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Edit: Apparently it's against the SSA: "You are entitled to use the Software for your own personal use, but you are not entitled to: (i) sell, grant a security interest in or transfer reproductions of the Software to other parties in any way, nor to rent, lease or license the Software to others without the prior written consent of Valve, except to the extent expressly permitted elsewhere in this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use)"
Source: http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement
No one is stopping you from trading with steam wallet credit.
So basically...what you are saying...is everyone who's smart should buy bundles and gifts, and sell externally....on a reputable site after the sale ends...and then between January and Summer Sale, make a huge profit?
http://www.steamtrades.com/forum
etc...
When you try to trade/sell games you'll notice that everyone involved with trading is well aware of all discounts, bundles, etc. on Steam and other sites. There's no huge profit in trading. ;)
Steam Subscriber Agreement: http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/
Steam Trading Policy: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9958-MJDG-3003
Giftcards are not taxable. A $50 Steam wallet card is still $50. It is a 1/1 transfer.
A store gift card like a $20 Best Buy card isn't taxed either, but in this situation the items you buy in the store ( and possibly on-line) are taxed.
Thanks for this...so basically....the smart ones are taking advantage of this "system" (steam always profits with their fees), but the one's who are smart use this market in hopes to make money to get games for free. Buy low sell high. Economics. (Same exact thing as Diablo 3 RMAH)....
and to say that "selling" is against "trading" policy....wtf? It's like they are encouraging people to sell games from steam to avoid all the fees of "trading".....
That's why there's no giftcards, or the ability to use the wallet in trade....
and I'm starting to become very weary of my account. Basically it's come to my attention, that all the games I own, and bought do not belong to me. They belong to an account, like a game account on WoW, and can be terminated/banned for any little thing that Steam is basically encouraging on doing....very odd.....
What ever happened to CD's in cases that anyone could own? Oh yeah, those are consoles, but those are more expensive because Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are more greedy than Valve even is.
(I edited my first reply, wasn't aware that selling games from your inventory is against the SSA. Seems to be widely ignored.^^)
No fees for direct trading.
The market is currently limited to TF2 items and it is unknown if it will be allowed for game trading yet.
While selling games seems to be ignored, it is also discouraged. Steam offers no protection to trades that happen outside their trade system.
It's pretty easy to see they are against it too. Considering you can't use the steam wallet or buy online gift cards in exchange for games.
The way it's set up now...it's far more greedy than even Blizzard was with Diablo 3's RMAH (same exact thing)
Difference is I feel unsecure now more than ever. I don't to buy games on steam as I don't own the rights to the game, and people are encouraged to make a profit off their market, and those people get any game for free. (especially the one's using scripting programs)
It's actually safer now to pirate a game, because you will always have access to those files. Through steam...better luck next time if you lose your account or get banned?
Which is another odd question...why don't we have copies of the games we buy? oh right, to stop pirating....so basically by taking away ownership of the game, you are preventing those from obtaining ownership.
I use steam wallet credit for trading quite frequently. You can't transfer it directly to other accounts but nobody is stopping me from buying someone a game of his choice and trade it for one of his games.[/quote]
"It's actually safer to BUY A DRM-FREE GAME, because you will always have access to those files." (fixed :P )
Your logic doesn't make any sense here. How about you buy the game without Steam Wallet so you don't lock your money in with steam? And the Steam gift cards are subject to tax, and can only be obtained in store, meaning...tax + gas + time.
Meaning the cost of a card is higher than the actual value. This applies to all storebought giftcards. Very stupid to buy a giftcard or receive one. Cash is the best, or linking your credit card/paypal (for some reason they are very against paypal). You can also send money directly to anyone without charge by hitting (personal transfer), meaning you can send money directly from your credit card bank to anyone's email via pay pal.
No. Gift cards are not taxed. Ever. The products you buy with them in store/on-line can depending on your states laws.
If someone is going to buy a Steam game and doesn't have a credit card, they can use Steam wallet cards. It is an alterative currency for Steam.
Ah I see. Still doesn't avoid the time/cost to obtain one, and their partnership with these two companies, instead of valueing their customers to allow online giftcard buying (or amazon)
I never bought gift cards, I prefer other payment methods too. But what you pay is what you get. Pay $50 cash for a $50 gift card and use the code to put $50 in your Steam wallet.
Tax is already included in all store prices on Steam and elsewhere.
If it is a gift and you are there buying other gifts, I see no reason why not.
What about those under 18 with no credit cards? They can only use a Steam wallet card or a pre-paid visa. The visa charges extra while the giftcard does not.