Shorten the time to give cards

[Pierce Dalton]

After beating Crimson Metal (took me around 4 hours), I've noticed I only got 2 cards from it. There's no multiplayer or difficulty level in this game so replaying it is pretty much pointless ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I know this stuff is random, but I'm quite sure Valve could do something about it... if they wanted so, of course.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Publicado originalmente por Pierce Dalton:

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

Yep, as stated cards are an incentive for people to play. Valve's policy is to NOT dictate terms to the developers aka their customers whenever possible. Each developer is able to decide for themselves the timeline that best suits them.

Valve's policy is to make money, encouraging people to pay for the lacking cards. IIRC the devs also get their share from them so it makes sense that some of them set extraordinary long times for the drops.

Some features like Trading Cards can be set up entirely in the Steamworks portal, while others will need to be implemented in your product. See the Steamworks API Reference or Steamworks Web API Reference for more technical information.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features

So, do you just like totally ignoring correct answers or what?

Developers control trading cards for their games. Valve does not.

[Pierce Dalton]

Publicado originalmente por Judgmental Amaterasu:

Publicado originalmente por Pierce Dalton:

Of course they can, it's their business, their house, their rules. Please stop trolling if you have nothing to add.

Valve historically is as hands off as possible. They don't want to be a stick for entitled users to swing around willy nilly.

Oh, yes... they're so hands off that they don't even play the games they put on the store, that's correct. Who is being entitled, me? For not wanting to idle a game just to get cards? That's what you call being entitled?

[Pierce Dalton]

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Publicado originalmente por Pierce Dalton:

Valve's policy is to make money, encouraging people to pay for the lacking cards. IIRC the devs also get their share from them so it makes sense that some of them set extraordinary long times for the drops.

Some features like Trading Cards can be set up entirely in the Steamworks portal, while others will need to be implemented in your product. See the Steamworks API Reference or Steamworks Web API Reference for more technical information.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features

So, do you just like totally ignoring correct answers or what?

Developers control trading cards for their games. Valve does not.

I mean... yeah, that's why I'm making this suggestion, you know?

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Run the game, go watch a movie.

[Gwarsbane]

If I remember right, when cards first came out, they were once every 2 hours. Then people complained, because of games that only took an hour or 2 to play, so then they turned it over to the developers to set their own times for the card drops.

Valve is not going to go back to telling developers how long to set things for. They are also not going to tell individual developers what they should set it for their own game.

If you want changes, you will have to ask the developers in the games discussion area. If they say no, then thats it. If they don't answer then that is more then likely your answer.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Pierce Dalton:

Publicado originalmente por KittenGrindr:

That wouldn't change anything though. It would also be no different than you just asking them to change it.

How come it wouldn't change anything? If Valve wanted so, they could set it to 1 hour = 1 card for all games, that looks pretty reasonable to me.

I'm not gonna suggest all devs to do that, it's easier to suggest that to Valve, you know.

Because Valve has taken the position that Devs are in control of their game when it comes to extras like cards. It would actually be more harmful to force cards considering it would add extra work to release on the store.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Publicado originalmente por Pierce Dalton:

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Some features like Trading Cards can be set up entirely in the Steamworks portal, while others will need to be implemented in your product. See the Steamworks API Reference or Steamworks Web API Reference for more technical information.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features

So, do you just like totally ignoring correct answers or what?

Developers control trading cards for their games. Valve does not.

I mean... yeah, that's why I'm making this suggestion, you know?

What part of they're not going to mess with something that they give devs control over, are you not getting?

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

And

From the sticky:

I'd like to make a suggestion about a game I play.
The developer will probably not read your post here. It might be better to go to the game's dedicated hub (Right click on the game in your Steam Library > View discussions...) to reach the developers as well as people who own the game and know better about your suggestion than the general userbase.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/135507548120407092/

Since cards are a dev controlled feature..........

[Pierce Dalton]

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Publicado originalmente por Pierce Dalton:

I mean... yeah, that's why I'm making this suggestion, you know?

