Be able to recommend/ not recommend a game without reviewing it.

[Χάρης]

I know I can write a short review for it, but what if I don't wanna write a review and just recommend it/ not recommend it?

[Gwarsbane]

Then your recommendation is worthless.

Do you recommend the game?
Yes. Well why? Did you have fun, did you like the colors, did you like that it only cost you 60 cents, was it because a rock flew across the sky and bust into flame....

No. Well why? Did you not have fun, did you not like the colors, did you not like that it only costs 60 cents, was it because a rock flew across the sky and bust into flame....


If you are not willing to put in even a short review, your recommendation is pretty much useless. Even a I found it fun/I found it annoying is better than nothing.

[Χάρης]

Originally posted by Gwarsbane:

Then your recommendation is worthless.

Do you recommend the game?
Yes. Well why? Did you have fun, did you like the colors, did you like that it only cost you 60 cents, was it because a rock flew across the sky and bust into flame....

No. Well why? Did you not have fun, did you not like the colors, did you not like that it only costs 60 cents, was it because a rock flew across the sky and bust into flame....


If you are not willing to put in even a short review, your recommendation is pretty much useless. Even a I found it fun/I found it annoying is better than nothing.

Let me tell you something. I am not the best at writing reviews but some of my big reviews where I tried to be as constructive as possible in order to tell people why I like/dislike a game got marked as " Funny ", though there is nothing funny in those reviews and that wasn't even my intention. Therefore, my review is still worthless.

So at the end, does it even matter why I recommend or not recommend a game? To some yes, to some not.

I don't know what you mean by short review, the shortest review I have seen is literally a dot. I don't see see how that is helpful. I assume that the person didn't know what to write.

[AustrAlien2010]

You probably need to review it, in order to review it. If you didn't played it...

[Χάρης]

Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:

You probably need to review it, in order to review it. If you didn't played it...

Didn't understand your post. This isn't about reviewing, it's about recommending.

[AustrAlien2010]

I meant, if you only recommend something, then I cannot see if you actually played it.

[Χάρης]

Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:

I meant, if you only recommend something, then I cannot see if you actually played it.

Oh, yeah you're right. I suppose they could add a minimum playtime then, just like reviews.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by Χάρης:

Originally posted by Gwarsbane:

Then your recommendation is worthless.

Do you recommend the game?
Yes. Well why? Did you have fun, did you like the colors, did you like that it only cost you 60 cents, was it because a rock flew across the sky and bust into flame....

No. Well why? Did you not have fun, did you not like the colors, did you not like that it only costs 60 cents, was it because a rock flew across the sky and bust into flame....


If you are not willing to put in even a short review, your recommendation is pretty much useless. Even a I found it fun/I found it annoying is better than nothing.

Let me tell you something. I am not the best at writing reviews but some of my big reviews where I tried to be as constructive as possible in order to tell people why I like/dislike a game got marked as " Funny ", though there is nothing funny in those reviews and that wasn't even my intention. Therefore, my review is still worthless.

So don't bother. Or don't care.
Look if you can't muster the effort o put in a single sentence. I don't think your recommendattion will be missed.

I don't know what you mean by short review, the shortest review I have seen is literally a dot. I don't see see how that is helpful. I assume that the person didn't know what to write.

So you want to be even lazier than tthat guy?

[AustrAlien2010]

If the review is funny, that does not mean it is worthless or irrelevant. Someone was simply entertained reading it. Like, had fun reading the review, which may be considered as something positive. Please do not feel discouraged by that.
Obviously, a review that is only a dot, is not very helpful, even if it says so.

Apparently, things cannot be funny and helpful at the same time in Steam-land, but that's another discussion entirely.

[cinedine]

Would have been great if they did it some time ago to cut down on spam reviews. But with their review bomb policy I can't see it happen now.

[Gwarsbane]

Originally posted by Χάρης:

Let me tell you something. I am not the best at writing reviews but some of my big reviews where I tried to be as constructive as possible in order to tell people why I like/dislike a game got marked as " Funny ", though there is nothing funny in those reviews and that wasn't even my intention. Therefore, my review is still worthless.

So what if its marked as funny, someone found it funny. Doesn't mean its worthless, you actually tried to review it. Thats what matters.

Originally posted by Χάρης:

So at the end, does it even matter why I recommend or not recommend a game? To some yes, to some not.

Yes actually it does, just having a yes, tells people NOTHING. Maybe you liked it because of its name, maybe you liked it because it kept you entertained weeks on end, maybe you liked it because it got you out of trouble with a significant other. Without actually saying why you picked yes, we have no clue, there for it means nothing.

