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Mr. Happy 10 OCT 2022 a las 17:27
DISABLE OR DISCONTINUE BIG PICTURE MODE
Seriously, what is this piece of Malware. Steam basically rips off developers, 30% cut per sale. Wow. And they can't even make the simplest piece of software? Just going into the BPM to customize or configure controller settings makes me laugh. This tool is awful, and for some reason has been awful for like... 15 years. LOL WTF? I'd plead to have this piece of ♥♥♥♥ made optional, but I know nobody at Valve cares, or likely has the drive to improve it. It's been this long, and it looks worse than my old Xbox 360 Console UI
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Start_Running 10 OCT 2022 a las 17:36 
Why are you using BPM to configure controller. Can't you just..you know..do it in the game itself?
K13Cove 10 OCT 2022 a las 17:49 
Are you on Steam Deck or something? I know it uses an altered version of BPM. Big Picture Mode is optional on desktop, and I've only ever opened it accidentally.
Mr. Smiles 10 OCT 2022 a las 17:50 
Publicado originalmente por C10 Revamp:
Are you on Steam Deck or something? I know it uses an altered version of BPM. Big Picture Mode is optional on desktop, and I've only ever opened it accidentally.
Same, the only time I use it myself is with deck or steam link.
Bee🐝 10 OCT 2022 a las 18:06 
BPM will be replaced with the SteamOS layout sometime in the near future. It was in the “leaflet” Valve printed for the Steam Deck a few weeks ago.

So, you’ll get your wish sooner rather than later.
Última edición por Bee🐝; 10 OCT 2022 a las 18:07
Zefar 10 OCT 2022 a las 22:36 
You can do it through Steam settings.

Steam -> Settings -> Controller tab

No need to start up Steam Big Picture mode.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 10 OCT 2022 a las 22:46 
So you're upset because you hate configuring controller setting?

Also you do know you don't have to use Big picture mode to edit controller settings. On top left of Steam clients, click on Steam, then settings, under tab called controller, and there you go... No big picture mode was used.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2648247358

If you want to edit controller per game, right click on game, manage, controller layout, there you go, per game edit controller layout.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2648249005
Última edición por Dr.Shadowds 🐉; 10 OCT 2022 a las 22:57
Mr. Happy 10 OCT 2022 a las 23:27 
The main reason I even touched the BPM was in an effort to fix my Xbox controller issue. I am trying to play through Elden Ring, and randomly after several hours in, the controller seems to disconnect and not respond. I've only found articles suggesting the same steps to fix this, as it seems to be an issue with either 3rd party software (not applicable to me), or several steps suggesting configuring settings within Steam Client, as well as BPM. Also read that there may be issues regarding Xbox controllers specifically, not entirely sure if I'm being honest.

The suggestions are to enable Xbox Configuration Support, Generic Gamepad Configuration Support, as well as a few game specific settings within the client. These settings are in BPM, but as Zefar points out, I can access it through the Steam Client. Doing it through the client is definitely better than going in through BPM. So thanks for that.

Either way, the main reason for my rant is the deplorable software quality that seems standard for Valve these days. The client is constantly unable to sync with the cloud. Not to mention the constant annoyance of updates, waiting times for the games to launch, or random issues with games either not closing properly, or not communicating to the service that the program has closed. I've had to force close Steam dozens of times to fix these hang ups.

I'm just tired of Steam being the reason something is not working. Since at the end of the day, the only thing I want from the service is to hold my games. The equivalence of a shelf in my house containing videogame cases.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 10 OCT 2022 a las 23:37 
Controller issue can happen for wide range of reasons, like windows update, client update that has controller support issue, or game update having controller issues, could be something else recently plug in that conflicting with controller, or another reason software end.

Since you're using a xbox controller, can give this a shot as xbox drivers is standard across most games on PC, so just disable Steam controller for said game, can do this by right clicking on game, click on properties, click on controller, now see drop box, select disable steam input, this will allow game own controller support to take control, and if issue still there then you know it's the game issue, if no other game having the isusse, but if other games having issue, then this may point to controller issue, or something and not Steam issue as you disable input to test that out.

