Option to not show ignored/owned games @Store homepage

[StormTehSinner]

I usually like browsing the stores homepage in Steam, but since it gets changed more and more towards featuring specific games or some "the community likes" BS, it got extremely bad for me. Like 90+% of all games shown I've already bought or set to "Ignore".

Pls give us the option to not show ignored or owned games on the stores homepage. I'm ignoring those games for a reason and still stuffing them in my face won't change anything.

Here are some pics how my "User Experience" looks like on the stores homepage with 3000+ games on the "Ignore"-list...

https://postimg.cc/gallery/KZX5csj

[Sazzouu]

The homepage is not meant to be influenced by your personal settings because it is a promotional page (for example for new partnerships, developers anniversary, etc.) and this feature will therefore never happen because that would basically void the purpose of the store homepage.

The only thing that will be influenced by your preferences is the search function where ignored games will never be listed + you have the option to hide owned games

[Crazy Tiger]

Front store page won't be completely filtered. A post by Tito about it:

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1708442022337025126

Q: Sometimes I see blurred out games on my Store front page. Why is that?

A: There are a number of sections on the front page that we fill with games, and to ensure the servers behind it don't melt down as everyone tries to use it, we do a lot of data caching. This works great for data sets that we can easily pre-compute - so if there's a game you shouldn't see due to your mature content filters, you'll never see it on the front page. But if you've chosen to do some more personal filtering of particular developers, or specific games, we can't do that pre-computation as easily. As a result, it's possible you'll see a blurred out game on the front page because your personal filters should cause it to be hidden. In practice, though, this will only happen if you've filtered out so many games that it can't find enough to fill a section of the front page, and again, like the search results, we'll blur that game out and tell you why.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/1743346190281060831/#c1743346190281283867

[StormTehSinner]

So... why didn't I have such big problems like a year ago? Of course I've got some blurred out games on the stores homepage back then, but now it's most of the games.
It was just like... showing me personalized recommandations back then...
But all of a sudden the "servers will melt down" if I get personalized recommendations? Yeah... right...

Just say that Valve doesn't f***ing care for their users anymore, because it's pretty obvious for me. I guess Epic did leave their mark on Valve after all... and all of Valves decisions were about doing something for the sake of holding publishers and making/securing as much money as possible.

[cinedine]

Because back then the recommendations were more fitting. Either because your tast in gaming as broader or you didn't own most of the stuff you are interested in already.
The home page was always more or less curated by Valve.

[Sazzouu]

The sections where the blurred games mainly are are sections like "Popular new releases" or "Top Sellers" so basically sections that are generally speaking over Steams activity and not your likings.

If you don't like such sections then scroll beyond them. As you can see in the second screenshot they alternate with sections like "Games your could like based on the games you've played" or "Your Wishlist" and what a surprise... none of these games are blurred in your pictures.

So yeah back to my argument:
The main shop page is not intended to be entirely user-personalized but promotional. However it still has those sections where they show recommendations based on your purchases, playtime and curators.

[Tito Shivan]

Originally posted by StormTehSinner:

So... why didn't I have such big problems like a year ago? Of course I've got some blurred out games on the stores homepage back then, but now it's most of the games.

https://store.steampowered.com/account/preferences/
https://store.steampowered.com/account/notinterested/
See what has changed here in the last year. Games are blurred out due to your content in said places.

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Originally posted by StormTehSinner:

So... why didn't I have such big problems like a year ago? Of course I've got some blurred out games on the stores homepage back then, but now it's most of the games.
It was just like... showing me personalized recommandations back then...
But all of a sudden the "servers will melt down" if I get personalized recommendations? Yeah... right...

Just say that Valve doesn't f***ing care for their users anymore, because it's pretty obvious for me. I guess Epic did leave their mark on Valve after all... and all of Valves decisions were about doing something for the sake of holding publishers and making/securing as much money as possible.

Also, you cannot filter more than 10 tags on your store preferences, when steam has thousands of game titles and rising, and users who can create and apply those tags.

It is more like a strategy, they want you to see every game on the store in hopes to sell more and give you useless filtering with this "recommendations" algorithm that doesn´t stop showing clones of the clones .

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by StormTehSinner:

So... why didn't I have such big problems like a year ago?

For starters the pictures you added in your OP are from the Summer Sale front page. That one rarely is personalised and completely geared towards maximum sales profit across the board (not just you).

[StormTehSinner]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by StormTehSinner:

So... why didn't I have such big problems like a year ago?

