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Jenshae 3/ago./2021 às 12:28
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1% Linux Gamers!
As we are the 1%:

First, please can everyone #OccupyMSchat
Secondly, Valve can you make us a badge with a penguin that is wearing a monocle and a top hat?

:captainskull:

Essentially:
Escrito originalmente por Jenshae:
Thank you for sticking with Linux Gaming through the hard times, when it was "dumb" to be gaming using Linux.
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Gwarsbane 3/ago./2021 às 13:25 
For Linux to take off in usage, it first has to be user friendly. For the most part, its not. It also has to be able to run all the programs people use on windows, which many can't.

Proton with Steam will help quite a bit with the games, but you still have the other issues mentioned.

I tried Linux a while back, I tried to like it, but it was not as user friendly as windows and at the time I was using one of the distros that people said was the most user friendly.

I'm sure things have changed in the last 5 or so years, but thinking that giving people a badge will get them to convert to linux for good... thats just wishful thinking.

If you like linux, fine, you keep using it.
logith 3/ago./2021 às 13:52 
Escrito originalmente por Gwarsbane:
For Linux to take off in usage, it first has to be user friendly. For the most part, its not. It also has to be able to run all the programs people use on windows, which many can't.

Proton with Steam will help quite a bit with the games, but you still have the other issues mentioned.

I tried Linux a while back, I tried to like it, but it was not as user friendly as windows and at the time I was using one of the distros that people said was the most user friendly.

I'm sure things have changed in the last 5 or so years, but thinking that giving people a badge will get them to convert to linux for good... thats just wishful thinking.

If you like linux, fine, you keep using it.
A badge probably won't make people want to use Linux, but it's a nice 'I was there' thing at least
Omega 3/ago./2021 às 13:59 
Escrito originalmente por logith:
Escrito originalmente por Gwarsbane:
For Linux to take off in usage, it first has to be user friendly. For the most part, its not. It also has to be able to run all the programs people use on windows, which many can't.

Proton with Steam will help quite a bit with the games, but you still have the other issues mentioned.

I tried Linux a while back, I tried to like it, but it was not as user friendly as windows and at the time I was using one of the distros that people said was the most user friendly.

I'm sure things have changed in the last 5 or so years, but thinking that giving people a badge will get them to convert to linux for good... thats just wishful thinking.

If you like linux, fine, you keep using it.
A badge probably won't make people want to use Linux, but it's a nice 'I was there' thing at least
It's indeed just a nice momento. A little something to show who was here, who was a member of the community which made Linux gaming what it is today.
Gwarsbane 3/ago./2021 às 15:32 
Escrito originalmente por logith:
A badge probably won't make people want to use Linux, but it's a nice 'I was there' thing at least

Escrito originalmente por Omega:
It's indeed just a nice momento. A little something to show who was here, who was a member of the community which made Linux gaming what it is today.

A "I was there" and something to show that people were part of the community that made linux what it is today already exists & I actually have it.

Its Tux in my TF2 inventory and you only got him if you were actually there when Valve introduced linux in steam.

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Tux

So I was literally there at the start. And no I don't feel special, it has not brought anything to my life and no I don't use linux anymore because it was such a pain in the butt. I wanted to like it, I wanted to use it, but just too many things that I liked using and needed didn't work with it.

What you want is pointless. It will not add more linux players for more than the time it takes to get the badge. You only want it to show off to other people.
Jenshae 3/ago./2021 às 15:46 
Escrito originalmente por Gwarsbane:
I tried Linux a while back, I tried to like it, but it was not as user friendly as windows and at the time I was using one of the distros that people said was the most user friendly.

I'm sure things have changed in the last 5 or so years, but ...
I had that experience with Knoppix Linux around the turn of the millenium. It has come a long way.
PopOS is having a few problems right now but until recently it was a solid recommendation for new Linux gamers as it is an out of the box solution with Nvidia drivers and Steam already installed and ready to go.

It is possible to only type your username and password between booting a Linux installation USB and running the games you want.

In the last five years that has changed?

Proton.

https://www.protondb.com/
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Grady Vuckovic 3/ago./2021 às 16:11 
Yes! I want my "1% Linux - Penguin with a Monocle" badge :D
Gwarsbane 3/ago./2021 às 16:52 
Escrito originalmente por Jenshae:
Escrito originalmente por Gwarsbane:
I tried Linux a while back, I tried to like it, but it was not as user friendly as windows and at the time I was using one of the distros that people said was the most user friendly.

