it allows.

I find it nice but if you don't use Chrome... well, you're SOL it seems :x.

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Adnihil eredeti hozzászólása:

Well, just an esimate would be great already, like System Requirements Lab does.

Or maybe to get more accurate minimum specs,
Steam with its huge amount of users, could get like a community thing going where users can report if they are able to play a game or not, and on what settings. Then you could see if anyone else with the same hardware as you has played it before and on what settings. There's already tons of people making videos like this on YouTube.
Should be simple enough to do, right?

What would be even better is like some kind of plugin you could download for Steam that collects data (your hardware, fps, and settings) to automatically do this. And/or an "import/export settings" feature similar to that of the Steam Controllers. Though I don't really see this happening :p

Even System Requirments Lab is pretty dodgy, computers can't really estimate these things very well.

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Lolahamsısks

[cinedine]

How exactly do you analyse and compare these requirements:

MINIMUM:
OS: Windows 7 and above
Processor: Must have
Memory: 512 MB RAM
Storage: 20MB available space
Sound Card: It's fine too
Additional Notes: You need only one finger to play

RECOMMENDED:
Additional Notes: Five fingers is fine too

And yes, this is real:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/488280/

[Adnihil]

Snapjak eredeti hozzászólása:

CYRI is too generic and gets it wrong a lot.

For Steam to do it, with the millions of combinations and varieties of hardware would bankrupt a medium sized country.

What do you mean bankrupt a country? You must have misunderstood.
What I'm saying is a way for Steam users, people like you and me, to report (for free) what their system specs are and on what settings they got a game to run (if at all). This way you could see a game's 'System Requirements' page and see if anyone else who has the same hardware as you has tested the game before and how it went.
Yes there are a lot of combinations and varieties of hardware but there are also a lot of players. Also, from what I've seen certain GPUs and CPUs tend to come together, both in prebuilt and custom built computers (for example most gamers who build their own PC probably go for a GTX 970 and an Intel i5 4690k). Then for the CPUs with integrated graphics cards that are used in most laptops there's even less of a problem.

This is not a name eredeti hozzászólása:

If I remember correctly there is a Chrome extension that allows this. I don't know if it has varients for other browsers however. But it is called Enhanced Steam, and displaying if you can run a game is one of the few things it allows.

Cool, didn't know that, thanks!

[Start_Running]

Adnihil eredeti hozzászólása:

Well, just an esimate would be great already, like System Requirements Lab does.

SYS req Lab can do it because they aren't selling the games. There's no legal backlash if they make a mistake.

Or maybe to get more accurate minimum specs,
Steam with its huge amount of users, could get like a community thing going where users can report if they are able to play a game or not, and on what settings.

Unreliable data is unreliable. There are thousands of variation points in Hardware and software configuyrations per system. I mean I could technically cheat requirements by say Overclocking my ram and cpu yyou and SLI'ing two low end vid cards.

OP, It's not gonna happen, I suggest you use the search tool sometime. What you need to do is learn to read system spec s like every other PC gamer. They're not hard. If your numbers are lower than minimum specs, you likely won't run it. If your numbers match minimum specs you can but it will likely be slow and you will need to bump down all the quality settings.. If you're at recommended then you have the specs to run the game at the default settings which is usually medium quality

[Adnihil]

Yeah, I know how to read... My point was that it would be a hell of a lot easier if you could filter the store for games that you can run instead of having to check each one individually, or at least see if you can probably run it at the blink of an eye.

Start_Running eredeti hozzászólása:

SYS req Lab can do it because they aren't selling the games. There's no legal backlash if they make a mistake.

I don't think that's right. If this is true then wouldn't it be the same for the info provided in the System Requirements provided on the store pages?

Start_Running eredeti hozzászólása:

Unreliable data is unreliable. There are thousands of variation points in Hardware and software configuyrations per system. I mean I could technically cheat requirements by say Overclocking my ram and cpu yyou and SLI'ing two low end vid cards.

I don't understand whay you mean with cheat... Why would you lie about your hardware and settings? If you get the game to run by overclocking, then just state that you got the game to run by overclocking? This is like saying they shouldn't allow users to post reviews because they can tell lies in them.

