Greggy27 9/ago./2022 às 22:57
A new Steam Store for Mobile phones gaming market
I have a suggestion for Steam in whole... why Steam not make a Steam app or online hub for Mobile Games and mobile gaming just like you have for Desktop computers and rest?

Steam is the best online store from my experience and I like it very much but 'Mobile gaming' rising more and more every day!

So that is my suggestion! Ofc those mobile games need to be checked on some gaming standards to not be a bloat software filled with some scams options.

Now big PC Desktop gaming studios making their mobile games, they should be legit publishers of mobile games, I guess. So you can make Steam platform just of serious mobile games not fake ones where gamers are on the last place.

All is about evolving of gaming in the world. Easter Asia have a biggest numbers of mobile gamers! So that need to be consider.

With all best... wish you a great day! :)

Branislav J.
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nullable 10/ago./2022 às 10:26 
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Guys... this pic is promising and "a warning" to game publishers and gaming industry: https://imgur.com/CY3Lhlo Not from me. Than from the 'rest of the world'. It's "embarrassing" how future of mobile gaming is close! And will grow as I already mentioning.

It's already here. The problem is it doesn't replace the need/want for PC's or consoles.

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Steam have great platform for PC games. I just suggest to make some section on Steam or "Steam 2" online service for mobile gaming, with selected game makers and publishers.

Valve doesn't curate PC games on their store. But Valve should launch a mobile store, pay Apple/Google 30% of the sales, on top of Valve's 20-30%. One wonders why developers would agree to that. You seem to overvalue Steam as a universal gaming brand. And also Valve needs to curate it to be the high quality utopia you want? Sounds expensive and time consuming.

If it's such a good idea why don't you do it? Why hasn't anyone else done it? There's other stores besides Steam.

This is certainly an idea where it sounds like you really like Steam and you can't accept the major impediments at the moment make it a non-starter for mobile developers and Valve. Being dominant in the PC space doesn't translate to consoles or phones, regardless of how optimistic your imagination is.

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AAA games on mobile phones (add there Fortnite and Diablo: Immortal) : https://imgur.com/a/0pH5H0F

No one is saying mobile games can't be good or anything. The existence of AAA games on mobile devices doesn't make every idea relating to mobile games reasonable. You have to deal with the reason it's a bad idea, and the obvious problems Valve would have to overcome. You can't just harp on what a great idea you think it is.

Also neither of those games are on Steam. So why not ask Epic how their lawsuit with Apple is going. Or ask BlizzardActivision when their mobile store of curated games will launch since they're already making mobile games...
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Greggy27 10/ago./2022 às 10:38 
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Guys... this pic is promising and "a warning" to game publishers and gaming industry
That picture just looks like one of those people paid to get other peoples accounts to certain levels/items/progress etc. That's not exactly a shining example of mobile popularity.
In PC games we already have same things you mentioning for mobile gaming practices.

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It's "embarrassing" how future of mobile gaming is close! And will grow as I already mentioning.
Most of the mobile gaming market is games ripping off other games with often the same engine, similar graphics, same exact order-and-come-back-later kind of progression and microtransaction reliance for progress more quickly.

I would hardly say they're "close" when lacking originality frequently.
In PC games lacking originality we have too.

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Steam have great platform for PC games. I just suggest to make some section on Steam or "Steam 2" online service for mobile gaming, with selected game makers and publishers.
They're a PC client, not mobile. Nothing is stopping a creator from porting to mobile, if they presume the game would be popular on so. Or a mobile game can port to PC, which does really nothing more for PC, whereas porting to mobile means you'd need to restrict size and performance demands.
Well bro, Valve said long time ago that they don't want to support mibile games, but now times changing and Steam should better accommodate on new situation in world gaming industry.

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If they want to make a mobile client, they can, it's just unlikely since they focus on PC gaming. The closes you'll likely get to mobile gaming from Valve is the Steam Deck to play PC games with. For mobile they already have a store for each Operating System that's popular; android and ios.
I didn't found Android OS games store, on this Steam hub on my desktop PC as I'm writing now. My point is to games getting played on phones cause some of the people have only mobile phone as digital device! That's some of the reason why on the planet we have more mobile phone users/gamers than on rest digital devices like PCs, Consoles, VRs etc.
Black Blade 10/ago./2022 às 11:05 
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Guys... this pic is promising and "a warning" to game publishers and gaming industry: https://imgur.com/CY3Lhlo Not from me. Than from the 'rest of the world'. It's "embarrassing" how future of mobile gaming is close! And will grow as I already mentioning.

Steam have great platform for PC games. I just suggest to make some section on Steam or "Steam 2" online service for mobile gaming, with selected game makers and publishers.