For starters the pictures you added in your OP are from the Summer Sale front page. That one rarely is personalised and completely geared towards maximum sales profit across the board (not just you).

Even on sales I haven't got such a big problem before. But Valve doesn't care as much for their users anymore I guess. At least that's how it sounds after some of the answers here. Fixed recommendations of the "probably most selling games" is all well and good, but giving us an option to filter out every ignored and/or owned game would show us more games we may like and therefore may buy too. That's pretty much a win-win-situation here, but I guess a good change isn't really wanted here. Looking at the new library and this opinion makes even more sense, because that wasn't a good change eiter for quite a few people... (me included)

Pretty much every reason "against" my suggestion I've read so far is pretty much bullsh*t in my opinion. And yes, even Tito Shivans post is BS here because it doesn't help much that "preferences" and "not interested" was improved if Valve doesn't wanna use it for its full potential.

[obliviondoll]

It's one thing to have "ok but we're just going to put an 'ignored' flag on top of the product listing" and it's quite another to have "ok you can ignore stuff but we don't care"

https://i.imgur.com/7kBLTfb.png

Neither is actually appropriate, but if you're going to go with a half-measure, at least implement it consistently.

I had the ticket closed with a reassurance that the feedback has been passed on. I don't expect a proper resolution, and I do expect that in a few weeks it'll happen again and need to be reported again. I'm still, more than a month after it started, fighting support over the fact that they're blocking me, without any legal ground to do so, from accessing my account outside of the forums right now. So I've pretty much given up all hope in Steam ever being handled anything like what you'd call "competent" at this stage.

[Tito Shivan]

Originally posted by obliviondoll:

It's one thing to have "ok but we're just going to put an 'ignored' flag on top of the product listing" and it's quite another to have "ok you can ignore stuff but we don't care"

https://i.imgur.com/7kBLTfb.png

Neither is actually appropriate, but if you're going to go with a half-measure, at least implement it consistently.

The feature is implemented consistently. Filtered items apply in the curated areas. Generic ones are generic for everyone.
As for why the filtered items are not removed from view there's a practical reason which has been stated earlier in the thread:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Front store page won't be completely filtered. A post by Tito about it:

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1708442022337025126

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/1743346190281060831/#c1743346190281283867

[obliviondoll]

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

The feature is implemented consistently. Filtered items apply in the curated areas. Generic ones are generic for everyone.

Being implemented differently in different parts of the store is literally what "inconsistently" means.

And no, a COMPETENT practical reason for that has NOT been provided. A bad excuse for it being the way it is has been provided. That's a very different thing.

Also I've seen a sale event for an ignored publisher where all their non-DLC content was correctly flagged as ignored in the generic portion of the screen and where the only unflagged items were some recent DLCs for some reason. And those DLCs were correctly linked on the publisher's pages but not correctly flagged as ignored anywhere they appeared, curated or otherwise.

[Sazzouu]

Originally posted by obliviondoll:

Being implemented differently in different parts of the store is literally what "inconsistently" means.

Better look that up again...

Parts of the storefront have their given purposes... some adjust to your filters and others don't because they are MEANT to display generic content for everyone on Steam.

PS:
"Inconsistent" would mean that if you reload the storepage it would display completely random content all over again which infact it doesn't

[obliviondoll]

Originally posted by BeatZ #IncomingNamechange:

Originally posted by obliviondoll:

Being implemented differently in different parts of the store is literally what "inconsistently" means.

Better look that up again...

Parts of the storefront have their given purposes... some adjust to your filters and others don't because they are MEANT to display generic content for everyone on Steam.

PS:
"Inconsistent" would mean that if you reload the storepage it would display completely random content all over again which infact it doesn't

If the SAME content is displayed DIFFERENTLY in different parts of the SAME page, that is inconsistent. Whether there is a pattern to the inconsistency or not does not negate that fact. You might want to look up the word yourself. And "random" while you're at it, to see that the two are in fact different words. Randomness isn't necessarily inconsistent and inconsistency isn't necessarily random.

[[bin]zwieda]

So, do i understand that correctly?

The storepage wants to remind me in some kind, to not forget, that there are games, which i want to ignore, as they don´t interest me in any way?

Looking like something like this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2157566189

THATS´s the reason, why it´s displayed?
So my screen gets filled up completely with advertisments of products, i refused to show any interest in before by pressing some "ignore" button.

As i am no native english speaker, i would like to ask for official confirmation for that kind of concept. I wanna take care to fully understand the platform(s), i´m gonna purchase products from in the future.

Thanks in advance.