I'm sure things have changed in the last 5 or so years, but ...
I had that experience with Knoppix Linux around the turn of the millenium. It has come a long way.
PopOS is having a few problems right now but until recently it was a solid recommendation for new Linux gamers as it is an out of the box solution with Nvidia drivers and Steam already installed and ready to go.

It is possible to only type your username and password between booting a Linux installation USB and running the games you want.

In the last five years that has changed?

Proton.

https://www.protondb.com/

I'm not and would never install linux just to play games. It would need to work with all the different software I run and no I'm not going to name off everything cause I use a lot of different software, some of it quite old cause I haven't find anything better.

So just because proton is around, is no reason to switch to linux to play games. Its just added overhead that will slow the games down.

There is no convincing me to try it again. Maybe once I have a second system up and running again, maybe I might put it on there in a dual boot setup to mess around with it, but I doubt even that.

Again, the "badge" you want is rather pointless and just for showing off, which is also pointless when the majority of Steam could get with virtual box and what ever other VM software people want to use.

Heck, install it on a thumb drive, start up steam, get the badge, format the thumb drive.
Jenshae 4/ago./2021 às 0:45 
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Heck, install it on a thumb drive, start up steam, get the badge, format the thumb drive.
Too late.

Logs, past tense.

Adobe Premier and Final Cut Pro are the only software packages that are tough to replace with Linux apps that I am aware of.
Psymon² 4/ago./2021 às 1:11 
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A) Logs of the time that we hit 1%.
i can't see anyone else providing them
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
expand the "OS Version" bit below the graphs
Sazzouu 4/ago./2021 às 1:20 
So to sum everything up we have exactly three solutions...

The first one is to give the badge to Linux "users" in general. So yeah fire up some VM or ask a friend whether you could log in on their Steam Deck for a second and boomyou have 100% Linux users on Steam.

The second one is make it time related. Well pick up the first solution but rather than staying logged in for a second you stay loggend in for X Seconds / Minutes / Hours / Days / Years. Could hand my RasPi over to my friends for that. And again 100% Linux users on Steam. Great.

And the third one is my absolute favourite. It is basically F'ing over everyone who had ever been using Windows and only support hardline Linux users even during the times when it was actually DUMB to support Linux for Gaming.

Seriously just lend this badge idea to the fire. There is no solution that will be either representative or not causing a huge backlash
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Gwarsbane 4/ago./2021 às 6:41 
Escrito originalmente por Jenshae:
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Heck, install it on a thumb drive, start up steam, get the badge, format the thumb drive.
Too late.

Logs, past tense.

Adobe Premier and Final Cut Pro are the only software packages that are tough to replace with Linux apps that I am aware of.

Those are the only ones for you maybe. Again I use a bunch of old software because as I said, I have found nothing new that can do what they do better. You don't know all the software I use and again I'm not going to run though them all because its many so claiming those 2 programs are the only ones that are hard to replace is rather pointless.

So I'm done here, what you want is just to show off with a badge, Valve won't make a badge just for that. And no it will not attract more linux users, not enough to make a long term difference.
Black Blade 4/ago./2021 às 7:32 
Just to point out if they give out the TF2 item they all ready done this basically, when it been the real first group to do it, and not the later guys :)

They can give something for running on Linux, but if there going to give any new items I think its better to be an in-game item and/or something of that sort, badges honestly I don't think fit to this in game the item at least means something

On any case giving a badge is not going to help people get into Linux, it just become a task to do to get a badge that no one really care for
So except if what we care for is higher number of Linux downloads because some guide says "Free badge" and everyone just temp download Linux to get it
Its a task and only to who ever care about badges

I think this idea was basically done in TF2 Tux, and there is no much to add to it now beside that
Jenshae 4/ago./2021 às 9:40 
Thank you for sticking with Linux Gaming through the hard times, when it was "dumb" to be gaming using Linux.
About47Pandas 4/ago./2021 às 11:33 
I mean-- Just wait until the Steam Deck releases.

And to be honest-- Valve is the one that is making linux a viable OS to game on-- Honestly-- if this Proton bit is worth what they are saying-- I might switch to Linux, myself.
Sazzouu 4/ago./2021 às 11:40 
Escrito originalmente por About47Pandas:
And to be honest-- Valve is the one that is making linux a viable OS to game on-- Honestly-- if this Proton bit is worth what they are saying-- I might switch to Linux, myself.

It is.
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