Please remove the message: "so-and-so" has been added to your friends list.

«Gғм» Kid Of The Century Aug 27, 2014 @ 7:18am

You're supposed to use Trade Offers, not adding people to trade.

Besides, there's a limit of friends one can add per day (5, IIRC).

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Morusu Aug 27, 2014 @ 8:55am

I use WH so that means they add friends.

It is more like 20 boxes or more to close each time I log into steam and do a session of trading.

Which means for me, this is around 100 boxes to close per day.

Please, it would be nice.

Last edited by Morusu; Aug 27, 2014 @ 9:13am

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Black Blade Aug 27, 2014 @ 9:20am

Originally posted by Morusu:
I use WH so that means they add friends.

It is more like 20 boxes or more to close each time I log into steam and do a session of trading.

Which means for me, this is around 100 boxes to close per day.

Please, it would be nice.

Well some what as @Kid Of The Century said over all the system is made to use Trade offers and not add friends for it, any way i like to ask when you add someone from the friend list? or somewhere else?

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Morusu Aug 27, 2014 @ 10:49am

WH adds me as a friend. I say accept. Then one of those boxes appears. I trade with WH. Trade complete. Then, I need to trade again. I hit trade on their website, WH adds me as a friend. I say accept. Then another one of those boxes appears. I trade with WH. Trade complete. Then, I need to trade again. I hit trade on their website, WH adds me as a friend. I say accept. Then another one of those boxes appears. I trade with WH. Trade complete. Then, I need to trade again. I hit trade on their website, WH adds me as a friend. I say accept. Then another one of those boxes appears. I trade with WH. Trade complete. Then, I need to trade again. I hit trade on their website, WH adds me as a friend. I say accept. Then another one of those boxes appears. I trade with WH. Trade complete. Then, I need to trade again. I hit trade on their website, WH adds me as a friend. I say accept. Then another one of those boxes appears. I trade with WH. Trade complete. Then, I need to trade again. I hit trade on their website, WH adds me as a friend. I say accept. Then another one of those boxes appears. I trade with WH. Trade complete. Then, I need to trade again. I hit trade on their website, WH adds me as a friend. I say accept. Then another one of those boxes appears. I trade with WH. Trade complete. Then, I need to trade again. I hit trade on their website, WH adds me as a friend. I say accept. Then another one of those boxes appears. I trade with WH. Trade complete. Then, I need to trade again. I hit trade on their website, WH adds me as a friend. I say accept. Then another one of those boxes appears. I trade with WH. Trade complete. Then, I need to trade again. I hit trade on their website, WH adds me as a friend. I say accept. Then another one of those boxes appears. I trade with WH. Trade complete.

Then I look at my task bar and see nothing but those boxes which say: "so-and-so has been added to your friends list." Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close. Click to close.Click to close. Click to close.

I log off. All my newly acquired friends remove me because we are done trading. Hours later I'm back on and I need to trade....

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Black Blade Aug 27, 2014 @ 1:22pm

What is WH?

Any way i get the point, and understand it, well i think may be nice if they maybe add a timer on it so if you do not decide to close it after, 20-30 seconds it will close it self, will do the job no?

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Morusu Aug 27, 2014 @ 2:55pm

WH is tf2wh.com, and it's pretty awesome.

Thank you for understanding!

Your solution would certainly work and I would love to see it implemented.

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«Gғм» Kid Of The Century Aug 28, 2014 @ 1:48am

Originally posted by Black Blade (card rain):
Any way i get the point, and understand it, well i think may be nice if they maybe add a timer on it so if you do not decide to close it after, 20-30 seconds it will close it self, will do the job no?

Nope, that's solving the wrong problem. You're bending a feature to do something is already covered by another.

You add a friend because, well, it's a friend with whom you're supposed to play and share stuff, not trade and forget. For that there are Trade Offers which work pretty well. See Scrap.tf.

The problem is on TFWareHouse, they need to upgrade their trading bots.

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Black Blade Aug 28, 2014 @ 2:06am

Originally posted by «Gғм» Kid Of The Century:
Nope, that's solving the wrong problem. You're bending a feature to do something is already covered by another.

You add a friend because, well, it's a friend with whom you're supposed to play and share stuff, not trade and forget. For that there are Trade Offers which work pretty well. See Scrap.tf.

The problem is on TFWareHouse, they need to upgrade their trading bots.

True, that is why the idea i give is not something that will stop the message from showing, but will make it less a Problem for these and i do think more users.

Over all i think a message like these dose not need to open in its own window on any case, i mean you some what need to know when you add someone no?

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«Gғм» Kid Of The Century Aug 28, 2014 @ 6:43am

Originally posted by Black Blade (card rain):
True, that is why the idea i give is not something that will stop the message from showing, but will make it less a Problem for these and i do think more users.

Over all i think a message like these dose not need to open in its own window on any case, i mean you some what need to know when you add someone no?

The point still stands: Valve will waste time and resources to make a thing that has no reason to existin the first place.
Will automatically closing that window benefit the majority of users? No it will not except for those traders like OP that still insist to add people (bots) as friends to trade when there's already a perfectly viable feature.

Second, adding friends just for trading is also a resource consuming task, because you're asking the system to make a bunch of stuff (activity feed, status updates, etc.) to connect with your new friend - which you'll scrap soon after. Trade offers are way less consuming than the old "add 4 trade"; friend lists will no longer bloat due to bunches of one-time traders.

Third, that window might be more important as you think: sadly nowadays Steam is infested with spambots. If something will ever find a way to add you as a friend, that pop-up could be the only trace you have on your desktop (as I highly doubt anyone already take a look at their activity wall).

