Click the cross top left to CLOSE not minimise.

[Yoda Halfpint]

i find this behaviour not just erroneous but extremely annoying that i cannot set steam in its settings to close on clicking the CLOSE button. if i want steam wasting resources while i play fifa i will run the damn app and have the window open.

steam has (and neither does origin for that matter) NO BUSINESS being open when not needed. it wastes resources and with windows 10 already bloating and slowing down my pc (1803 has already downed my novabench marks by 9 or 10 points and runs WORSE for games) i do not need some application im not currently using open. i shlouldnt have to go into menus and click exit. if i want to run a steam game i can either open steam then click play in steam (which is what i do already) OR just clicking the desktop shortcut opens steam anyways! there is NO NEED for steam to run in the background like malware. so please add the setting to force close when CLOSE button is clicked. if i want you in background i will click MINIMISE TO TASKBAR icon. thats what its FOR.

and dont try claiming that other clients do it. other people commt crimes, and so you think everyone should? thats where that logic leads. two wrongs do not make a right.

and i still want to change the useless and non-informative 'friends & chat +' thing bottom right BACK to where it shows how many friends are online. thats more useful than a piece of text which you have to click. it shouldnt be too hard to get baclk the useful feature you used to have there.

[999999999]

Developers can choose to have Steam running to play their games or not. That is up to them.

The X was never an exit button. Steam > Exit or right-click Steam and exit were the only 2 ways there ever was to exit Steam.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by Yoda:

there is NO NEED for steam to run in the background

Doesn't Steam have to be access so the Steam Overlay is active? Often games use that, you know that, right?

Plus that the Cross is often a "close window" button, not a "close program" button.
When you close a window in Windows Explorer, you don't actually close the Windows Explorer program. Otherwise you wouldn't even have the taskbar at the bottom.

[cinedine]

The button is and always has been meant for closing the window, not the application.
It just happens that many applications will close down, too, because they don't do anything else.
Steam on the other hand has certain background processes likedownload scheduling and chat running.

If you want to close it, you can right click on the try icon or task bar. It's just one more click.

Minimizing to taskbar is not the same as closing BTW. You easily see it for yourself if you open a store page or some discussion and use both options. Minimizing will save the state. Closing won't.

[Yoda Halfpint]

then perhaps we should totally abandon accepted conventions as set by the os makers microsoft and stop calling the close button the close button. maybe call it the 'hide and waste your cpu and memory for no purpose' button? steam has no business doing ANYTHING when i am not playing a game or chatting using it. period. very few other things refuse to close totally when you click the close button. there should be no exceptions unless the makers of steam and origin (and windows 10 for that matter) are prepared to compensate us for wasting valuable computer ram and cpu by buying us ythe latest top end gaming hardware without us having to pay for it.

the thing was yes to close a window. when you close something its because you are not using it. it therefore does not need to be running without a window.. i have many other things where if i click close it closes but if i minimise it, it minimises to the taskbar and carries on working AS I INTEND IT TO. its only steam and origin i have that exhibit this behaviour of being reluctant to close.

[Crazy Tiger]

Every virusscanner also minimizes to the system tray by clicking the close button. Just an example. MSN Messenger in the past also did the same, just another example. Actually, most programs with a System Tray icon does this.

But you seem to misunderstand the accepted conventions. The close button does exactly that, it closes the window. Programs like Steam don't close completely to make sure that background processes (downloads, chats and other features) aren't closed unintentionally.

They may be processes that aren't important to you, but you're not the only user of the Steam Client.

[Dakuwan]

The "close" button, located at the top right of a window, does AS INTENDED. It closes the window.

[cinedine]

Originally posted by Yoda:

then perhaps we should totally abandon accepted conventions as set by the os makers microsoft and stop calling the close button the close button.

It CLOSES the WINDOW. Applications don't "close". They "exit". These are accpeted conventions.
Just because many programs happen to do both doesn't change it.

If you program a GUI you even have to set up the close action specifically to exit your application and you are doing it by listening to window events.

There is plenty of software that does not shut down if the window closes. You just happen not use it. Download managers, chat/VoIPs, de-/encoding, screen cappers, anti-virus, driver controllers, ...

[Yoda Halfpint]

i understand what you are saying. but it doesnt make it right behaviour. if i close a window IM NOT USING THE APPLICATION ANYMORE. therefore close should also close the application. most people are used to that behaviour, whether its the intent or not. they expect close window = close app. if the app requires extra steps to close that suggests sinister ulterior DATAMINING motives. i was under the impression the EU was outlawing that.

[999999999]

Originally posted by Yoda:

if the app requires extra steps to close that suggests sinister ulterior DATAMINING motives. i was under the impression the EU was outlawing that.

I like how you jump to that conclusion. Shows how much you know about Steam.

[Dakuwan]

Mouse over Steam, R click, Exit Steam...

[999999999]

Originally posted by Dakuwan:

Mouse over Steam, R click, Exit Steam...

Mentioned in my first post.

[cinedine]

Originally posted by Yoda:

if the app requires extra steps to close that suggests sinister ulterior DATAMINING motives. i was under the impression the EU was outlawing that.

Originally posted by Yoda:

there should be no exceptions unless the makers of steam and origin (and windows 10 for that matter) are prepared to compensate us for wasting valuable computer ram and cpu by buying us ythe latest top end gaming hardware without us having to pay for it.

Do you actually want to ridicule yourself and make people take you less serious?
It has been said multiple times already that Steam encompasses more than just the webclient. And some of it are background process.

I also fundamentally disagree with

Originally posted by Yoda:

most people are used to that behaviour, whether its the intent or not. they expect close window = close app.

Most people today are used to apps running all the time and never really shutdown. Especially Steam users should be used to Steam still running after the window closes. This is only the second thread I have ever seen regarding this.

[Yoda Halfpint]

why? if im not using chat or playing a game WHY DOES IT NEED TO BE IN THE BACVKGROUND?

updates: it checks when you run it. it can ask you to download and update - this would be useful to limited data plan connections. so it isnt updating that it needs to run. so why else? what legitimate use can it have being background if im not chatting or playing anything? i dont see one LEGITIMATE reason - but plenty of sneaky underhanded spyware reasons, such as hidden targetting advertising, maybe a 'feature' for the future?

[Dakuwan]

Is that the sound of keys jingling?

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by Yoda:

i understand what you are saying. but it doesnt make it right behaviour. if i close a window IM NOT USING THE APPLICATION ANYMORE. therefore close should also close the application. most people are used to that behaviour, whether its the intent or not. they expect close window = close app. if the app requires extra steps to close that suggests sinister ulterior DATAMINING motives. i was under the impression the EU was outlawing that.

Itseems you are projecting what you think to be what the majority thinks. Which is actually false.

As stated before by not just me, the close button has ALWAYS been a close window button. As I said, Windows Explorer is the main example of a program that does not exit when you close the window.
If you can't grasp that, you seem to not know anything about computers.

And the last remark about datamining is simply ridiculous.