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They'd rather have that 0 dollars then losing money by you buying a console and not getting their money back.
The thing about businesses is if they aren't profitable they die, and although you might get a short term benefit out of it, in the long term you suffer for your lack of foresight.
This is one of those scenarios where there isn't a way to make it work because they are in direct competition with each other. No deal is going to ever profit Sony where you can play another platforms library on their console. Nor is it going to help developers who lose the potential to double dip and sell 2 copies.
If some sort of deal like this ever did occur expect extreme DRM requiring accounts to be linked, online always restrictions, losing the ability to use your console and steam at the same time to prevent sharing, and most dev's just completely opting out and blocking it all togethor as steam can't force them to accept that.
I wouldn't just buy the console. As I said-- I would also probably buy exclusives. -- as it is, If I did buy one, I would only buy it to play exclusives, and that on its own is not enough for me to buy the console or any console for that matter. -- They would get the same amount of money out of me either way.
As far as it being profitable, They, again, would have to make whatever deal-- IE-- To play steam games you need to have PS+ or something-- they would make their money back. Or when you go to buy a game you pay 15 percent more to get the IP on Console-- The person that would lose I guess is the devs because I didn't buy two copies of the game, but then again, I wouldn't buy two copies of the game anyway.
Again--- I guess you missed what I said-- I don't care about the best interest of a company-- I care about my own interest as a consumer. Whether it happens or not-- I don't really care, the only way I would buy a playstation and give sony money outside of paying for a movie ticket to see a spiderman movie, would be if they gave an incentive outside of exclusives to buy their console.
I would be fine with not being able to play my games on PC while I play it on Console... I'm not two people. -- Of couse devs should have the option to opt in or out... as it is Xbox has a library of games that can be played on Console and PC-- it would be the literal same thing and I would be okay paying a bit more to have that versatility that isn't streaming my PC to the TV.
Your argument is moot-
No more so then your argument, as you admit you only care about yourself and refuse to see the bigger implications. Your entitled to your opinion just as i'm entitled to my opinion.
Your opinion however atm is fantasy, and is not based in any shred of reality or in any way answers or contributes to the OP's question in that No he cannot play Steam games on PS5, and most likely never will as there is not a single bit of evidence to suggest it will ever be possible.
Eh-- No. Its not moot, Because my argument hinders on me buying a console if there is a greater incentive. That incentive in this case being able to play games from my PC catalog. -- I like PC gaming because my library over the course of 2 decades are still playable, where as history has shown, To play some console games you are required to own multiple machines of older generations-- I realize this is changing, which is great, but PC has been doing that for awhile.
I bought a switch because the incentive was that I could take it anywhere and play.
-- and you are right, it is a fantasy, but it isn't an opinion-- it's literally an 'if statement' IF they did that, I would buy a playstation. -- and I wasn't even attempting to answer OP's question... But then again, I sorta did. By saying if they did, it implies they currently don't-- not in any official capacity. I further never suggested such a thing.
Why the ♥♥♥♥ you're arguing with me about a "what if" is stupid-- and while it probably won't happen, again-- I dont care, It would be a reason I would buy one if I could.
Good talk homie. Try again with someone else. You haven't done anything to prove your point. I really wasn't of the mindset that they would even ever do that anyway.
Again your argument is just as moot as my argument that doing so hurts the developers and leads to everyone suffering because people only care about themslves and are incapable of seeing how what they want effects the bigger picture.
The only actual fact that you have managed to say, and the only thing that remotely comes close to actually being on topic.
I care more about what's on the bottom of my shoes then proving a point to you, hence why its easier to just ignore you like I just did.
If your going to post on a thread and insult companies and call them stupid, then you have to actually be able to back up your claim with facts, and as you admitted you don't care about Sony, just how much you can benefit regardless of the damage that it causes them. That's called being short sighted and you do nothing but hurt yourself in the long run.
Lol-- I wouldn't consider that anyways. The same way You cannot run an Xbox game on PC--- or a PC game on Xbox--- How do you think they do that? They give you access to the Xbox version and the PC version.
1. again, dont care about developers. I care about my own interest as a consumer. They are a business, I am sure they can handle themselves while I look out for myself. its not like they care about the consumer outside of convincing us to spend money.
2. If you care about the bottom of your shoe--- Then... but you are responding to me... You must really care about the soles of your shoes, homie.
3. I need to back up claims on sony and why they are dumb? Lol-- where have you been? Spiderman debacle, their refusal for ages to bring cross platform to users. Do you want links?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_PlayStation_Network_outage
^ that was pretty stupid on their part. Do you want more?
today is my day off, I can grab another cup of coffee and do this all day, or until a mod tells us to drop it.
Not saying they do it, but saying it's not possible or the like is not that true
More so I believe that someday Sony will move to online gaming like Streaming and the like and drop the console itself beside maybe a thin version of it just for the Streaming
It's more profitable for them to lock users to remain on their system mouthly then how its now, but will see as time rolls
It is entirely true. A PS5 might be similar to a computer. but its entirely true to say they cannot run PC games, as they are missing many of the features that are present in PC's.