Seriously, better pester TFWH devs to improve their system, Scrap.tf works already like a charm.

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Black Blade Aug 28, 2014 @ 9:52am

Originally posted by «Gғм» Kid Of The Century:
The point still stands: Valve will waste time and resources to make a thing that has no reason to existin the first place.
Will automatically closing that window benefit the majority of users? No it will not except for those traders like OP that still insist to add people (bots) as friends to trade when there's already a perfectly viable feature.

Second, adding friends just for trading is also a resource consuming task, because you're asking the system to make a bunch of stuff (activity feed, status updates, etc.) to connect with your new friend - which you'll scrap soon after. Trade offers are way less consuming than the old "add 4 trade"; friend lists will no longer bloat due to bunches of one-time traders.

Third, that window might be more important as you think: sadly nowadays Steam is infested with spambots. If something will ever find a way to add you as a friend, that pop-up could be the only trace you have on your desktop (as I highly doubt anyone already take a look at their activity wall).

Seriously, better pester TFWH devs to improve their system, Scrap.tf works already like a charm.

But is there really a point for that to stay? if someone dose it its most likely not to show that message any how, and some may forget abut it and just have windows they do not want hanging around
I do not really think that message is so needed if the add work, if it had a error i agree it needs to stay

Now in the long view i do not see it as a problem for any user, i do agree its not like something that need to be soon, there feathers much more needed out there, but is it a bad thing to have, or dose it harm any side? i do not think so
Do it benefit some amount of users, i do think so\

So i do think its a good idea
And what abut someone that wants to add all his group friends? or all the guys from the game he just play, is that message really that needed to be seen that we really have to go and click on that Ok?

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Morusu Aug 28, 2014 @ 8:15pm

Originally posted by «Gғм» Kid Of The Century:

Seriously, better pester TFWH devs to improve their system, Scrap.tf works already like a charm.

...already a perfectly viable feature.

Scrap.tf leaves behind the same messages so I don't know what you mean by that.

....just to be clear, I am not choosing to add these bots as friends; there are no options to use trade offers. Also, they add me.

I appreciate the fact that Black Blade took the energy to comprehend my issue and provide a reasonable solution. Thank you.

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«Gғм» Kid Of The Century Aug 28, 2014 @ 11:40pm

Originally posted by Morusu:
Scrap.tf leaves behind the same messages so I don't know what you mean by that.

....just to be clear, I am not choosing to add these bots as friends; there are no options to use trade offers. Also, they add me.

I appreciate the fact that Black Blade took the energy to comprehend my issue and provide a reasonable solution. Thank you.

Scrap.tf no longer requires to add the bot as a friend once it's your turn. It now sends you a trade request with the items you selected.

Nice, fast, easy and doesn't require the "add/remove" nonsense. Try it and see for yourself.

Again, the problem you're raising isn't even about Steam, it's about TFWH and the fact that they still use trading wrong. And both of you expect Valve to change a feature to do something that isn't intended to do in the first place - take the energy to read what I wrote about system resources some posts above.

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Black Blade Aug 29, 2014 @ 7:14am

Originally posted by «Gғм» Kid Of The Century:
Scrap.tf no longer requires to add the bot as a friend once it's your turn. It now sends you a trade request with the items you selected.

Nice, fast, easy and doesn't require the "add/remove" nonsense. Try it and see for yourself.

Again, the problem you're raising isn't even about Steam, it's about TFWH and the fact that they still use trading wrong. And both of you expect Valve to change a feature to do something that isn't intended to do in the first place - take the energy to read what I wrote about system resources some posts above.

I read it, and like i did replay to that, its not something that maybe need to be added that much right now, its not a high priority of an idea, but its something that will not that over all that much time, and is not giving much harm from it

Also as before the problem here is not abut adding Bots or too many friends, its abut a window message that just tell you, someone was added to your friend list
Is that a window that really has to stay? well these show someone has a problem with that window and will like it to not show or go away, and i offer one idea on how to do it, also his idea it self may be good

These has over all nothing to do with with site his using to trade, that is just the reason for these case, but dose that mean only if you use that site you will like that window to go away? or is there more reasons and someone else may like that as well?

You keep going on the using the wrong site, but over all its not that site that lifts that window up its Steam
If i play a game of 30 users, or maybe even more had great time and want to add them all, do you think i really want to see that window all the time and need to close it all 1 by 1? my guess more people will like something like these, its an idea, it has no real harm in its way
And has NOTING to do with what site you use

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«Gғм» Kid Of The Century Aug 29, 2014 @ 9:27am

Fact is, adding 30 genuine friends at once is something that can occur probably once or twice in a lifetime (Steam-wise), so having to deal with 30 popups spread throughout the day isn't a problem.

The problem arises when someone start adding and removing friends very often, because they're not friends but trading bots. By removing that window you're making that wrong behavior easier.

As an example, even if a bit of a stretch, think of it like allowing VAC banned users to repurchase the banned game on their account: technically speaking isn't much different from making another account and repurchase the game, but that would mean removing an additional deterrent, making easier to pursue that bad habit. The inconvenience to log in and log out to circumvent a ban is similar to that window.

A few window here and there are not a problem, but they are if you use the "add friend" feature incorrectly.

If Trade Offers didn't exist, I too agree that window would be way more annoying.

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Morusu Aug 29, 2014 @ 4:30pm

WH is not the only website. Also if you don't choose an item, scrap has the same procedure.

Some people may play tf2 with the idea of seeking friends. I would imagine after such a session they would have similar results.

Here's my idea:
One window to record those messages. One click to close them all.

This would mean the former "security" of having those windows is preserved and it would completely solve this issue.

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