So.. Scotland/The Scottish Flag is missing for Profiles?

[dava4444]

Hey Valve!

Bit offended tbh..
So Jersey Guernsey and the Isle of Man.. get flags.. but Scotland.. zip.. nada.. nothing?

I mean I realize not everyone has a grasp on geography..but Jersey and Guernsey are principalities of England (and technically Wales, although it is a historic Gael Country) and the Isle of Man (would have been, as part of Dal Riata) a principality of both Ireland and Scotland.

England and Scotland are the two fully legal countries in the Union. I am from the : town: Dumbarton in the :county: of West Dunbartonshire part of the :region/state: of Strathclyde in the COUNTRY of Scotland. Y'know I should lump in Canada the US and Japan together.. you all share the same defense budget, that must mean you are all the same country right? right?? and each one of those three is merely a state of that one country.. right?

pfftt.. I've had enough Americans talk down to recently on comment sections about Scottish Independence .. how dæ ye like them æpples!

I do not show my 'Country' because there is no option other than UK>Strathclyde. I am NOT displaying the 'Butcher's Apron' under any circumstance as it rings politically untrue of my identity.

STOP talking down to your customers who wish to support their COUNTRY: Scotland.

I enjoy the Saltire, Scotland's National Flag and also The Royal Standard. These should be options.. either or both even at the same time.

[aiusepsi]

Your geography (political geography?) is a bit off. Jersey, Guernsey and Man have their own country listing on Steam with flags because they're not a part of the UK; they're self-governing Crown dependencies, they've sort of almost independent states.

You'd have a point if you could select "England" as a country with flag, but you can't.

If you really want to stick a flag on your profile, perhaps the relatively new Scottish flag emoji would work for you: 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

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What's wrong wae Scotland am fae there near glesga and am proud to be

[dava4444]

@aiusepsi

The 'UK' is NOT a country.. it is a Kingdom of four constituent Countries*, much like France's Republic includes France, French Guiana and New Caledonia as constituent countries.


"Your geography (political geography?) is a bit off. Jersey, Guernsey and Man have their own country listing on Steam with flags because they're not a part of the UK; they're self-governing Crown dependencies, they've sort of almost independent states."

I dunno man.. are you saying Scotland doesn't have a government.. because. we do.

Either way, both Scotland and England should be on the profile listings independently, without the heavily connoted political leanings of supporting the Union.

Your sarcasm is noted @ black flag
however I do not support the Union, and as the Catalans have also used this flag with the motto 'live free or die'.. I think you are accidentally apt.

*Legally Scotland is a country, England is a country, Wales is a Principality, N.I. is undeclared due to no agreement from either side.

[cinedine]

Początkowo opublikowane przez dava4444:

The 'UK' is NOT a country.. it is a Kingdom of four constituent Countries*, much like France's Republic includes France, French Guiana and New Caledonia as constituent countries.

The sovereign country is called United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

However this country is governt internally doesn't matter. Just like any other country with dependencies, autonomes regions, federation states, and whatnot.

The Crown dependencies however are not part of the UK. They are a pretty special case as they are neither part of the UK nor sovereign countries in themselves. Similar to Aland (Finland) and Faroe (Denmark).

Your political views are irrelevant.

[dava4444]

Początkowo opublikowane przez cinedine:

The sovereign country is called United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

That's flatly false.

Like many Unionists.. just because you said something doesn't make it true.

And.. I point out this is not a debate on the merits or lack thereof them, of being part of the Union, it is whether or not Scots should be entitled to 'Show you Country' If they do not support the Union.

Scotland has never stopped being a Country, we have had our own legal system since the Act of Union.. and if you want to debate this further, please add me on here, I'll be glad to send you many links.

I retort: United what?.. what is United?

I feel it is not MY views that are irrelevant.

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Note: any further discussion will be to replied in Scots.

[aiusepsi]

Początkowo opublikowane przez dava4444:

dunno man.. are you saying Scotland doesn't have a government.. because. we do.

Pretty sure I didn't say that. But the Scottish government and Parliament were established by Act of the UK Parliament in Westminster and is ultimately subordinate to it. See for example, S28(7) of the Scotland Act 1998: "This section does not affect the power of the Parliament of the United Kingdom to make laws for Scotland."

Your sarcasm is noted @ black flag
however I do not support the Union, and as the Catalans have also used this flag with the motto 'live free or die'.. I think you are accidentally apt.

