REVERT THE ENTIRE DOWNLOAD FUNCTION TO THE 2015 version

[LunaVTF.bsp]

Why? BECAUSE WHOEVER WROTE THE NEW CRAP SUCKS AT HIS JOB. the old steam could deal with even the most unstable connectiions while this new one needs fast Wifi like in South Korea. i remember downloading games with one of the crappiest routers out there AND IT WORKED. so how many times does steam ping the download servers to check if they are there? how about fixing that instead of reverting if you can. if it doesnt download just because it doesnt know that the server is literally there... then your juniors i assume implemented a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bug.

[Thermal Lance]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Gentlebot:

Publicado originalmente por Legit:

This is not only nonsense, it also has nothing to do with the topic. Why are you trying to get personal here?

It's the reality of the subject, people don't just use piracy based software for legitimate activities. That's identical to saying napster wasn't almost exclusive to piracy (it was).

It's also not personal, it's a note you shouldn't speak of certain programs while on a video game store, especially when it also has a similar rule of not talking about emulators, so of course, programs like that - are irrelevant to the discussion, as previously noted.

If you have a problem with it being not related to the subject, remember that the OP brought up the program, and Steam is not that other program.

Publicado originalmente por Legit:

Open a few cheap achievement games at the same time, unlock achievements in them and watch how steam is going to freeze... :D 64 bit needs to come.

I've had several AAA and indie games launched through Steam simultaneously for a stress test, it may be 32-Bit, but the entirety of how Steam is, 64-bit only would be as bad of a move as when apple forced 64-bit only support. There would be little to no gain whatsoever.

I do use Torrent from time to time to download large mods and free games that give the option because it is usually faster and more reliable than using the direct download offered alongside it.

Does that make me a pirate?

[[?]legit]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Gentlebot:

Publicado originalmente por Legit:

This is not only nonsense, it also has nothing to do with the topic. Why are you trying to get personal here?

It's the reality of the subject, people don't just use piracy based software for legitimate activities. That's identical to saying napster wasn't almost exclusive to piracy (it was).

It's also not personal, it's a note you shouldn't speak of certain programs while on a video game store, especially when it also has a similar rule of not talking about emulators, so of course, programs like that - are irrelevant to the discussion, as previously noted.

If you have a problem with it being not related to the subject, remember that the OP brought up the program, and Steam is not that other program.

That's ridiculous, he didn't bring up anything with utorrent, he made a brilliant comparison while you're assuming, no accusing him of piracy? He didn't even mention he is using the program, and if so it's none of your business. Keep the prejudges and hypocrisy for yourself :)

[Mad Scientist]

Publicado originalmente por Thermal Lance:

I do use Torrent from time to time to download large mods and free games that give the option because it is usually faster and more reliable than using the direct download offered alongside it.

Does that make me a pirate?

Notice the less than 1%. In that very specific instance, it falls under that minor percentage. The rest of the reason for having it however, would be under scrutiny as mod sites have very quick download speeds.

Publicado originalmente por Legit:

That's ridiculous, he didn't bring up anything with utorrent, he made a brilliant comparison while you're assuming, no accusing him of piracy? He didn't even mention he is using the program, and if so it's none of your business. Keep the prejudges and hypocrisy for yourself :)

It was needless to bring up the program since it has no relevance to the conversation or the suggestion. As for "didnt mention he is using the program", did you miss this?:

Publicado originalmente por THEssSFM:

Next Suggestion: PORT STEAM TO 64 BIT. its not a 64 bit application thus just as stable as utorrent.

Ask yourself how one would know if they didn't use it. Seems the only one trying to make it personal and drag it away from the topic further is yourself. I already mentioned they should troubleshoot & resolve issues, rather than wanting the client to work around their problems.

[Thermal Lance]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Gentlebot:

Publicado originalmente por Thermal Lance:

I do use Torrent from time to time to download large mods and free games that give the option because it is usually faster and more reliable than using the direct download offered alongside it.

Does that make me a pirate?

Notice the less than 1%. In that very specific instance, it falls under that minor percentage. The rest of the reason for having it however, would be under scrutiny as mod sites have very quick download speeds.

Publicado originalmente por Legit:

That's ridiculous, he didn't bring up anything with utorrent, he made a brilliant comparison while you're assuming, no accusing him of piracy? He didn't even mention he is using the program, and if so it's none of your business. Keep the prejudges and hypocrisy for yourself :)

It was needless to bring up the program since it has no relevance to the conversation or the suggestion. As for "didnt mention he is using the program", did you miss this?:

Publicado originalmente por THEssSFM:

Next Suggestion: PORT STEAM TO 64 BIT. its not a 64 bit application thus just as stable as utorrent.

Ask yourself how one would know if they didn't use it. Seems the only one trying to make it personal and drag it away from the topic further is yourself. I already mentioned they should troubleshoot & resolve issues, rather than wanting the client to work around their problems.

Yeah no. I'm not going to download a nearly 8gb package from moddb. XD

[Nx Machina]

@ THEssSFM

I have the same download speed on ALL PC clients so your claim that Steam is worse than 2015 is incorrect.

