Disable chat filter

[zaphodikus]

Is it possible that a year on we can get this feature?
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=837136309
Ability to turn off the client side of the filtering.

Reason:
1. When I am chatting to a friend in steam chat I want to be able to send hyperlinks to non steam content
2. When chatting to the same friend on a voice call there is no filtering, so how is this secure.
3. If I send a friend this picture
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=837140946
which is allowed and they type it in, I can still hijack their computer.. but friends don't do this, so all the filtering does is make it hard for honest people to have a proper conversation. And criminals who do this all the time can still dupe you just the same.
4. There is much less filtering in my profile chat, which gets seen by more people, so not sure how its more secure to filter one and not the other severely.

It's a weaker "security/protection" viewpoint - please allow chat filter disable. It only takes 2 minutes to do this kind of hijack if I wanted to, so it's not really doing anything other than buying time and making life for honest people harder, which is akin to running away when things get tough instead of facing up and resolving.

It's not like we are all minors.

[Black Blade]

Its to make the life of the abuser harder, making someone type something into there browser is much harder then getting them to press a link or copy paste it

On any case, cant you just send them the full link? why even send a shorten one?
Most links are not blocked for example:
google.com
imgur.com
abc.com
black4blade.com

none of these sites have any issue, as there not shorten that can be used to hide the site, and in a chat where you can press the link, and the letter limit is not that small why not just send them the full link?

[zaphodikus]

Originally posted by Black Blade:

Its to make the life of the abuser harder, making someone type something into there browser is much harder then getting them to press a link or copy paste it

On any case, cant you just send them the full link? why even send a shorten one?
Most links are not blocked for example:
google.com
imgur.com
abc.com
black4blade.com

none of these sites have any issue, as there not shorten that can be used to hide the site, and in a chat where you can press the link, and the letter limit is not that small why not just send them the full link?

Most
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This assumes you only use those social platforms, which is a filter. Until a year back imgur was blocked. Steam are effectively censoring Youtube links for no good reson other than they do not want to treat friends as friends.

Basically Steam does not understand how "trust works". I will not invite a new friend I met five minutes ago to send me a link to some malware, but someone I have know for 5 years and am really good friend with should be able to share links to their pr0n collection of beermats they collected and uploaded on their blog. Now for someone who is under-age, the filter makes sense because their judgement may be imparied when it comes to who is your friend. But to someone who is 40 years old, the same "trst" rul is not making very much sense.

Steam are merely covering their babies and not driving users into their platform, but instead saying , use skype/discord/teamspeak instead to chat and spread malware because it does not treat you like a baby. And we don't want the legal ♥♥♥♥ it would cascade, make it someone leses problem. THe law (aka society) also needs to be less stupid when it comes to holding Steam responsible when a breach starts on their turf. It's akin to abdication is my viewpoint, and I'm sticking with the abdication viewpoint.

[just.kamk]

Originally posted by zaphodikus:

Basically Steam does not understand how "trust works". I will not invite a new friend I met five minutes ago to send me a link to some malware, but someone I have know for 5 years and am really good friend with should be able to share links to their pr0n collection of beermats they collected and uploaded on their blog.

You won't, i won't, but... all those scammers and bots would. This isn't a "me" problem, this is a community problem.
Remember those times when unlimited accounts could spam like crazy? Or like it was for a while with accounts in general, spamming their malware links on every profile? I certainly don't miss those times.

Sure, it would be great to have no filter, but that's currently not a good solution either :/

[zaphodikus]

True - but I'm talking about chat. I never make friends or chat to spambots, and believe that if I'm mature enough to handle it, the chat should be transparent.

In Forums and groups I will rake you over the coals if you spam. I'll even friend a spammer sometimes just to be able to chat them and let them know that hey their account password just got leaked and they are a hijack victim now, Yes, I am the buy shooting back at the spammer. But a chat filter is different and serves a different purpose and thus involves how community and social trust works. I wonder if we can actually have a profile icon to show if someone actually uses a mobile authenticator regularly or not?

I may be a biggot in my viewpoint, but Steam have pretty much proved they are unable to engage with the "problem" by not even coming up to the table.

[Black Blade]

Originally posted by zaphodikus:

Most
....
This assumes you only use those social platforms, which is a filter. Until a year back imgur was blocked. Steam are effectively censoring Youtube links for no good reson other than they do not want to treat friends as friends.

Basically Steam does not understand how "trust works". I will not invite a new friend I met five minutes ago to send me a link to some malware, but someone I have know for 5 years and am really good friend with should be able to share links to their pr0n collection of beermats they collected and uploaded on their blog. Now for someone who is under-age, the filter makes sense because their judgement may be imparied when it comes to who is your friend. But to someone who is 40 years old, the same "trst" rul is not making very much sense.

