GOTY Edition's on Steam that don't include all DLC? False advertising that should be removed.

[Wolfman-RIP]

On steam sale today is Borderlands 2 GOTY edition. The strange thing about this GOTY edition is it's missing a lot of DLC including DLC that adds content to the game. The missing DLC when added also doubles the total cost of getting the full advertised package. This is the first and only example of a GOTY edition that doesn't include ALL DLC. I believe this to be wrong or in error.

All GOTY edition's of games on steam include ALL a games DLC. Not including all DLC under the GOTY tag is blantant false advertising. The GOTY edition tag should be removed from borderlands 2 on that basis as anything less then that is setting a terrible precedent that completely destroys the meaning of GOTY edition.

Historically GOTY edition's included the full game + ALL DLC. Borderlands 2 GOTY Edition is the ONLY title to break this rule.

The GOTY tag needs to be removed ASAP or all the missing DLC should be added to the GOTY edition. Anything less then these actions is condoning the deception of millions of steam users.

[Wolfman-RIP]

Publicado originalmente por Satoru:

Publicado originalmente por Wolfman-RIP:

My info is correct. If I'm wrong then name me one GOTY edition on steam other then Borderlands 2 that doesn't include all it's DLC?

Last time i checked this is the first example of any title not including all DLC in it's GOTY edition.

You didn't check hard enough

http://www.amazon.com/Sid-Meiers-Civilization-Edition-Download/dp/B005OSTWWK

which includes

Civilization Pack: Babylon, All 4 Cradle of Civilization Map Packs Double Civilization and Scenario Pack: Spain and Inca, Civilization and Scenario Pack: Polynesia, Civilization and Scenario Pack: Denmark - The Vikings, Explorer’s Map Pack, Official Digital Soundtrack.

GOTY doesn't MEAN anything. It's not a standardized or protected term. It's just 'a fancy name'

It's NOT false advertising

On STEAM. I would complain on Amazon's forum about that too as they are selling a Gold Edition as a GOTY edition.

When games sold as GOTY edition include all DLC as standard for the last few years or at least all the DLC that can be obtained through that store. A game being sold under that tag that excludes a significant amount of DLC is using false advertising or at the very least making a attempt to decieve people which as far as i am conserned is exactly the same thing. GOTY editions have included all DLC for the last few years. As far as i am conserned Borderlands 2 GOTY edition is using the GOTY tag as a way to decieve people into thinking they are getting the same deal as most or all other GOTY editions that have been released on steam.

It's exactly the same as buying a season pass to a game only to find that all the DLC for that season isn't even included. :P

When the general public come to expect a certain standard tied to a advertising claim that's been set over the course of years then it can be false adverising under the laws of certain countries to not keep to that standard.

The fact is if the publisher was being completely honest with themselves and steam account holders they would of called that bundle Borderlands 2 Gold Edition. Save the GOTY edition for when they plan on selling a bundle that at least includes all game content.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Publicado originalmente por Wolfman-RIP:

The fact is if the publisher was being completely honest with themselves and steam uers they would of called that bundle Borderlands 2 Gold Edition. Save the GOTY edition for when they plan on crerating a bundle that at the very least includes all game content.

They are being honest. Some just don't want to read and assume things are they way they want them to be.

Power of Seven there has it right.

"The buyer should read carefully what they are buying and what's included. It should go without saying that everybody needs to pay attention to what's being offered in any money transaction--and I'm talking about anything and not just Steam sales."

[Uueerdo]

Publicado originalmente por Wolfman-RIP:

If that was the case then GOTY editions would not include any dlc and would just call it a GOTY edition without adding a thing.

That does not follow. There is no reason they would be restricted from doing so.

Publicado originalmente por Wolfman-RIP:

The standard has been set that GOTY edition's include all DLC with very minor exceptions. (such as horse armor)

Satoru beat me to the Dawn of War example....thought he didn't elaborate that Dawn of War went through "goty", "gold", and "platinum" before it finally ended with a "complete."

Publicado originalmente por Wolfman-RIP:

The GOTY edition tag has been exclusivly used for years as a tag to advertise main game + all DLC. That is the accepted standard that has been set over the last few years. When gamers say they are waiting for the GOTY edition it's to get the full game + all DLC.

I would agree with what you say about the expectation behind "waiting for the GOTY edition". However, those same people are not going to avoid a "gold|complete|ultimate" edition because it lacks the GotY moniker. GotY in this case is not intended as a literal statement.

Publicado originalmente por Wolfman-RIP:

They may not have set the definition in the oxford dictionary yet but if they had done by now it would be accepted that GOTY edition = A game sold with all it's DLC.

If they had set it the way you want it, or how the term has actually been used since it came into common use?

[tmwfte]

Publicado originalmente por Wolfman-RIP:

On STEAM.

Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War.
Guild Wars
The aforementioned Oblivion
Tribes: Ascend

The Civ V Game of the Year edition was on Steam for a while. It was superseded by the Gold Edition a bit after Gods & Kings came out. For awhile, I'm relatively certain there were both the GOTY and Gold editions available for purchase at the same time on Steam.

As much as you desperately want to cleave to some sort of mythical "industry standard" in order to further foment your rage, what you expect and what happens in practice are two entirely different things.

[Wolfman-RIP]

And for all the people making the completely silly argument that people just need to read, try going into a coffee shop, ordering a coffee and not getting a cup with it. See how happy you are with that service. But the cup was never mentioned when I ordered it so why didn't you read closer? Some things are sold with reasonable expectations and it's not a valid response to blame the customer when the expectations aren't met.

People have come to expect a reasonable standard when a store is selling a GOTY edition of any game. Most would not expect a significantly portion of DLC to be excluded including a level cap increase. At the very least it's expected that all content DLC is included in a GOTY edition. Unfornetly certain publishers have broken with consumer expectations to try fool people into thinking they are paying for all that games content.

There are already complaints on the borderlands 2 forums from people who were duped by the deceptive marketing. Call that what you want but i call that bad business practice from both borderlands's 2 publisher and valve for letting them use the GOTY tag for a bundle that does not meet that expectation by a large margin.

[Uueerdo]

Publicado originalmente por tmwfte:

... to further foment [his] rage...

Seems to about sum things up.

[Satoru]

The complain to the publisher who makes up these monikers

Steam sells what the publishers give them. Just like any other store.

If you have an issue with a moniker go complain to the publisher.

GOTY is NOT a regulated term. It can mean ANYTHING. No matter what you "think" it means is not relevant.

The store page is explicit in what you get when you purchase an item. If people can't read that isn't steams fault. Steam can't read your mind and be your nanny when buying games. You have a brain. Use it.

There is no false advertising.

[joey45x]

Publicado originalmente por Satoru:

The complain to the publisher who makes up these monikers

Steam sells what the publishers give them. Just like any other store.

If you have an issue with a moniker go complain to the publisher.

GOTY is NOT a regulated term. It can mean ANYTHING. No matter what you "think" it means is not relevant.

The store page is explicit in what you get when you purchase an item. If people can't read that isn't steams fault. Steam can't read your mind and be your nanny when buying games. You have a brain. Use it.

There is no false advertising.

This is completely right.