Secondly unless you somehow managed to time travel your account is 4+ years old meaning it was created in 2017.

[[?]legit]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Gentlebot:

Publicado originalmente por Legit:

That's ridiculous, he didn't bring up anything with utorrent, he made a brilliant comparison while you're assuming, no accusing him of piracy? He didn't even mention he is using the program, and if so it's none of your business. Keep the prejudges and hypocrisy for yourself :)

It was needless to bring up the program since it has no relevance to the conversation or the suggestion. As for "didnt mention he is using the program", did you miss this?:

Publicado originalmente por THEssSFM:

Next Suggestion: PORT STEAM TO 64 BIT. its not a 64 bit application thus just as stable as utorrent.

Ask yourself how one would know if they didn't use it. Seems the only one trying to make it personal and drag it away from the topic further is yourself. I already mentioned they should troubleshoot & resolve issues, rather than wanting the client to work around their problems.

You're probably acting clueless on purpose but I'll break it down for you anyways. He utilized a highly effective figure of speech, which puts emphasis on his original statement regarding the technical differences between 32 and 64 bit, and that had absolutely no implications to piracy or whatsoever. It doesn't even matter if his claims are true (is utorrent unstable or not?), he made a very clear comparison, which was so easy to understand that probably my 5 years old son (who doesn't even know what the heck utorrent is) would get it.

Your last line of post #3 is unnecessary, personal and pure bait. You started it.

Publicado originalmente por THEssSFM:

Next Suggestion: PORT STEAM TO 64 BIT. its not a 64 bit application thus just as stable as utorrent.

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Gentlebot:

As for the 2nd part, do you think it's wise to basically tell a store that you pirate stuff?

[Mad Scientist]

Publicado originalmente por Legit:

He utilized a highly effective figure of speech, which puts emphasis on his original statement regarding the technical differences between 32 and 64 bit

In regard to an app you must have knowledge about. So are you going to insist on the derail rather than sticking to the op toward the suggestion of troubleshooting & repairing, or this continued nonsense attempt at arguing?

[davidb11]

Legit, you do not live up to your name here.
While Mr. Gentlebot and I have some big differences in opinions on things, he is correct in this instance.

No one can ever claim utorrent is more stable without actually using it.
Whether for good or bad.

I have used Utorrent before in the past. I totally would not download a car though, as the commercial goes. :P

Seriously, there is no need to fight here.

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por Legit:

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Gentlebot:

As for the 2nd part, do you think it's wise to basically tell a store that you pirate stuff?

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Gentlebot:

The amount of people that use that for any "legitimate" reason is well below 1% and you're aware of that.

This is not only nonsense, it also has nothing to do with the topic. Why are you trying to get personal here?

Open a few cheap achievement games at the same time, unlock achievements in them and watch how steam is going to freeze... :D 64 bit needs to come.

That's not how it works at all.

As I explained 64 bit isn't anything to do with that. That's not how coding works at all.

[Crashed]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Gentlebot:

Publicado originalmente por THEssSFM:

i had a far worse connection years prior. AND IT WORKED JUST FINE. should ping the download server every 5 seconds instead every 20 minutes.

Well fix whatever problems you're having, you can re-queue downloads at any moment, but you need to fix whatever is causing your issues rather than hoping everything else will work around your problem. Start troubleshooting & fixing your problem, if something is failing or damaged you need to find out. If you're using splitters, stop using splitters before your modem or get a better quality one.

Publicado originalmente por THEssSFM:

Next Suggestion: PORT STEAM TO 64 BIT. its not a 64 bit application thus just as stable as utorrent.

It doesn't need to be 64 bit by the way it's designed and would have little to no benefit.

As for the 2nd part, do you think it's wise to basically tell a store that you pirate stuff?

And getting infected with junkware.

Publicado originalmente por THEssSFM:

As for the 2nd part, do you think it's wise to basically tell a store that you pirate stuff?

who said i pirate stuff? utorrent can be used to download other stuff. not just cracked games. [/quote]
Amazing you had to give an example.

[Crashed]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Gentlebot:

Publicado originalmente por Thermal Lance:

I do use Torrent from time to time to download large mods and free games that give the option because it is usually faster and more reliable than using the direct download offered alongside it.

Does that make me a pirate?

Notice the less than 1%. In that very specific instance, it falls under that minor percentage. The rest of the reason for having it however, would be under scrutiny as mod sites have very quick download speeds.

You mean like Nexus's paywall to download at more than 2MB/sec?

[davidb11]

Junkware? Seems safer and easier to deal with that malware!
Kind of like how popup ads were a thing and annoying back in the day.

Also, older versions of Utorrent don't have that cryptominer wildness, although you have to actually choose to install that.
Nexus's download speed isn't horrendous.
Not sure why bringing that up here works.

[Crashed]

Publicado originalmente por THEssSFM:

i use sfm a lot. i know exactly what the difference between those is. iam not talking about the color adresses. i mean the benfit of using more memory in order to run more stable

Pretty sure Steam gets more than 1GB even in Big Picture Mode. WebHelpers are in separate 64-bit processes already.