AAA games on mobile phones (add there Fortnite and Diablo: Immortal) : https://imgur.com/a/0pH5H0F
Ok, sorry, but what is that first photo? I mean it looks like his playing some WoW or something of that sort, but it seems like all the devices are playing the same game?
Nothing there seems mixed, it seems more like they're playing some mobile game on a bunch of devices
The top device looks like a tablet; nothing on there tells me anything like what you say on a friend setup it seems more like grinding on a few accounts?

Anyway, Mobile may be growing, but it still has a bunch of issues to pass one of them is the controls, lots of games these days use controls that are basically controllers control using touch, that at least for me, never found them as a good experience, and that is beside the point of you covering your view with your fingers while you play that dose does not seem like the best thing for fast passed games or even horror.

AAA mostly port old games (that are almost not really selling on PC anymore) or games with low specs overall; it's rare if at all, to see a new game coming out on mobile and PC in the same time or same year, even
Even more, Sanders is 7$ on the play store, I guess they don't think the mobile market will pay much for a game, and it's just a way to get money on old stuff that doesn't sell anymore.

Besides Steam has enough to deal with as is, without trying to make more ways more systems, and more markets from what they got
They got games to make
They got games to update
Deck to update
VR to improve
Paid Moderators to educate
And most likely more projects we don't know about being worked under the hood
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 10/ago./2022 às 12:09 
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Guys... this pic is promising and "a warning" to game publishers and gaming industry: https://imgur.com/CY3Lhlo Not from me. Than from the 'rest of the world'. It's "embarrassing" how future of mobile gaming is close! And will grow as I already mentioning.

Steam have great platform for PC games. I just suggest to make some section on Steam or "Steam 2" online service for mobile gaming, with selected game makers and publishers.

AAA games on mobile phones (add there Fortnite and Diablo: Immortal) : https://imgur.com/a/0pH5H0F
And what I said before still applies, you can choose to ignore the major things that night & day, but drinking koolaid isn't gonna fix anything. Mobile is not able to compete with PC in the graphics area as you think right now, as just too huge of a gap in terms of performance.
Mad Scientist 10/ago./2022 às 12:17 
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PC games we already have same things you mentioning for mobile gaming practices.
Yes, as I said, you can port from one to the other freely. Though in some cases, it's not cheap.
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In PC games lacking originality we have too.
Except there's far more original material and more capabilities on PC than mobile.

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Valve said long time ago that they don't want to support mibile games, but now times changing and Steam should better accommodate on new situation in world gaming industry.
If they don't want to support it, that is their choice. What's popular in one area, presumed by a screen of a person just paid to play games for others, doesn't really equate to needing to adopt android/ios based clients, when such stores already exist. They don't need to start making or hosting mobile, xbox/playstation games etc. They've made it clear they're a PC gaming store.

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I didn't found Android OS games store, on this Steam hub on my desktop PC as I'm writing now.
Google play is for android... as is any other android based store.

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My point is to games getting played on phones cause some of the people have only mobile phone as digital device!
Not really Valves concern or priority, though. They're a PC store, they sell PC games.

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That's some of the reason why on the planet we have more mobile phone users/gamers than on rest digital devices like PCs, Consoles, VRs etc.
More phones existing does not equate to playing games on such or popularity of such. For many, 'mobile gaming' is a time burner for when you're not where your PC is, which is usually in time limited scenarios as well.

There's really no reason for a PC store to suddenly add a mobile market that already clearly has their own stores that handle the mobile operating systems.
nullable 10/ago./2022 às 12:22 
Forever is a long time, if mobile games are the future, there's plenty of time to get involved with them. And I think Valve is better equipped than most to decide when they should jump in, if ever.
Greggy27 10/ago./2022 às 12:58 
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Guys... this pic is promising and "a warning" to game publishers and gaming industry: https://imgur.com/CY3Lhlo Not from me. Than from the 'rest of the world'. It's "embarrassing" how future of mobile gaming is close! And will grow as I already mentioning.

Steam have great platform for PC games. I just suggest to make some section on Steam or "Steam 2" online service for mobile gaming, with selected game makers and publishers.

AAA games on mobile phones (add there Fortnite and Diablo: Immortal) : https://imgur.com/a/0pH5H0F
Ok, sorry, but what is that first photo? I mean it looks like his playing some WoW or something of that sort, but it seems like all the devices are playing the same game?
Nothing there seems mixed, it seems more like they're playing some mobile game on a bunch of devices
The top device looks like a tablet; nothing on there tells me anything like what you say on a friend setup it seems more like grinding on a few accounts?
She's 70 age granny from Hong Kong she not farming accounts or cheat. She just playing some Chinese MMO game with all those devices connected on 1 or 2 games or maybe 3 at time. I don't know but shes an honest and fair player and she cannot afford to have a PC in her small flat where she live. Also I know that East Asian players some of them are very poor and only digital device they have is a mobile phone.Count that "1 phone" cases in millions of population. They will not buy Steam Deck. They will buy a necessary phone and game on that. Luckily my online friend, she, managed a few mobile devices now, somehow. I'm not inspect much. I try to stay polite with her and that's it.

