Steam profiles needs music :3

[Serkev]

I think steam social aspects are the most important feature in the platform so it would be an awesome step in the right direction to add some background sounds.

Imagine going into the profile of a random user, hearing this

YouTube™ Video: Battlefield 3: Operation Métro Loading Screen 

Views: 110,151

Same track as Noshahr Canals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-r6utBtefY

and saying "what a gamer of culture, I have to play with him!"

Since this is a gaming platform it has to be games related

[Mad Scientist]

Already been suggested, largely disliked suggestion as it could be abused with high sound annoying things which most people would do, then there's the matter of all the copyright material and steam doesn't want to deal with that.

[Zekiran]

How about no. This isn't MySpace.

For ^^ those reasons, it's just nope.

[Gwarsbane]

Better idea, use the search feature to discover that this is a REALLY bad idea and will never happen by reading all the other threads on why this will never happen.

Short version, annoying beyond all thought, copyright issue, are you going to pay the thousands of dollars a month to pay for the broadcast rights of each song you want to play?

Long version, use the search feature and go read all the other threads.

[Amir Gravity]

true

[WhiteKnight]

They can't offer such music or even if they offered people to upload their music. Their is no doubt Valve will be dealing with many dmca or whatever to not have much music played on their site. Since they don't have the license for those.

This is was also suggested before. You can search for those posts.

[Serkev]

I'm not saying any kind of music, but those that are already being sold on Steam ;)

[B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t]

No thanks, every time this is brought up. I and others don't need random music playing on pages when we can have our own music playing.

Having music play on pages is just annoying anymore and glad that it died many years ago and needs to stay dead.

[Zekiran]

Originally posted by Serkev:

I'm not saying any kind of music, but those that are already being sold on Steam ;)

It doesn't matter, since the key word there is


SOLD on steam.

If it can be bought, it is not anyone's to distribute for free even on a profile.

[Reaper]

If you ever need to feel old, posts like this are there to remind you of the people who don't know Myspace used to exist.

[Gwarsbane]

Originally posted by Serkev:

I'm not saying any kind of music, but those that are already being sold on Steam ;)

Buying it or even just getting it for free on Steam allows YOU to listen to it. It does not entitle you to play it for anyone else.

If for what ever stupid reason Valve was to allow this to happen, you would need to spend out thousands of dollars a month for just 1 song.

You know those "free" streaming sites, with all the ads... guess what... its not free, those ads pay for you to listen to those songs and those companies pay thousands of dollars a month for a single song to be played to hundreds if not thousands of people. The more popular it is, the more they have to pay.

Valve is not going to pay thousands of dollars a month just so that you can play a song on your profile. They would never make that money back. Unless they packed steam with thousands of ads on your profile. Do you want thousands of ads on your profile? I know I don't and Valve won't do that either so you will be stuck paying the bill.

Then you have the annoyance factor. I don't want to go to your profile to look up something only to be bombarded with what you think is good music. I'm more then likely already playing my own music. People hate auto playing stuff, so Valve will HAVE to put in an option to play or not and it will HAVE to be off by default. Because its off by default, the vast majority of Steam will not hear whats on your profile, meaning its pointless. I'm also only going to your profile to look up certain info, I won't be on there for long, 30 seconds to a minute at most. I'm not going to stay there for many minutes at a time so I won't be turning on that feature.

Then you have the waste of bandwidth which is again why there should be an on off feature with it being off by default. People don't want to waste their limited bandwidth on having to download something they are not going to listen to. I have the broadcast video turned off on store pages and everywhere else. I just don't want that to start streaming. Now I'm lucky and have unlimited download, but not even one does. Most people still have datacaps even in this day and age. Heck there are still some people who are stuck using 56k dial up modems and yes thats even in the US.


But you would have known all this had you used the search feature before posting.

This was a bad idea the first 100+ times it was suggested, its a bad idea now, it will be a bad idea the next 1000+ times its suggested and every single time we're going to be forced to point out just how bad of an idea it is because people just will not use the search feature first and actually think about why its such a bad idea.