They already have a streaming service, Playstation Now, its been around for years. Don't expect them to ever move away from physical gaming because the fact is a large portion of the US and the World are not able to get access to reliable fast speed internet capable of handling it or they are not willing to live with the restrictions of cloud gaming.
Its not similar-- it is a PC. They are already moving over from physical gaming- There is a PS5 without a disk drive. Only a few more steps from it being a box that streams content instead of from an SSD. The Physical medium is dying. Its practically dead on PC as far as buying Disc based media. - there is Stadia-- give it time.
Again similar, but its missing the features and components required to run PC games. In another generation or two of consoles what your thinking might be possible but its not there yet.
They aren't "moving away" from physical gaming, that would imply that they are transitioning to no longer offer physical gaming. They are simply offering a lower price point console if someone chooses to forgo it for a tiny savings.
It can already stream content and they offer it, again Playstation Now (it helps to read).
The PC market is VASTLY different then the console market, people have been saying physical media was dead before the PS4 even came out and its still not true. Also many people who don't have access to the internet or a stable connection buy a console instead for gaming for that very reason.
42 million american's don't have access to high speed internet - or about 13% of the population. Those that do have high speed internet often have data caps that prohibit or make streaming not feasible which increases that number to well over 30%.
Around the world in many places that number gets higher, and its compounded by people who work in locations without easy access to internet for gaming like Military. It's a well known issue that requires massive infrastructure improvements to fix.
It's also one of the big restrictions to services like Stadia that are seing relatively low user bases and dropping playerbases. Streaming will definitely become more mainstream but its a LONG ways away from killing physical media, especially when over 1/3 of your customer base can't even use it.
What is it missing? It has a GPU/CPU/APU, RAM, a Hard Drive, a Mobo, Powersupply. -- Sounds like everything a PC is. An Android phone is a Personal Computer.
Sure its vastly different. -- Doesn't mean they wont merge. Microsoft is basically doing that now anyways with Gamepass and the "Buy Once, play anywhere" bit.
The speed of internet doesn't mean anything-- there are places in the world that are not powered-- So ♥♥♥♥-- they can't power a TV-- Better stop making TVs. You're internet example doesn't mean anything-- Internet speeds will go up given time.
At the end of the day today most of the profit for consoles comes from the game sales on their store, and subscriptions (PlayStation now and PlayStation Plus)
Its known that in many cases at least they sale the consoles for cheap, in sale cost or even at a losing price because its not what makes the money, and is only a tool to lock people to there market
My personal opinion was for a long time that Sony will move away from physical devices for a long time, and when they got OnLive my feeling on that got stronger, PlayStation Now is on PC as well and I am guessing that they will be pushing it a little harder over time, till at some point they stop selling a real console and will go on a more of a shell that just doses Playstasion now
It will simply be cheaper for them to make and sell, locks the people in the market, and needs overall less support and the like
I know some cant use it, I personally was surprised that it worked (tricking I was in the US) pretty well, and I think over time the problem of not being able to play online as of internet issue will be fixed or improved
To point that the new PlayStation has 2 versions, one is without a Disk, and that shows again them trying to move away from physical to a degree
I may be wrong on it, but I think PlayStation 4 originally supposed to have some time of always-online DRM no? something with the cam had to be connected and stuff
It may not happen but will see as time moves on
About the feathers being missing, sure, but in the end its in there ballpark to do it, if they want to at any point, they can basically add the missing parts or run it in kind of emulation, unlikely at all but its possible and not a turn around the system work I think to achieve a thing like that if they wish to do it
A LOT. The Hardware for consoles have specific logic and functionality that is unique to them as well as custom built hardware. It is EXTREMELY difficult to emulate that outside of the hardware and is why it takes so much more power and resources to emulate games. The general rule of thumb for instance is that emulation takes 10x or more power then the native system to simulate what its hardware can do natively. It's why PS3 emulation is so subpar even though we are now 2 generations behind it.
Even Nintendo has commented on it and its the reason why for instance the old 3DS can't play ported SNES games even though the technology is 20+ years ahead of the SNES - https://www.slashgear.com/your-old-3ds-wont-play-snes-games-nintendo-explains-why-10431007/
it takes an insane amount of power compared to the original hardware.
No they aren't. They are just giving you access to 2 totally separate games. One built for PC one built for console. They are not playing PC games on console or vice versa.
Yes, the speed of the internet does matter for streaming. Places in the world with no power were never a customer of Consoles OR PC, so your argument is well nonsensical.
Also internet speeds CANNOT go up without massive capital expenditures and is one of the biggest issues facing the US and other nations. This became evident during Covid with internet outages and issues requiring sites like Netflix and others to throttle down and restrict their speeds because the nations infrastructure can't handle it.