I wasn't being sarcastic, your OS/browser is just too old to display the emoji properly, apparently. The emojipedia page for it is here: https://emojipedia.org/flag-for-scotland/

Digging into it, I think that the list of countries on Steam is based on the ISO 3166-1 list of country codes; incidentally, the same list is what was used for the first batch of emoji flags, which is why the first batch of emoji flags didn't have Scottish or English flags. They have since added them, as an extension.

*Legally Scotland is a country, England is a country, Wales is a Principality, N.I. is undeclared due to no agreement from either side.

I am not a lawyer, but I could do with a citation here. As far as I was aware, legally, Wales does not exist; it was subsumed into England by virtue of the Laws in Wales Acts 1535 and 1542.

As for the status of England and Scotland, this is what the Union with England Act 1707 (an Act of the Parliament of the Kingdom of Scotland) has to say on the matter:

"That the Two Kingdoms of Scotland and England shall upon the first day of May next ensuing the date hereof and forever after be United into One Kingdom by the Name of Great Britain And that the Ensigns Armorial of the said United Kingdom be such as Her Majesty shall appoint and the Crosses of St Andrew and St George be conjoined in such manner as Her Majesty shall think fit and used in all Flags Banners Standards and Ensigns both at Sea and Land"

This suggests to me that England and Scotland ceased to exist as Kingdoms, in favour of the Kingdom of Great Britain.

[dava4444]

Początkowo opublikowane przez aiusepsi:

But the Scottish government and Parliament were established by Act of the UK Parliament in Westminster and is ultimately subordinate to it. See for example, S28(7) of the Scotland Act 1998: "This section does not affect the power of the Parliament of the United Kingdom to make laws for Scotland."

Ah cannæ agree mare.. thyt's the problem; "subordinate".

Początkowo opublikowane przez aiusepsi:

I wasn't being sarcastic, your OS/browser is just too old to display the emoji properly, apparently. The emojipedia page for it is here: https://emojipedia.org/flag-for-scotland/

Digging into it, I think that the list of countries on Steam is based on the ISO 3166-1 list of country codes; incidentally, the same list is what was used for the first batch of emoji flags, which is why the first batch of emoji flags didn't have Scottish or English flags. They have since added them, as an extension.

Fair dos.. Ah'm in Steam btw.

Początkowo opublikowane przez aiusepsi:

I am not a lawyer, but I could do with a citation here. As far as I was aware, legally, Wales does not exist; it was subsumed into England by virtue of the Laws in Wales Acts 1535 and 1542.

As for the status of England and Scotland, this is what the Union with England Act 1707 (an Act of the Parliament of the Kingdom of Scotland) has to say on the matter:

"That the Two Kingdoms of Scotland and England shall upon the first day of May next ensuing the date hereof and forever after be United into One Kingdom by the Name of Great Britain And that the Ensigns Armorial of the said United Kingdom be such as Her Majesty shall appoint and the Crosses of St Andrew and St George be conjoined in such manner as Her Majesty shall think fit and used in all Flags Banners Standards and Ensigns both at Sea and Land"

This suggests to me that England and Scotland ceased to exist as Kingdoms, in favour of the Kingdom of Great Britain.

Thyt's where we're no in agreement.. in ma case Ah g'uy disagree. We became a Union o' two countries, if no then how did and does Scotland huv oor ain legal system? see below.

Wales an' Berwick Act 1746

The borders o' Scotland/England an' Wales/England ur offically established.

Claim of Right Act 1689

Asserts the Sovereignty o' the Scottish People, which iys 'gran'fæthered' in tæ the Act of Union. As awe previous Scots Law wis preserved fur yon Act of Union.

Claim of Right 1989

"We, gathered as the Scottish Constitutional Convention, do hereby acknowledge the sovereign right of the Scottish people to determine the form of Government best suited to their needs, and do hereby declare and pledge that in all our actions and deliberations their interests shall be paramount.


We further declare and pledge that our actions and deliberations shall be directed to the following ends:

To agree a scheme for an Assembly or Parliament for Scotland;

To mobilise Scottish opinion and ensure the approval of the Scottish people for that scheme; and

To assert the right of the Scottish people to secure implementation of that scheme."

This wis the petition fur the new parlement in the late 80s early 90s. The wan we voted oan.


ANYHOO... Ah'm done weh this.. Steam iys NO the place fur this.. Ah jist wa'nt tæ relax an' play Prey but ma controllers oan the fritz weh yon latest update :/