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Anyway, Mobile may be growing, but it still has a bunch of issues to pass one of them is the controls, lots of games these days use controls that are basically controllers control using touch, that at least for me, never found them as a good experience, and that is beside the point of you covering your view with your fingers while you play that dose does not seem like the best thing for fast passed games or even horror.
Agree! I don't like "fingers on my screen" either but those poor mobile gamers don't have so much choice! They playing games tapping with fingers.

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AAA mostly port old games (that are almost not really selling on PC anymore) or games with low specs overall; it's rare if at all, to see a new game coming out on mobile and PC in the same time or same year, even
Even more, Sanders is 7$ on the play store, I guess they don't think the mobile market will pay much for a game, and it's just a way to get money on old stuff that doesn't sell anymore.
Not quite agree with you. Those "AAA games for mobile" I'v posted on my pic of my google search, is just a beginning! Things will roll-out more and more. Big AAA players, publishers, turning to mobile gaming market.

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Besides Steam has enough to deal with as is, without trying to make more ways more systems, and more markets from what they got
They got games to make
They got games to update
Deck to update
VR to improve
Paid Moderators to educate
And most likely more projects we don't know about being worked under the hood
I believe that Valve can make something for mobile phone gaming market, I'm sure. That's why I'm posting all this.

To picture situation of mobile user as a gamer, in poor countries or in low money income people cases... that gamer have just one phone, nobody told him how to play or to expand his gaming experience. He just turn on his phone and play his favorite game. Nothing more. But from those gamers some gaming publishers earning money and we here in higher standard countries, reading statistics on online websites how that Asian Mobile Gaming Market generate big earnings, cause everyone something buying (more or lesser) or just "making the number" in those mobile games.

1st pic I've posted, to people see, telling us how large can be mobile market from one 'mobile phone gamer'. Sooner or later everything will be small as a phone and will fit in a pocket or bag. When you come home you will put that phone thing in the dock connected with keyboard and mouse and monitor, and you'll start using it as a "PC".

Some people don't care for graphics, but they have some "blocky graphics" game and they paying some money there. They don't care. They don't know nothing about you and me and any advanced gamer, they never heard. That's that "poor gamer" persona. They are millions in Asia and in South America poor countries.
Crazy Tiger 10/ago./2022 às 13:03 
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believe that Valve can make something for mobile phone gaming market, I'm sure. That's why I'm posting all this.
And you're not the first, nor the last to do so. That, however, still doesn't mean it would be interesting for Valve to actually do it.

Valve knows that mobile gaming is an interesting market. That's why they came with the Steam Deck. A mobile device that plays your PC games. Valve also is quite invested in Proton and making gaming on Linux better.

You should take into consideration that it's very possible that the actual mobile gaming market isn't interesting to them. And that companies can have different interests and goals from part of the userbase. That could change, of course, but personally I doubt that it will when it comes to this.
Greggy27 10/ago./2022 às 13:17 
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My point is to games getting played on phones cause some of the people have only mobile phone as digital device!
Not really Valves concern or priority, though. They're a PC store, they sell PC games.
Yes but that may change if they decide!

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That's some of the reason why on the planet we have more mobile phone users/gamers than on rest digital devices like PCs, Consoles, VRs etc.
More phones existing does not equate to playing games on such or popularity of such. For many, 'mobile gaming' is a time burner for when you're not where your PC is, which is usually in time limited scenarios as well.
Same is with PC. Someone plays, someone less.

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There's really no reason for a PC store to suddenly add a mobile market that already clearly has their own stores that handle the mobile operating systems.
If Valve wants more money then is a reason to make 'mobile gaming store' part of their hub. If not, you're right.
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Black Blade 10/ago./2022 às 13:56 
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She's 70 age granny from Hong Kong she not farming accounts or cheat. She just playing some Chinese MMO game with all those devices connected on 1 or 2 games or maybe 3 at time. I don't know but shes an honest and fair player and she cannot afford to have a PC in her small flat where she live. Also I know that East Asian players some of them are very poor and only digital device they have is a mobile phone.Count that "1 phone" cases in millions of population. They will not buy Steam Deck. They will buy a necessary phone and game on that. Luckily my online friend, she, managed a few mobile devices now, somehow. I'm not inspect much. I try to stay polite with her and that's it.
I never said cheating, I said grinding, earning loot and stuff on more then a single account with more then a single phone, it makes sense to do ti if the game is slow
Al to of MMOs have lots and lots of grain to add the play time, so using more than one is not a bad thing at all if its slow enough to be played in a few places