[Start_Running]

Adnihil eredeti hozzászólása:

Yeah, I know how to read... My point was that it would be a hell of a lot easier if you could filter the store for games that you can run instead of having to check each one individually, or at least see if you can probably run it at the blink of an eye.

Start_Running eredeti hozzászólása:

SYS req Lab can do it because they aren't selling the games. There's no legal backlash if they make a mistake.

I don't think that's right. If this is true then wouldn't it be the same for the info provided in the System Requirements provided on the store pages?

Nope, The systrem requirements are there by law and are for the most part what the game has been certified and tested by the developers to run on.

Start_Running eredeti hozzászólása:

Unreliable data is unreliable. There are thousands of variation points in Hardware and software configuyrations per system. I mean I could technically cheat requirements by say Overclocking my ram and cpu yyou and SLI'ing two low end vid cards.

I don't understand whay you mean with cheat... Why would you lie about your hardware and settings? If you get the game to run by overclocking, then just state that you got the game to run by overclocking? This is like saying they shouldn't allow users to post reviews because they can tell lies in them.

You are missing the point. An overclocked CPU is technically below the specs. Overclocking is something that pretty much voids the warranty on the cpu and the Motherboard.. That you can run it that way is good but it can give others false impressions since not all rigs can be overclocked to the same degree and even then that doesn't tell how many other changes were required to make the Overclocking work.

Look, you're a nice guy. You're right, it would be easier. But sadly, due to the nature of PC's and the software amd the users that operate them there are two many variables. There can be gulfs in performance differences based just on the type of user operating the machine. Anyone who operates a machine for a while learns the quirks of that machine, and where they can cheat the specs.

In essence, for the majority of gamers, ythe posted system requirements are enough. If you can't be bothered to read them then PC gaming is not for you. Just saying. if you can't be bothered to lace up your shoes, running is not for you,. If you can't be bothered to read the specs, PC gaming is not for you. Get a console.

[Nebroxah]

I hate to necro this after so long, but this would be a really useful tool. I'm in the boat of having a PC that can handle the vast majority of modern games on max settings, and a laptop that sounds like it's about to achieve liftoff when I run anything more intensive than Diablo II.

I'm not saying we as gamers shouldn't know how to read the specs, that's blatantly obvious. I'm saying that if I want to purchase a new game from the Steam store, I should be able to filter by the basic requirements:

OS
Processor Speed
RAM
Memory
Video Card RAM

I'm not getting into the discussion of overclocking or "I know my PC can handle it." I just don't want to sift through every game that sounds cool before finding the small handful that can run on my toaster.

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Zero Drop Gaming eredeti hozzászólása:

I hate to necro this after so long, but this would be a really useful tool. I'm in the boat of having a PC that can handle the vast majority of modern games on max settings, and a laptop that sounds like it's about to achieve liftoff when I run anything more intensive than Diablo II.

I'm not saying we as gamers shouldn't know how to read the specs, that's blatantly obvious. I'm saying that if I want to purchase a new game from the Steam store, I should be able to filter by the basic requirements:

OS
Processor Speed
RAM
Memory
Video Card RAM

I'm not getting into the discussion of overclocking or "I know my PC can handle it." I just don't want to sift through every game that sounds cool before finding the small handful that can run on my toaster.

please use the search bar and you will see why its not a good idea

especially because such system spec estimation are never 100 percent accurate and could make Valve legally liable

[Start_Running]

And you would still have to sift. because you're only looking at the amount of ram on the video card. So it wouldn't differentiated between a 1gig 8800 and a 1 gig 1070.

Dude. seriously, just learn your specs and you'll know right off just from looking at things like the trailers, screenshots and videos whether or not your laptop can handle it. Hint, anything that was realeased after 2008 is not going to work.

[Adnihil]

I still believe these are good ideas and also still don't understand what you guys mean with Valve being legally liable. The store page of a game already states what the minimum system requirements are, why would being able to filter for this suddenly cause legal backlash?

It's true that filtering solely for the GPU's memory wouldn't work, but wouldn't it be possible to filter for the GPU's other specs too?

The point of this filter would be to not have to open a bazillion pages before finding a game that you can run. Knowing if you can run a game by looking at the trailers and screenshots doesn't help at all. If you have to open the page anyway you could just as easily scroll down to system requirements.