"Steam Game Mode" :: Suggestions / Ideas

Gwarsbane 2017. jan. 22., 10:09

Again as has been said, its up to the OS to do this because a program like Steam does not have all the access thats needed.

Also from my understanding the game mode thats going into windows 10 will not just detect games from their windows store. It will be able to detect games from any distribution system. Steam, GOG, Origin and so on and even those not on a distribution system. As you will be able to tell it that when you are running a certain exe to go into game mode.

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Spanky 2017. jan. 22., 19:12

Gwarsbane eredeti hozzászólása:
Again as has been said, its up to the OS to do this because a program like Steam does not have all the access thats needed.

Also from my understanding the game mode thats going into windows 10 will not just detect games from their windows store. It will be able to detect games from any distribution system. Steam, GOG, Origin and so on and even those not on a distribution system. As you will be able to tell it that when you are running a certain exe to go into game mode.

Really? No news about that where I'm from. I'm not sure if you have all the info or you just think that your right. I'm certain that the Steam client would do a good job of getting my games to work with the Steam client and its games. I know that Microsoft will try to create a Windows PC feature that would benefit most gamers but as I have a choice, I would use the application that suites me best for what I'm doing. The Steam application need only provide it.

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76561198001062896 2017. jan. 22., 20:41

honestly unless you run tons and tons of useless crap in the background, a gaming mode will make no difference than what a CCleaner could do or what you can do by closing down applications from Task Manager.

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Spanky 2017. jan. 22., 22:21

A gaming mode needs to be more than just about closing and reducing programs running while gaming. The best types of programs reduce their load while not in use. Not very many programs do that. Windows 10 does that a little bit, but not much.

Most programs have start up application and background service that comes along with it, for the user’s benefit, but don't reduce their load on the PC while not in use. Since it's up to the user to make that choice, most programs don't even give a choice in the matter. Either the programs are on all the time or the program won't work if the start up is removed and services are shutdown. That's were people get the idea to turn off start-up applications and services at boot, but forget that it's only temporary and go to use the program before they realize that they must turn things back on and probably restart the PC too.

Power options in the Windows only does so much and nothing for the GPU.

Overclocking gives people headaches, (the real kind to)

The best approach to getting more from the whole PC and not changing the user environment settings, which Windows 10 game mode probably will do. When a program is all I need that removes the left over temp cache memory from programs and services that have been temporarily disabled; increase the GPU power; speed up memory and drive access times by optimizing the game file telemetry on the drive where the game runs; give a boost to the network by setting advanced timing.

There are so many things that should be done for the user to have a better time playing games. The different types of users are what makes for the whole idea of a game mode greater. WOW! What a great idea.

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Zefar 2017. jan. 22., 22:33

With enough RAM(Lets say 12-16 GB RAM) and putting your OS on a SSD disk as well as putting the game on a SSD disk as well you won't have much use for a Gaming mode. Probably none at all even.

Also there could be an issue with increasing GPU power. If some people have overclocked their GPU and the Game mode decides to buff it up even more it could result in a dead graphic card. Same goes for anything else it'll try to boost on a Hardware level.

So if your PC is a bit dated and can't do things as effectively as it did in the start, you could invest some money on an 256 GB SSD and put your OS on it. This will speed up your computer quite a bit.

Still, this feature is up to Microsoft to put in. As I do not believe Microsoft would like it if the biggest gaming platform decides to shut down programs and such that are running in the background for windows users.

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Spanky 2017. jan. 22., 22:41

Maybe Microsoft won't focus much on the program (Steam client) operation while gaming just the game that's being played?

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Zefar 2017. jan. 22., 23:21

SquirrlyNuts eredeti hozzászólása:
Maybe Microsoft won't focus much on the program (Steam client) operation while gaming just the game that's being played?

Microsoft probably wouldn't start to shut down programs just because Steam is active.

Also my point was more about if Steam or rather Valve made the Gaming Mode for Steam and made Steam shut down a lot of background programs, Microsoft probably would want to have a word with Valve about it.

But this gaming mode might only affect poor PCs where as any decent gaming PC won't find any use for it.