What part of they're not going to mess with something that they give devs control over, are you not getting?

What makes you so sure, mate? Besides, when did I say this will happen?

[Pierce Dalton]

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

And

From the sticky:

I'd like to make a suggestion about a game I play.
The developer will probably not read your post here. It might be better to go to the game's dedicated hub (Right click on the game in your Steam Library > View discussions...) to reach the developers as well as people who own the game and know better about your suggestion than the general userbase.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/135507548120407092/

Since cards are a dev controlled feature..........

Please re-read the op. I've already played the game, making a suggestion to the developer is useless. Also, re-read this:

Publicado originalmente por Pierce Dalton:

Publicado originalmente por KittenGrindr:

That wouldn't change anything though. It would also be no different than you just asking them to change it.

How come it wouldn't change anything? If Valve wanted so, they could set it to 1 hour = 1 card for all games, that looks pretty reasonable to me.

I'm not gonna suggest all devs to do that, it's easier to suggest that to Valve, you know.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

So? You thinking that talking to the dev is useless, so what makes you think posting here will do any good? When are you going to stop disagreeing just to do it?

Valve has no control over card drops for games that are not theirs.

Your argument is "Oh they can do it."

No, no they cannot and you've been given proof that they cannot and won't.

They can't do certain things. You wanting them to doesn't mean they can nor does you thinking that they can, mean they can, either.

[Pierce Dalton]

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

So? You thinking that talking to the dev is useless, so what makes you think posting here will do any good? When are you going to stop disagreeing just to do it?

Valve has no control over card drops for games that are not theirs.

Your argument is "Oh they can do it."

No, no they cannot and you've been give proof. that they cannot and won't.

They can't do certain things. You wanting them to doesn't mean they can nor does you thinking that they can, mean they can, either.

This is not a suggestion for a game, dude, if it was aimed at one game, I would have posted this in its game hub... why is it so hard to understand I've just used this game as an example?

[Brian9824]

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

So? You thinking that talking to the dev is useless, so what makes you think posting here will do any good? When are you going to stop disagreeing just to do it?

Valve has no control over card drops for games that are not theirs.

Your argument is "Oh they can do it."

No, no they cannot and you've been given proof that they cannot and won't.

They can't do certain things. You wanting them to doesn't mean they can nor does you thinking that they can, mean they can, either.

Yep, every game is different and the duration is going to be different. Clearly the rates should vary based on the game, hence why its up to the dev's.

I mean its like asking steam to set a standard price for all games....

[Black Blade]

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

So? You thinking that talking to the dev is useless, so what makes you think posting here will do any good? When are you going to stop disagreeing just to do it?

Valve has no control over card drops for games that are not theirs.

Your argument is "Oh they can do it."

No, no they cannot and you've been given proof that they cannot and won't.

They can't do certain things. You wanting them to doesn't mean they can nor does you thinking that they can, mean they can, either.

I think ti be more current to say they should not, or that changing it now will effect them badly for the long part
Valve very much wants to be the platform in the middle and let both sides get to agreements and so on with talking to one and the other without them having to step in

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Publicado originalmente por Pierce Dalton:

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

So? You thinking that talking to the dev is useless, so what makes you think posting here will do any good? When are you going to stop disagreeing just to do it?

Valve has no control over card drops for games that are not theirs.

Your argument is "Oh they can do it."

No, no they cannot and you've been give proof. that they cannot and won't.

They can't do certain things. You wanting them to doesn't mean they can nor does you thinking that they can, mean they can, either.

This is not a suggestion for a game, dude, if it was aimed at one game, I would have posted this in its game hub... why is it so hard to understand I've just used this game as an example?

Why is it so hard for you to understand that it IS a about a game. Thousands of them to be exact. This is how off-the-wall your suggestion is:

https://store.steampowered.com/search/?category2=29

Every game on Steam that has cards.

You want Valve to go to every single dev and say "Hey, shorten card drop time"

...and don't say, "That's why I made this thread." Nope, because as you can read above, the devs probably aren't going to read these threads.