Even with my friends, if I ask them that, and they just say sure, I prod them and ask them why yes. If they say no, same thing.

Without a reason behind yes or no, its just spam.

Originally posted by Χάρης:

I don't know what you mean by short review, the shortest review I have seen is literally a dot. I don't see see how that is helpful. I assume that the person didn't know what to write.

A dot is useless.
A I liked it cause I liked it, is useless.
A It was cheap, is useless.

All of the above stuff, which I have personally seen over the years, should be removed from the recommendations.

A I liked it because the characters were interesting, lots of weapons, textures were amazing. Though the story over all was blaaa, is useful. Its also quite short but gives lots of info.

Its not super detailed as some actual reviewers but if you are not a professional reviewer I don't expect an essay from you, I do expect a little bit.

My reviews quite honestly suck, but I put a bit of detail in them to try to inform people of stuff in the game. They don't take me long to do them and if I can't really think of something to say, I just don't say anything and I don't leave a recommendation.


I should go back through some of my reviews and look for any of the smaller ones and add in some info, but as far as I remember I have always said something about the game in the review section.

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

Originally posted by Χάρης:

Originally posted by Gwarsbane:

Then your recommendation is worthless.

Do you recommend the game?
Yes. Well why? Did you have fun, did you like the colors, did you like that it only cost you 60 cents, was it because a rock flew across the sky and bust into flame....

No. Well why? Did you not have fun, did you not like the colors, did you not like that it only costs 60 cents, was it because a rock flew across the sky and bust into flame....


If you are not willing to put in even a short review, your recommendation is pretty much useless. Even a I found it fun/I found it annoying is better than nothing.

Let me tell you something. I am not the best at writing reviews but some of my big reviews where I tried to be as constructive as possible in order to tell people why I like/dislike a game got marked as " Funny ", though there is nothing funny in those reviews and that wasn't even my intention. Therefore, my review is still worthless.

So at the end, does it even matter why I recommend or not recommend a game? To some yes, to some not.

I don't know what you mean by short review, the shortest review I have seen is literally a dot. I don't see see how that is helpful. I assume that the person didn't know what to write.

Literally who cares about the awards and crap. It doesn't matter how well thought out or complete garbage a review is, anyone can mark something as anything. You people obsess over the weirdest things.

[Gus the Crocodile]

Decoupling the review from the recommendation would be good, yeah. They exist for different purposes, and it's entirely reasonable that people might want to submit one but not the other.

[ih8h2cuwu4s]

Originally posted by Gwarsbane:

Without a reason behind yes or no, its just spam.

Could you please link the research and or studies that provide evidence for this assertion?

What's funny is I've seen the exact opposite argument made whenever someone has suggested to change steam reviews from thumbs up/down to a scale of 5/10 stars. Then all of a sudden it's; no one cares about your convoluted opinion, people don't grade things similarly, all you need is a yes or no, keep it simple. Blah blah blah.

*IMO, when it comes to relying on subjective experiences to make a decision, more inputs isn't 'spam'. It's actually useful.

[Tito Shivan]

Originally posted by Gus the Crocodile:

Decoupling the review from the recommendation would be good, yeah. They exist for different purposes, and it's entirely reasonable that people might want to submit one but not the other.

The problem with just allowing recommendations without reviews is it'd make easier to 'spam' recommendations as it'd be a single click. In a way the act of requiring a written review along the recommendation serves as a measure to stop people from just clicking a button. Putting some purpose in the action.

I can understand the problem of wanting to decouple the review from the recommendation but more as an issue of linking a review to a recommendation than the other way around.

I can see someone wanting to review a game without recommending for/against it. But I find useless having people wanting to recommend me a game without telling me why.

Originally posted by Χάρης:

Let me tell you something. I am not the best at writing reviews but some of my big reviews where I tried to be as constructive as possible in order to tell people why I like/dislike a game got marked as " Funny ", though there is nothing funny in those reviews and that wasn't even my intention. Therefore, my review is still worthless.

You're putting yourself an example of how useless a vote is sometimes without giving it some context. You wonder why people voted your review 'funny' when it's not, but you're asking for a system to tell people they should buy a game without telling them why.

Wouldn't that turn you into the guy voting your review as 'funny', leaving you scratching your head at why that vote?

Originally posted by khes_bah_lah:

Originally posted by Gwarsbane:

Without a reason behind yes or no, its just spam.

Could you please link the research and or studies that provide evidence for this assertion?

-Buy this game!
-Why?
-Buy this game!
-But Why should I buy it?
-BUY. THIS. GAME!

That's how recommendations without reviews sound.

[Laptop]

"I recommend this game"

"Why?"

"I just recommend it, no explanation required"