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Gwarsbane 2017. jan. 22., 23:22

"Now we know what Microsoft’s upcoming ‘Game Mode’ for Windows 10 will do

By Joel Hruska on January 18, 2017 at 7:36 am "

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/242845-now-know-microsofts-upcoming-game-mode-windows-10-will

And now I can't seem to find any place saying that it will work for all games, they are only saying it will just work for windows 10 exclusive UWP games.

Legutóbb szerkesztette: Gwarsbane; 2017. jan. 22., 23:24

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Spanky 2017. jan. 22., 23:35

that's the weird thing though. Gaming PC's are a

and typically preform poorly when doing things other than gaming. There are more people getting into gaming with PC that are not PC game machine tricked out. I use my PC generally is all settings including school and work. I need game mode.

@Gwarsbane
http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-central-best-ces-2017-awards search term "game mode"

Legutóbb szerkesztette: Spanky; 2017. jan. 22., 23:38

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Gwarsbane 2017. jan. 23., 10:50

I went to the page you posted and searched game mode and nothing came up.

As to you needing a game mode.... no you don't. As the article I posted says, most modern computers won't even notice the stuff thats being turned off by the OS.

"But a new investigation suggests the new feature won’t make much difference for the vast majority of Windows 10 gamers."

And yet again, Steam can not and will not shutoff the stuff that an OS can and does because IT DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS to all that stuff and no software should ever have low level access to stuff in the OS.

Its the Operating System that has access to all that stuff, and its the Operating System that has to turn it on and off.

I personally go and shut off a bunch of stuff the OS does, but thats because I don't want it running at all, and I know my OS good enough, that I don't mind tinkering with it when I first install it to get it running just the way I like it. Even if I was to leave everything running like it does from the first install, my gaming experience would not be different then if there was a "game mode" for my OS.

I use my system for everything also. Gaming, videos, music, movies, tv shows, word processing, and lots of other stuff. My system is also on average over 5 years old. Anything newer and I would not notice any of the issues I have now. Even the OS doesn't matter, all my games work on it, and thats all that matters.

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Spanky 2017. jan. 23., 12:11

If you can't get this website to search here is the search address: https://www.bing.com/search?q=game+mode+site%3Awww.windowscentral.com ? nothing comes up eh? Yeah, because your wrong. And I do need game mode. What Windows 10 feature will do is up to the user to turn it on. Just like any Performance utilities out there does, possibly more then them and maybe even less, but again it's up to the User to decide to use it. If the application has permission problem, I think the application needs and better operator.

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cinedine 2017. jan. 23., 12:34

SquirrlyNuts eredeti hozzászólása:
If you can't get this website to search here is the search address: https://www.bing.com/search?q=game+mode+site%3Awww.windowscentral.com ? nothing comes up eh? Yeah, because your wrong. And I do need game mode. What Windows 10 feature will do is up to the user to turn it on. Just like any Performance utilities out there does, possibly more then them and maybe even less, but again it's up to the User to decide to use it. If the application has permission problem, I think the application needs and better operator.

And Steam's "Game Mode" shall be activated all the time? Yeah, no. You'd have to activate it manually, too. Probably even per game as I don't want everything shut down jsut because I idle an idle game in the background.

And NO application should have more rights than it needs to. Especially not something like Steam that is on of the top targets for hackers. Elevated rights could prove fatal if the right exploit is found.
That's like your new calculator app for Android requiring root access, internet privileges, voice privileges, camera priviliges and whole bunch of other stuff aboslutely not needed to total two numbers.

Either way, if you get anything close to a significant performance boost by this, you have way too much stuff running concurrently, anyway.

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Spanky 2017. jan. 23., 13:08

Well, Steam has reasons why they created their hardware. Many of which run on a OS. More importantly, with dedicated hardware permissions. What the hardware doesn't need is more than what the hardware can do. And those hardware devices are probably getting hacked more then the software client. I don't think that it would be a problem if a Gaming client developed a thing that would configure hardware and at the same time having a client application request that the user may experience better game play if they didn't have some things on which are not required for game play and still respect the system requirements.

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