Regardless don't think it shows much, besides maybe that there they may have a market, even that again you're talking about dealing with companies that are already in the market, and pretty much offer all that Valve is offering on PC... but they all ready got it

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Agree! I don't like "fingers on my screen" either but those poor mobile gamers don't have so much choice! They playing games tapping with fingers.
Well poor mobile gamers are not a great market to get into :D: if they cant afford better they cant pay much for the games as well
But I am trying to mostly say that mobile for now still has a lot of limits on a play, and I believe is a big reason that it is yet to take off
Maybe someday... but not any time soon

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Not quite agree with you. Those "AAA games for mobile" I'v posted on my pic of my google search, is just a beginning! Things will roll-out more and more. Big AAA players, publishers, turning to mobile gaming market.
I like to point out that what you posted where all around for a very long time before they did it, there opened more markets for them self
And if its the same game as is, maybe it was not that hard for them to do so making it worth it as they had it, and did not cost too much to port

So or so I don't think that shows too much overall

If I would point out a game that will be Among Us a Mobile game that got to PC

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I believe that Valve can make something for mobile phone gaming market, I'm sure. That's why I'm posting all this.

To picture situation of mobile user as a gamer, in poor countries or in low money income people cases... that gamer have just one phone, nobody told him how to play or to expand his gaming experience. He just turn on his phone and play his favorite game. Nothing more. But from those gamers some gaming publishers earning money and we here in higher standard countries, reading statistics on online websites how that Asian Mobile Gaming Market generate big earnings, cause everyone something buying (more or lesser) or just "making the number" in those mobile games.

1st pic I've posted, to people see, telling us how large can be mobile market from one 'mobile phone gamer'. Sooner or later everything will be small as a phone and will fit in a pocket or bag. When you come home you will put that phone thing in the dock connected with keyboard and mouse and monitor, and you'll start using it as a "PC".

Some people don't care for graphics, but they have some "blocky graphics" game and they paying some money there. They don't care. They don't know nothing about you and me and any advanced gamer, they never heard. That's that "poor gamer" persona. They are millions in Asia and in South America poor countries.
Valve most likely can make it, but what can they give that Google does not?
Google has a Play Store, it comes with the phone, and it has the default power making it hard to beat
I also like to point out Amazon try (not sure if there even still doing it or not) with there amazon app store, as much as I know its not going too well, as its passing more loops and stuff to get the ability to use it, and pretty much anything they offer Google Play offer as well (With more options like Payment handling, distribution, advertising)
For Valve to get into the mobile market now they will first of all have a up stream battle to do.
And google if Valve dose start to work it out, likely take out there big guns to fight back

Also, remember most likely Steam will not be able to use Google Play to send out there app, they will need for you to go to Steam site, download an app install it as an unknown source app and give it permission to download and so on and so on
Its going to be a real pain
And over all I am not sure how much they will even really profit from it, if it works out, at least for the time being
Greggy27 10/ago./2022 às 15:24 
Yea! Nice answers.
Tito Shivan 10/ago./2022 às 15:30 
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Also, remember most likely Steam will not be able to use Google Play to send out there app, they will need for you to go to Steam site, download an app install it as an unknown source app and give it permission to download and so on and so on
Its going to be a real pain
Anyone can get a taste of how a Steam mobile enviroment would look and play.
Go install and operate with the Amazon appstore for a time.

I actually ended buying many of the apps I had from the Amazon appstore back on Google Play just to save me the hassle of having to work through a third party appstore.

And let's not forget Apple removed the Steam Link app from their appstore because you could reach the Steam Store from within.
RamiroRa 10/ago./2022 às 16:51 
I dont see the mobile market as the future of gaming that was thought, like ten years ago. The biggest problem is the technology paradox, even with today cellphones you can't play an recent AAA game. So like VR, devs have to do specific games for mobile. And the price, the primary incentive of mobile games are their free or cheap price, at least in most countries I dont see people spending $60 on a mobile game.
Moonlightfox 13/ago./2022 às 5:21 
Only lazy, greedy people develop for mobile and that attitude makes their products very expensive garbage. Until this changes, and it hasn't already for about 20 YEARS, there will be no good phone games. Just gacha trash, unity asset flips with malware, and other hyper-monetized skinner box filth.
KalGimpa 13/ago./2022 às 7:04 
it is a huge market.

if they choose to get into it, i can only hope it is a completely separate store. i do not want to wade through a crap ton mobile games or start getting ads for them on my pc
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