Steam are merely covering their babies and not driving users into their platform, but instead saying , use skype/discord/teamspeak instead to chat and spread malware because it does not treat you like a baby. And we don't want the legal ♥♥♥♥ it would cascade, make it someone leses problem. THe law (aka society) also needs to be less stupid when it comes to holding Steam responsible when a breach starts on their turf. It's akin to abdication is my viewpoint, and I'm sticking with the abdication viewpoint.

First of all, most links are not blocked, don't use shorted links, and you are most likely going to have no block on the site you going to link, i really do not see where is the problem with that

Now i got to read the post on the top, from what they say its an error, and it dose not need to block that much, so its been look into

Over all how ever most sites are not blocked, i don't think i ever seen a YouTube video blocked, and Imgur i seen a while back more then a year, on an error that for some reason blocked part of the link

You need to understand that all the users that are been hijacked are not only babys or little kids, we are also talking abut adults, and big names out there that it happens to them
Remember after all the Niggran prince scam was meant for someone with a CC, so at least over 18

Some users fail and these thing, and it dose not harm them alone, so i do not think we need to just let them go down, as we are safe from not knowing
And as said i honslty did not get much of the problem you seem to talk like its huge, beyond very few times, that where bugs, and where fixed after a short time

Originally posted by zaphodikus:

True - but I'm talking about chat. I never make friends or chat to spambots, and believe that if I'm mature enough to handle it, the chat should be transparent.

In Forums and groups I will rake you over the coals if you spam. I'll even friend a spammer sometimes just to be able to chat them and let them know that hey their account password just got leaked and they are a hijack victim now, Yes, I am the buy shooting back at the spammer. But a chat filter is different and serves a different purpose and thus involves how community and social trust works. I wonder if we can actually have a profile icon to show if someone actually uses a mobile authenticator regularly or not?

I may be a biggot in my viewpoint, but Steam have pretty much proved they are unable to engage with the "problem" by not even coming up to the table.

They used to show who had Steam guard and who did not on the Steam Community badge
You know what happen? scammers target users that did not active it, as they where more easy to breach
so there not likely to show who is and who is not using any security

Valve said they prefer to fix issues, then talk abut fixing them, users are more then welcome to rise issues and problems, as well as ideas on the matter
And i think they did come to the table abut it not long ago with a post abut the 70,000 or something like that accounts stolen in a mouth no?

[zaphodikus]

It also blocks bit.ly link which I wanted to send to someone that I am friends with. If I was your friend and I sent you a link to some critical data I do not want it blocked. Alternatively I can type
b I t . l y / / D O N O T C L I C K.
Which would have worked. But I just find censorship is a bit tiring. I had no idea quite so many steam users already had qualified for a Charles Darwin award and been scammed in bulk. Don't want that, I was not thinking of what happens when it goes wrong.

[Black Blade]

Originally posted by zaphodikus:

It also blocks bit.ly link which I wanted to send to someone that I am friends with. If I was your friend and I sent you a link to some critical data I do not want it blocked. Alternatively I can type
b I t . l y / / D O N O T C L I C K.
Which would have worked. But I just find censorship is a bit tiring. I had no idea quite so many steam users already had qualified for a Charles Darwin award and been scammed in bulk. Don't want that, I was not thinking of what happens when it goes wrong.

Is that not a shorten link? i may be wrong but as much as i am aware that is what it is, cant you just send the link with out shortening it?

[behrends1999]

ok

[zaphodikus]

"We" are mates, and wanted the link to appear on a website, so I was sending content to appear on a blog post, but the filter censored our content.
Nobody who wants to share the link often and often puts long links on blogs/webs these days, it's not pro. Short or long, redirections are redirections. Anyway I care no longer, since the filter is so basic a patient 8 year old can work around it and still hack it, as they do.

[Black Blade]

Originally posted by zaphodikus:

"We" are mates, and wanted the link to appear on a website, so I was sending content to appear on a blog post, but the filter censored our content.
Nobody who wants to share the link often and often puts long links on blogs/webs these days, it's not pro. Short or long, redirections are redirections. Anyway I care no longer, since the filter is so basic a patient 8 year old can work around it and still hack it, as they do.

But they make it look suspisios
shorten links many times are used to hide to where it sends you, and also bypass the link filter cross all of them

I do understand you, but i do not think its worth the risk to all the commuinty as a whole

[zaphodikus]

True. Inconvenient, but risky.
Steam chat is pretty simplistic, but it gets you connected, a bit like texting.