Steam Games Neutral Review Button!
We absolutely need a neutral button for the games ratings. Only top or flop button are not enough!

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Start_Running Nov 2, 2018 @ 8:39am 
Uhm So you want Top, flop, and I couldn't be bothered buttons instead?

Oy vey. It's a simple question. If you ask your friend if you should see a movie, Him doing the equivalent of shrugging doesn't help.

If you ask your friend if a game is good or bad, and he answers it's good and bad, you'd just be annoyed.

If you can't decide whether or not you enjoyed playing the game you're reviewing.. then don't bother reviewing.
Crazy Tiger Nov 2, 2018 @ 8:41am 
The question is "Would you recommend this game?". If your answer is "I don't know", then don't write a review.

Last edited by Crazy Tiger; Nov 2, 2018 @ 8:42am
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Nov 2, 2018 @ 8:49am 
Please use the search function.

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VaLiuM Nov 2, 2018 @ 9:22am 
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
The question is "Would you recommend this game?". If your answer is "I don't know", then don't write a review.
Pretty much this.
here we go again..

Neutral reviews are worthless from a commercial and for most customer viewpoint.

Notice how its always the same ppl deadset arguing how neutral reviews would be such an amazing addition when in reality it just feels like "i cant be bothered to make up my mind but lemme write up a review about how i cant make up my mind whether or not I like this and that game".

Utterly useless moot information that doesnt justifies a review.

So lemme repeat myself the one billionth time although i dont expect a whole lot out of it:

do you like the game?
yes
or
no

If you cannot decide, dont write a review until then. Just as simple
Last edited by Zetikla; Nov 2, 2018 @ 9:40am
yeah okay sorry for wasting your time...
Cosmonautikal Nov 2, 2018 @ 4:30pm 
Curators can make "Informational" reviews though. Why not users? Many user reviews are just as wordy if not moreso than curator reviews.
Last edited by Cosmonautikal; Nov 2, 2018 @ 4:31pm
cinedine Nov 2, 2018 @ 4:40pm 
Originally posted by Cosmo_Kane:
Curators can make "Informational" reviews though. Why not users? Many user reviews are just as wordy if not moreso than curator reviews.

Because some curators are purely informational. It is a bitodd if the Framerate Police (not) recommends a game with the warning "locked to 30 FPS".

It was a later addition and has no effect on what Valve wants user reviews to be.
Start_Running Nov 2, 2018 @ 4:58pm 
Originally posted by Cosmo_Kane:
Curators can make "Informational" reviews though. Why not users? Many user reviews are just as wordy if not moreso than curator reviews.
Curators also don't need to actually own or play the games they curate.
Originally posted by Zetikla:
Notice how its always the same ppl deadset arguing how neutral reviews would be such an amazing addition
Silly bit of projection here. The entire reason we get multiple threads popping up on this is because different people come along suggesting it. You then get the same group of people jumping in to argue against the idea.

Originally posted by cinedine:
Because some curators are purely informational. It is a bitodd if the Framerate Police (not) recommends a game with the warning "locked to 30 FPS".
Doesn't really seem odd to me. The word you use, "warning", implies the intended reading of what they're saying is that it's a negative. So does the word they use to describe their role: police. You don't need a police force if all you want to do is present neutral information. Surely if they can't make up their mind whether what they're writing is supposed to be good or bad, they should just not bother curating.
Matt Nov 2, 2018 @ 8:30pm 
What sorts of characteristics would make a game a neutral rating?
Cosmonautikal Nov 3, 2018 @ 12:58am 
Originally posted by Matt:
What sorts of characteristics would make a game a neutral rating?

  • Enjoyable but has technical flaws
  • Good game but misleading marketing
  • Has elements some may find intolerable
  • Developer engages in unethical practices
  • Game is technically competent but not to own taste
  • Game is only of value to an extremely specific audience
  • Game is overpriced
  • Game is objectively poor quality, but has comedic value
Last edited by Cosmonautikal; Nov 3, 2018 @ 1:25am
Originally posted by Cosmo_Kane:
Curators can make "Informational" reviews though. Why not users?
This.

A neutral/informational stance on a thing is fundamentally different from an upvote/approve/recommend or downvote/disapprove/not-recommend stance.

By not having a neutral option, I don't get to read the information that people who do have a neutral opinion but are discouraged from sharing it by the lack of this option, would have posted.

Furthermore, by having only two choices, this mischaracterizes existing reviews that pick one or the other for a barely-positive or barely-negative opinion when the author clearly would have wanted it to be neutral; it makes it look like these staunchly disagree with each other.

I don't need Steam to force its reviewers to tell me whether to buy a game or not.
I only need Steam to invite its reviewers to share their information on the game.
Start_Running Nov 3, 2018 @ 3:03am 
Originally posted by Cosmo_Kane:
Originally posted by Matt:
What sorts of characteristics would make a game a neutral rating?

  • Enjoyable but has technical flaws
  • Good game but misleading marketing
  • Has elements some may find intolerable

These are true for all games.

  • Developer engages in unethical practices
  • [/quote]
    Has nothing to do with the actual game.

  • Game is technically competent but not to own taste
  • Game is only of value to an extremely specific audience
  • [/quote]
    Again can be applied to any and all games.

  • Game is overpriced
  • [/quote]

  • Game is objectively poor quality, but has comedic value
  • [/list] [/quote]
    There's no actual metric for objective measurement for entertainment products.

    You can just as easil say yes or no with any or all of those criteria. because the end question is "Did you enjoy it?" If the answer is yes then by gum that's your review. If the answer is no. They say so. The whole Neutral thing seems to be because some people are afraid they'll bve 'wrong' and others because they have some bizzare impression that Yes means you must absolutely love the game and everything about it. And no means you must hate the game and think it's the worst thing evar.

    The first reason is essentially a cop-out, the second is misunderstanding. You can like something while being aware of and acknowledging its flaws and you can dislike something even while acknowledging it's good. I mean I didn't like the Movie titanic...I wouldn't recommend it to anyone but at the same time I can understand why other people would like it. M<ost well written reviews take this approach.

    A positive review will mention flaws in many cases and a negative review will give props for what it does right.

    Remember, With entertainbment, there's very little chance of a middle ground. you either find something a net enjoyment, or a net disappointment.

    Hint if while doing something you find yourself thinking opf other things you'd rather be doing...or could be doing.. you're not enjoying yourself.
    Cosmonautikal Nov 3, 2018 @ 3:42am 
    Originally posted by Start_Running:


    A positive review will mention flaws in many cases and a negative review will give props for what it does right.

    Remember, With entertainbment, there's very little chance of a middle ground. you either find something a net enjoyment, or a net disappointment.

    Hint if while doing something you find yourself thinking opf other things you'd rather be doing...or could be doing.. you're not enjoying yourself.

    Quality response, and I think I'm coming around to accepting the current system, even though I feel like more options is always a good thing. Maybe a post should be pinned with all the most common suggestions and the standard explanations for why they aren't happening?
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