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That's basic contract law for any country. Willful deceit and false information render a contract null and void. This is why that age gate is enough for most countries. If a parent finds a child did some purchasing then they can't really blame valve because their child engaged in fraud which is a criminal offense and as the parents they themselves would be on the hook for the child's behaviour. Never mind the implications as to the quality of their parenting.
First it was one thing, then that was not enough, now its another thing, how long before that's not enoug? Valve may just decide that its simply not worth the hassle of keeping up with whatever notion blows through some virtue signalling politician's brain and just not sell any of the games that are in issue.
It all boils back to the question. "Is it worth it?"
And? See that also brings developers into this. Developers will just start modifying their content to slip under the ratings . I mean they're kinda used to doing that for Germany.
Now see thats the sort of hyperbole that the politicians yuse to justify things. It's not a rational statement. Its a stattement based purely on emotion and meant to trigger an emotinal response, not an intellectuual one.
The simple counter is, "
"Parents need to take more responsibility for their children"
Which is the truth. Parents simply exercising the tools available to them would negate the issue.
Or if you want to go emotional.
"Why are you outsourcing parental responsibility to megacorps?"
Or you know. Making use of the various parental control features already available. I mean lets be frank. Valve knows enough to know that very little will stop a determined youngster from getting their hands on stuff. Nothing stops them.
They also know that barring those games from german s won't stop germans from buying the games.
You really don't know what's going on in Germany.
German politicians give a rat's butt over what the people think. They only care about articles about them by big media organisations.
Accordingly Germans can expect more forthcoming behavior from a company.
If I have a choice, I always contact a company over a politician, in this case Valve.
There are no counterpoints.
There is just baseless rambling about how it's not worth it from people who lack the data to actually tell wether its worth and and who ignore the data points borught up as well as baseless rambling about our contries laws from people who have no clue.
And it's the same people who are derailing and trolling in nearly every thread because they have nothing else to do in their lives. That's not a discussion.
"Dieses Problem ist uns bekannt, und wir arbeiten gerade an einem Update, um das Problem zu beheben.
"We are aware of this issue and we are currently working on an update to address it.
I´m going to ask them how this update is going to look.
If you're that overly worried, you can get parental controls and learn to use a firewall or any site-blocking ability which gives you more control rather than relying on everyone else to do what you should be doing, else you don't get to complain when you put zero effort into it.
They're not obligated to tell you how something internal is going to work, please don't waste Steam Supports time when you can just wait and find out while other people actually need help with things.
Actually going by the logic they don't need to do anything, if it's brought to their attention then the individual gets a lock/ban for breaking the agreement. You're either lying when making a contract which can and will get you in trouble, or you're a legitimate user, but at anytime breaking the agreement can have consequences.
To the people moaning about the German government:
As a German citizen I can drive as fast as physics allow on the Autobahn, go to a brothel because prostitution is totally legal here, buy and drink alcohol in public or own guns which includes Shotguns etc. We also have one of the social systems in the world and as it could be seen in the current pandemic one of the best health care systems. So it is not so bad living in Germany under the current government :) Could it be better? Of course but could also be worse.
You can see the contradiction here
Or we can stick with the blanket response until they come up with anything if they so choose to do so since the fault lies within the german government.
Yeah and that kinda explains why your government can afford to give a rats ass. Vicious cycle.
At some point a company will simply say 'Not worth it' and that will be that. And Valve seems to be testing that for the moment.
WHat's going on in Germany doesn't change the fact that Valve like any business is motivated by money. Everything is a CBA for them and sometimes that CBA isn't gonna by in your favour.
The megacorps aren;'t trying to get away with anything. They Valve was given a choice. Do X, or Stop Selling these games. VAlve at the moment has chosen the second option,. A business will always pick the option that yields the best CBA.
Online age verificaation has long been a tricky issue, because again you really can't verify the person on the other end. Do you know how most credit card numbers get stolen? By cashiers with good memories or smart phone cameras.. Every system boils down to the honor-system and in which case just asking the question uis as effective as anything else.
If the person would lie in answer to that question, then they would just as readily give someone else's id number as well.
It again depends on how those numbers stack up. Your country may not be tthe big spender you think it is.
Mmmm hmmm and?
Yeah and you may notice that those launchers tend to have fewer features and offer fewer consumer protections ;-).
As said by others. The matter of connecting to a government database is rather a tricky thing as is securing such sensitive information.
Afterall, it would be some sort of country proprietary tool would it not? Given Sony's past security including storing users passwords in plain text, I doubt this tool is well protected against bad actors.
Also just because another service does it, doesn't mean it's easy or that everyone should do it. Likely, the major difference here is that PSN sales to Germany are greater for AAA / Hyped games, not so much visual novel / hentai games that are on Steam. Many people seem to intentionally ignore this when talking about PC Digital Store vs Console Physical & Console Online store.
lmao, you couldn't have shown more clearly that you don't understand the issue. How does Steam know you are over 13? Because you said so. That doesn't stop a 12-year-old from making a Steam account... man, how can you argue this issue still without even understanding what it's about?
Wrong. The moment they sell a higher-rated game to a minor they are in violation of the law and subject to high penalties. Simply terminating the account afterwards doesn't change a thing. And again you are showing you don't understand the issue. So just stop maybe.
"It's the children's responsibility to tell the truth, not the store's to actually verify their age." *facepalm*
How about instead you stop telling people what to do? I'm sure Steam support is perfectly capable of deciding for themselves what tickets they reply to how without you leaping to their defense like some corporation's white knight. I mean, this issue obviously doesn't affect you, so why not just keep out of it, instead of being a condescending ♥♥♥♥ to people who it actually affects? Can you really not handle someone complaining to a company about an issue?
That really sums up this thread tbh.