Steam notes not saving

[mfj]

I've been using the notes feature quite a bit recently whilst playing Valheim, but all of a sudden they've stopped saving. I noticed a portion was missing from the last time I used the notes tab, and so I tried adding some more to see if it would happen again, and it did.

Does anyone know why this is? I just tried the "new note" button in the bottom left and those notes seem to be saving. Can anyone confirm if there's just a max amount you can type per "note"? thanks

Edit: Just thought I'd put this up here for anyone looking for a decent workaround:

The only way I've been able to make it "save" every time, is to open the notes feature, type whatever you need into it, ctrl c what you've just typed, close the notes feature, and then go to the part that probably didn't save and paste it back - oh and also close the notes bit after you've pasted the text that didn't save. Every time I've tried this, and re-opened the notes bit, what I pasted is all in there.

I know it's more just brute force than a solution, but if you're using the notes feature to have quick access to what you've previously written, then this at least lets you do that, it just adds an extra step to writing part

[Rancid Raccoon]

I'm glad more and more people are commenting on this. Hopefully it will get noticed by Valve and patched soon.

[frugal1ty]

Автор сообщения: Glup ♥♥♥♥♥♥

The only 'Fix' I can recommend for the time being, is to not have multiple notes for one game. Just cram everything into one Note file. Higher chance that Steam will save it to the cloud.

I only have one note file and it still does this. This is so annoying. Having a save button would probably already fix it.

[Lily ❤]

This happens to me too. Regardless of number of notes. Seemingly regardless of how I close the game. Sometimes it will save a word or two. This happens like 25% of the time I use the feature. I should probably switch to using another program, but I keep hoping the issue will get fixed and it does not. It is very frustrating.

[Liliel]

I've been having this issue lately as well.
Storage space on PC and cloud is well and good and I have a fast internet connection, so shouldn't be because of those.
First noticed while playing Slime Rancher 2 and thought it might be related to the game being a memory hog, but now it's been happening with Vampire Survivors and Terraria as well, so wasn't that.
It's also not the amount of notes imo, as it happened in the very first note I did on VS which was also a very short one to boot.

It's happening so often now and is super frustrating, I hope they manage to fix this because I really liked the overlay notes feature, but had to swap to a notepad for now.

[Rancid Raccoon]

I initially thought it was an issue with the cloud not saving my most recent notes before exiting the game, but I made notes in Dead Rising Deluxe Remastered and played for quite a while. When I launched the game again, all the notes were gone. So it just seems to be whenever Steam feels like saving them or not, regardless of how long ago I made the notes.

[Destin Skye]

I had this issue crop up again last night. Saved only a portion of the note but not the other stuff I added later, one sentence was cut off mid-sentence which tells me that whatever sync interval Steam uses for the notes happened as I was writing that sentence.

Seems to be an issue where the Notes are not syncing very quickly, perhaps only syncing every 15 minutes, 30 minutes?

[Atlas47]

Same here. I used notes for the first time while trying to find out what was happening in my KSP save and I had the notes erase multiple times. There's no feedback on when it's saved, and the notes disappear when exiting/relaunching a game as well as when just opening up the steam chat window to paste them to a friend.

[mfj]

The only way I've been able to make it "save" every time, is to open the notes feature, type whatever you need into it, ctrl c what you've just typed, close the notes feature, and then go to the part that probably didn't save and paste it back - oh and also close the notes bit after you've pasted the text that didn't save. Every time I've tried this, and re-opened the notes bit, what I pasted is all in there.


I know it's more just brute force than a solution, but if you're using the notes feature to have quick access to what you've previously written, then this at least lets you do that, it just adds an extra step to writing part

[Destin Skye]

Автор сообщения: mfj

The only way I've been able to make it "save" every time, is to open the notes feature, type whatever you need into it, ctrl c what you've just typed, close the notes feature, and then go to the part that probably didn't save and paste it back - oh and also close the notes bit after you've pasted the text that didn't save. Every time I've tried this, and re-opened the notes bit, what I pasted is all in there.


I know it's more just brute force than a solution, but if you're using the notes feature to have quick access to what you've previously written, then this at least lets you do that, it just adds an extra step to writing part

Thank you!!

It worked!! Now I can go to bed, haha!

[crunchyfrog]

The problem with any system here on Steam is it's ALL dependent on servers.

For the most part it ain't a problem, but for things like this it really is, because when there's errors or congestion (the biggest problem that always goes on with Steam) it won't work. It either won't retrieve your data or it won't save.

For something as simple as this you are FAR better off either using old fashioned pen and paper, or simply CTRL C/V copy and pasting it to your desktop as a text file generally.

It's no big distraction.

[Muut]

Автор сообщения: crunchyfrog

The problem with any system here on Steam is it's ALL dependent on servers.

For the most part it ain't a problem, but for things like this it really is, because when there's errors or congestion (the biggest problem that always goes on with Steam) it won't work. It either won't retrieve your data or it won't save.

Notes get stored on the local disk, and I assume that that's done before they're uploaded to the cloud (would be crazy if it was the reverse). Seems to me that there's some buggy sync code going on which then later overwrites the local file with the half-complete remote one.

Автор сообщения: crunchyfrog

For something as simple as this you are FAR better off either using old fashioned pen and paper, or simply CTRL C/V copy and pasting it to your desktop as a text file generally.

Sadly not all games play nice with alt-tab, which is why notes is (was) such a nice feature.

[mfj]

Автор сообщения: Destin Skye

Thank you!!

It worked!! Now I can go to bed, haha!

no problem :)

[Rancid Raccoon]

Автор сообщения: mfj

The only way I've been able to make it "save" every time, is to open the notes feature, type whatever you need into it, ctrl c what you've just typed, close the notes feature, and then go to the part that probably didn't save and paste it back - oh and also close the notes bit after you've pasted the text that didn't save. Every time I've tried this, and re-opened the notes bit, what I pasted is all in there.


I know it's more just brute force than a solution, but if you're using the notes feature to have quick access to what you've previously written, then this at least lets you do that, it just adds an extra step to writing part

When I was playing Dead Rising, I made a note, then closed out of Notes and re-opened it in the steam overlay, and seen it saved my notes. I closed out and re-opened another two times to be sure.

Then when I closed out of the game and restarted it, my notes were gone again. To me it really just feels like random.

[Gandalf]

Happens to me too. Totally infuriating. Completely useless. Unfortunate, because it's a good idea and quite useful for some games. Just totally terrible implementation if it can't reliably do the most basic, primary function.

My solution: Use something else (as much as it would be great if it didn't have this issue). There are plenty of options that actually work and aren't mickey mouse like this.

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I can just imagine the release process for this app:

QA: But it doesn't work.
Manager: Release it anyway. They'll never know.

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[Sigh] You had one job!

Now crunchyfrog's post above about the primary cause being the Steam server dependence is the likely issue here. Yet others can manage to develop working apps: Google Docs, Microsoft online, among many others. And somehow Steam can manage to have this discussions forum work reliably with what we're posting here and editing and this is using their server network so why can't they manage the same reliability with the Notes app?

And frankly, I don't see why this can't just remain a local file since it already saves a local instance of this on the file-system. Also, Screenshots are local. Why even force this into the cloud if such inclusion introduces this unreliability?

[Destin Skye]

I've tried the suggestion of copying everything and then pasting it right back in and that has resulted in it syncing or saving every time since. So, to me that's a workaround solution.

But I also keep a text file of it on my desktop as a backup. Just in case. ;-)