[Serkev]

It could be a feature you can disable, like pretty much every website with music.
Also it could improve sales on soundtracks that already are being sold on steam since it's another reason to buy them and not just looking for it on youtube/spotify.
And if you think is a bad idea then why was 100+ times it was suggested? You should start thinking that not everybody dislike what you dislike

[Mad Scientist]

Originally posted by Serkev:

It could be a feature you can disable, like pretty much every website with music.
Also it could improve sales on soundtracks that already are being sold on steam since it's another reason to buy them and not just looking for it on youtube/spotify.
And if you think is a bad idea then why was 100+ times it was suggested? You should start thinking that not everybody dislike what you dislike

Many people think "Steam should be more like (reddit/twitter/tumblr/facebook/myspace/epic)", people thinking something is a good idea does not make it so. There are plenty of people that also think it's a fun idea to stick a piece of metal into an electrical socket which is also a bad idea. Users also have on average, little to no experience of how abused any one feature is when it comes out to the point things are often fixed/removed within 1-2 days, and when it comes down to something people will clearly abuse, it's best to not suggest it.

"like pretty much every website with music", which is like my above example. Steam is not spotify, it's not XM Radio, it's nothing like that. It's an online store, with a forum, and a very stripped down profile system. Steam is it's own thing for its own purpose, if you want music so badly you can use those services or media players on your system.

[Tito Shivan]

Originally posted by FeaR_TH3_Reap3R:

If you ever need to feel old, posts like this are there to remind you of the people who don't know Myspace used to exist.

Old enough to have seen Myspace born, rise, shine, fall down and die. And the Internet it lived on was nowhere alike the Internet we have nowadays.

Originally posted by Gwarsbane:

Buying it or even just getting it for free on Steam allows YOU to listen to it. It does not entitle you to play it for anyone else.

Pretty sure associations like RIAA are salivating at the idea of charging Steam per profile song reproduction.

[Gwarsbane]

Originally posted by Serkev:

It could be a feature you can disable, like pretty much every website with music.
Also it could improve sales on soundtracks that already are being sold on steam since it's another reason to buy them and not just looking for it on youtube/spotify.
And if you think is a bad idea then why was 100+ times it was suggested? You should start thinking that not everybody dislike what you dislike

You and the 100+ others seem to keep ignoring the money aspect of it.

You and the 100+ others keep ignoring the annoyance aspect of it.

You and the 100+ others keep ignoring the data usage aspect of it.

And no this will not improve the sale of the songs... If you think playing the songs for people would get them more sales, then Valve should have a play button on the store page for the songs that plays a clip of the songs so that people can hear them before buying.

There is absolutely no way the full songs should be played on peoples profiles, unless you want to pay the thousands of dollars for the broadcast rights. Do you want to pay the hundreds or thousands of dollars per month for the right to broadcast it on the internet? And thats money you have to pay upfront no matter how many people actually listen to it, because they go by potential and the potential is that there are at least 1 billion accounts on steam that could listen to it, unless of course they allow it to play for even those without an account on steam, well then thats gonna be even more money, thats potentially over 7 billion listeners.

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

Originally posted by Gwarsbane:

Buying it or even just getting it for free on Steam allows YOU to listen to it. It does not entitle you to play it for anyone else.

Pretty sure associations like RIAA are salivating at the idea of charging Steam per profile song reproduction.

I'm sure everyone in their office have to put on life vests every time someone brings up this topic and totally ignores the money aspect that would be required.

[Serkev]

Originally posted by Mr. Gentlebot:

There are plenty of people that also think it's a fun idea to stick a piece of metal into an electrical socket which is also a bad idea.

I don't get what that has to do with the topic

It's Steam's problem to review the legal aspects of music, not yours. If Steam wants to offer that feature they will find a way

And about the "annoyance", like I said before, it could be deactivatable (like the sound on videos in the steam store)

Also you say it will not improve sells on music but that was the same complain I heard back in the day when csgo implemented skins and everybody complained about it