Anyways, it good idea to check game sub forum, and even ask if anyone having issue, as someone might have answer to exact issue, and can do search in there as well in case someone already asked as we ll.


Also I do recommend enable generic gamepad configuration support, and if you use xbox one, or xbox series controller, enable xbox entended feature support as well, doesn't hurt to have multiple controller settings enable, as should cover any issue, example windows may display controller to Steam as a generic gamepad for whatever odd reason by rare chance on next boot.
Última edición por Dr.Shadowds 🐉; 10 OCT 2022 a las 23:39
No, don't get rid of Big Picture Mode, since as clunky as it is it manages to operate a more smoothly than the main Library UI these days.

Also the only non-console-command way to uninstall games under -no-browser.
Black Blade 12 OCT 2022 a las 8:07 
I think I hard that there going to update BPM soon to more what there is on the Deck

If there is an issue with the client or stuff suggest how to improve it, over trying to suggest to just remove an entire area that may have some issues, but has its uses
BPM is really good when using the TV and so on personally, controlling with controller is much easier on that then on the client using a fake mouse and so on
nullable 12 OCT 2022 a las 8:54 
@OP

I've been using Steam, and multiple controllers for well over a decade. Never needed to use BPM.

So reading some probably questionable advice online. And then coming in hot because you now have opinions about a feature you personally don't enjoy and probably don't need to use, doesn't strike me as terribly informed, especially when you demand that an optional feature you opted to use be optional. Are you familiar with the old robot saying: dOeS nOt CoMpUtE?

If it's a problem with your system, fix your system. If it's a problem with the controller fix or replace the controller. Don't use (misuse?) an optional feature and then pretend you're being forced to.
Última edición por nullable; 12 OCT 2022 a las 8:55
Kevin Carbonara 22 ENE 2023 a las 15:38 
It's astounding that Valve thinks I'm going to buy a Steam Deck when they haven't even figured out how to make big picture not a toxic POS. I have to close Steam any time I play any non-Steam game. That is malware
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 22 ENE 2023 a las 16:18 
Publicado originalmente por Kevin Carbonara:
It's astounding that Valve thinks I'm going to buy a Steam Deck when they haven't even figured out how to make big picture not a toxic POS. I have to close Steam any time I play any non-Steam game. That is malware
This isn't about Steam deck, and new BPM hasn't replace old one yet on desktop, you can launch Steam with target command to see new BPM that will be replacing it in the future, it same interface that on Steam deck currently using.

start at 1:42
https://youtu.be/uMYQEiMZcqY?t=102
rawWwRrr 22 ENE 2023 a las 17:01 
Publicado originalmente por Kevin Carbonara:
It's astounding that Valve thinks I'm going to buy a Steam Deck when they haven't even figured out how to make big picture not a toxic POS. I have to close Steam any time I play any non-Steam game. That is malware
It's astounding that people think Valve is forcing it's customers to buy a Steam Deck.... because of the PC interface....
_galaxy 22 ENE 2023 a las 17:05 
Publicado originalmente por Mr. Happy:
Seriously, what is this piece of Malware. Steam basically rips off developers, 30% cut per sale.

Steam has free multiplayer and no paid updates. This aligned with the fact they are the most feature-rich platform out of all the main ones (for both players AND developers) and the fact they have to deal with tons of game data makes them miles ahead of every single competitor when it comes to "ripping off developers".

Google play takes 30%, allows for any garbage to be there
Apple store takes 30%, doesn't allow alternatives in the ecosystem
Sony and Microsoft take 30%, paid updates & no free multiplayer & takes cut from outside sales (such as CD disks)

Steam: removes garbage (like troll games, bad games continue like all other platforms), allows games to be sold via keys (don't take cut), free updates (when games are hundreds of GB's), no paid multiplayer, commitment for your games to always be there even if they're from 10 years ago (sony and xbox still trying)


Stop with this idiotic narrative that steam rips off developers.
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