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In the case of direct digital purchases, it usually doesn’t matter where the seller is based - only where the buyer is based. The purchase takes place in Germany using a German payment method, the buyer is in Germany, pays German sales tax and presumably downloads from a German download server.
So yeah, German law presumably applies. Why? Because you’re technically not importing. Now if you buy a ROW key from a legit reseller who’s outside Germany then that’s different.
If the games are being removed from the German store its because they are not allowed to be sold in Germany. The age verification process is already sufficient and can't be made more robust without violating the law.
Perhaps you can post some examples of games you think are being removed because of an age requirement?
The "Medienanstalt Hamburg / Schleswig-Holstein" asked Steam to remove the following titles in Germany because Steam has no proper age verification system:
House Party
Koikatsu Party
Sex & Gun VR
Super Naughty Maid 2
VR Kanojo
Hard Work
I Walk Among Zombies Vol. 1
NEKO-NIN exHeart - 18+ Adult Only Content
Seven days with the Ghost
NEKOPARA Vol.1 - 18+ Adult Only Content
NEKOPARA Vol.2 - 18+ Adult Only Content
NEKOPARA Vol. 3 - 18+ Adult Only Content
KARAKARA - 18+ Adult Only Content
KARAKARA2 - 18+ Adult Only Content
Love's Sweet Garnish - 18+ Adult Only Content
NEKO-NIN exHeart 2 - 18+ Adult Only Content
Ne no Kami - The Two Princess Knights of Kyoto - 18+ Adult Only Content
Ne no Kami - The Two Princess Knights of Kyoto Part 2 - 18+ Adult Only Content
The Ditzy Demons Are in Love With Me - 18+ Adult Only Content
Hikari! Clover Rescue
Re;Lord 1 - 18+ Adult Only Content
Aisu Paradise
Super Naughty Maid
I Walk Among Zombies Vol. 2
Hikari! Love Potion
Source: https://steamcommunity.com/app/611790/discussions/2/1738887849007064049/#c1746769761278465194
and https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Nukige/announcements/detail/1692726369365997993
So no actual factual sources? Just people on steam forums making claims with no proof, links to any articles etc?
I'll Google it later but that's always a red flag if there is no actual proof
Especially since there are thousands of other games that should have been removed if their claim is true.
"Medienanstalt Hamburg / Schleswig-Holstein (MA HSH)
The Medienanstalt Hamburg / Schleswig-Holstein (MA HSH), based in Norderstedt, is responsible for the approval of private broadcasting in both countries and for the supervision of the radio and television programs it has licensed. In addition, it checks compliance with the legal provisions on the websites of providers based in Hamburg or Schleswig-Holstein."
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/foruncut/discussions/0/1749021985763405507/
(translated by goggle translate for you)
Since there is obviously a need for discussion and articles have been created on the pin board for days, which is not very clear due to the nature of the medium, there is now this extra thread. A news may follow later if I have collected more information.
Situation:
On January 24th around 11 p.m. UTC (according to SteamDB), 5 games were apparently removed from the German store offering (the links go to our curator sub-forum):
コ イ カ ツ / Koikatsu Party
House party
Super Naughty Maid 2
Sex & Gun VR
VR Kanojo
On January 31, around 0:30 a.m. UTC (according to SteamDB), 8 games and 12 DLCs apparently followed:
Aisu Paradise
Hard work
Hikari! Clover Rescue
Hikari! Love potion
I Walk Among Zombies Vol. 1
I Walk Among Zombies Vol. 2
KARAKARA (uncensor DLC)
KARAKARA2 (uncensor DLC)
Love's Sweet Garnish (uncensor DLC)
Neko-nin exHeart (uncensor DLC)
NEKO-NIN exHeart 2 (uncensor DLC)
Ne no Kami: The Two Princess Knights of Kyoto (uncensor DLC)
Ne no Kami - The Two Princess Knights of Kyoto Part 2 (uncensor DLC)
NEKOPARA Vol. 1 (uncensor DLC)
NEKOPARA Vol. 2 (uncensor DLC)
NEKOPARA Vol. 3 (uncensor DLC)
Super naughty maid
Re; Lord 1 (uncensor DLC)
Seven days with the ghost
The Ditzy Demons Are in Love With Me (uncensor DLC)
The locks are also likely to affect key activations.
A developer of House Party referred to a message from the Medienanstalt Hamburg / Schleswig-Holstein (MA HSH) (apparently on Steam or Valve) (https://steamcommunity.com/app/611790/discussions/2/1738887849007064049/?ctp = 2 # c1738888024500052557). They are currently trying to unlock the main game for Germany (apparently without pornographic elements).
If necessary, further locks can be found with SteamDB. Log in there and search for "PurchaseRestrictedCountries" with the value "DE" and sort them again. SteamDB is not affiliated with Valve.
The legal situation
Slightly modified from our FAQ:
Steam obviously does not have an age verification system (AVS). This serves to secure so-called closed user groups and is an essential part of the legally secure accessibility of certain, relatively impermissible content to adults in accordance with Section 4 (2) JMStV. These contents include in particular offers that are wholly or essentially identical in content to media indexed on List Part A or C, or those that are of a pornographic nature within the meaning of Section 184 of the Criminal Code. Even with an AVS, however, content in the context of list parts B and D may not be offered in accordance with Section 4 (1) No. 11 JMStV; see also the further facts of an absolute inadmissibility according to § 4 Abs. 1 JMStV. Further information on the website of the Commission for Youth Media Protection (KJM), which evaluates concepts for age verification systems. [Https:/www.kjm-online.de/aufsicht/technischer-jugendmedienschutz/unzulaessige-angebote/altersverificationssysteme/]
Absolutely inadmissible according to § 4 paragraph 1 JMStV would be B. also child or youth pornography within the meaning of §§ 184b / c StGB or so-called posture representations below the pornography threshold ("Represent children or adolescents in unnaturally gender-emphasized posture: this also applies to virtual representations").
Valve apparently has a German headquarters with the Valve GmbH (Hamburg): https://www.game.de/members-archive/valve/
What your saying and posting is two very different things.
It sounds more like those games don't comply with Germany's laws regarding child porn and were removed.
That makes far more sense as it's limited to a small subsection of games and has nothing at all to do with an age verification system.
If it was any adult content you'd see thousands removed
Well if they have a precense in Hamburg, then it make more sense i guess.
This has nothing to do with child pornography, its the fact that children can easily access marked for adults only content and that steam doesn't have a valid age verification system satisfying the german law — Thats why they were taken down.
Except as it's been pointed out that makes no sense. If that was the reason then ALL adult content games would be taken down, not just a select few. There are thousands of adult titles on the German store that are unaffected
Plus from what you posted
Nekopara for instance I've heard of and it pushes the limits with it's design of underage looking chars.
Only the future will tell.
And the suggestion that Steam should not, will not happen as long as steam think's they are forced by law.
Basic search of that game shows multiple sites expecting it to get banned for underage looking chars
Thats not how that government works. They need to get a kind of suggestion on what to look at. And german government is slow.
If Nekopara was pushing the limits of child pornography then why is it still on steam?
This is ONLY about adult content.
But in the end it is not what i think, but what the authorities think.
Every country has slightly different rules regarding it. Looks like Germany is being more strict with a handful of games.
Again, if it was in issue with a not secure enough age system they would have had to pull EVERY adult game. Not just a tiny portion.
Also per your post they were removed.