why does g2a sell cheap steam keys?

Sarracenae 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 12:32

What does legit reseller mean? Are you trying to get Valve in trouble over it's distribution agreements, and EC competition law. I'd be careful over what you imply in your comments. As everyone knows you are not allowed to restrict the markets to which a reseller can sell, or partake in any form of reseller price maintenance within the EU.

For the record i don't believe Valve/Steam are involved in either.

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Sarracenae 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 12:36

引用自 Dagnabbit：
引用自 STRX：
There is a difference between an unauthorized seller and an illegal retailer. People who sell games, music, movies etc... on eBay or Amazon are not authorized by Ubisoft, Warner Bros or Sony Records but would that make eBay or Amazon illegal retailers?

The questionable legality of the sales does NOT come from being unauthorized. it DOES come from the method of acquisition of the goods being resold, and the people being cheated by them.

You can defend your precious reseller all you like, the FACT remains that they are of dubious legality. The only thing protecting them is the fact hat they're located in an eastern European country where the authorities DON'T CARE and where it's very hard for the companies affected by it to bring legal challenges.

You are correct in one point at least, the fact that they are located in an eastern European country which is a member state of the EU is why they are allowed to do what they do.

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Satoru 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 12:37

引用自 Sarracenae：
What does legit reseller mean?

Means you get keys directly from the developer/publisher

As opposed to say you know, tricking devs into giving you keys then reselling them on your store, then pretending "oh well we didnt know those are just users' and wash your hands of it.

Ifyou operate like an MLM then don't expect to be called 'legitimate'.

最後修改者：Satoru; 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 12:38

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Satoru 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 12:41

引用自 STRX：
Ubisoft would prefer you to buy games from Uplay but are they going to stop people buying games from GameStop, GamersGate, no because they still make money, EA Would prefer you to buy games from Origin but... you get the idea.

yes and devs woudl prefer that you didn't say, lie to them that you're a reviewer then resell those keys on a shady cd-key site. In that case they get ZERO money

But that's all 'legit' of course right? Because "oh we didn't know it was our users doing it". Yep just our users scamming devs, not us. No other legit reseller has this problem but we are totally legit. Yep. Nothign shady going on here. Look away from the scren

最後修改者：Satoru; 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 12:41

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Sarracenae 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 12:44

引用自 Satoru：
引用自 Sarracenae：
What does legit reseller mean?

Means you get keys directly from the developer/publisher

As opposed to say you know, tricking devs into giving you keys then reselling them on your store, then pretending "oh well we didnt know those are just users' and wash your hands of it.

Ifyou operate like an MLM then don't expect to be called 'legitimate'.

Are you suggesting they get their keys from a "legit" reseller and pay them a kickback for it?

最後修改者：Sarracenae; 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 12:46

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Dagnabbit 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 12:47

引用自 STRX：
引用自 Dagnabbit：

The questionable legality of the sales does NOT come from being unauthorized. it DOES come from the method of acquisition of the goods being resold, and the people being cheated by them.

You can defend your precious reseller all you like, the FACT remains that they are of dubious legality. The only thing protecting them is the fact hat they're located in an eastern European country where the authorities DON'T CARE and where it's very hard for the companies affected by it to bring legal challenges.
Governments could easily stop people accessing G2A's website and could easily press charges, Valve could stop allowing their games to be activated via a key but are they going to, no because they still make loads of money. Steam would prefer you to buy games via the Steam Store because it makes them more money, but are they going to stop people activating Valve games on Steam via keys, no because they still make money. Ubisoft would prefer you to buy games from Uplay but are they going to stop people buying games from GameStop, GamersGate, no because they still make money, EA Would prefer you to buy games from Origin but... you get the idea.

I've argued brick walls that were less dense. I'm done here. You can sit in your pool of ignorance and stupid. Enjoy.

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Satoru 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 12:47

引用自 Sarracenae：
Are you suggesting they get their keys from a legal reseller and pay them a kickback for it?

http://www.polygon.com/2014/10/1/6882275/free-steam-game-scam

They defer all responsiblity for scams as 'oh those are independent resellers that we have no control over'. That's how MLMs operate. They're not responsible for their independent resellers scamming people.

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Satoru 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 12:52

引用自 STRX：
Still rambling on about how apparently G2A scammed a dev even though in the article you presented it actually said that users did that

And magically no other legitimate resllers does this do they?

How facinating....

It's almost as if you know, legit resellers don't have to rely on outside sources to sell you a game!

are as I and 'Sarracenae' have both proved your point wrong, you cannot blame a retailer for users selling bad products.

How ironic how that site doesnt care if their users rip you off.

steam and amazon dont sell your bad keys stolen from devs. Amazing how 'legit' resellers work isn't it?

Again with your logic eBay,

Steam already tells you not to purchase from ebay as they are not authorized resellers and you can't guarantee that the game you get will not already be used or activated.

Amazon and even Steam are all illegitimate because you could get scammed on all 3

If you purchase directly off of Amazon or Steam you are not getting 'scammed'.

Try again.

最後修改者：Satoru; 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 12:53

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Sarracenae 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 12:59

Just like ebay take no legal responsibility for people selling fake items.

I have no issue with your views, just don't miss represent the legality of these resellers. Incase you are wondering the reason why valve probably don't attempt to do anything is because if they were to be found in breach of breaking EU competition law by trying to restrict distributors from eastern EU countries they could be fined up to 10% of their global profits + damages.

最後修改者：Sarracenae; 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 1:00

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Satoru 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 1:07

https://twitter.com/devolverdigital/status/466577590606520320

Yep they're totally legit right?

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Satoru 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 1:12

引用自 STRX：
Are you seriously suggesting that a bad product has never been sold on Amazon or eBay, let me inform you; it happens all the time on eBay or Amazon

And again are we not reading the part where Steam doesn't support ebay.

Amazon is an authorized reseller. Games purchased from Amazon directly are 100% authorized.

f you buy direct from G2A you will always get a working key and even if you do buy from a user and you get a bad key you can just contact support and they will give you a refund or another key.

Ah yes when you buy their 'insurance' of Shield. Note that no other authorized reseller forces you to BUY INSURANCE because they have no guarantees about the cd-key they're selling you.

Have you ever even brought a game from G2A

I purchase from authorized resellers because saving a few bucks isnt wroth the headache of being scammed and i'm also not forced to buy 'insurance' either by authorized resellers. I purchase from GMG/GG/Amazon/Steam/Humble and never have problems.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/238090/discussions/0/540744936577983546/

Like this

https://twitter.com/devolverdigital/status/466577590606520320

Or this

You can buy bad products from eBay, Amazon and you can get scammed from Steam Trading, with your own logic all these retailers are now illegal and illegitimate because there is a chance you could get a bad product or be scammed.

You keep brinign up ebay despite the fact that Steam tells you not to buy from there. Are you even reading anything?

You can't get scammed with Steam trading if you stay within the trading system. If you go outside it then you're scrweed. Just like if you purchase from unauthorized resellers by coincidence!

It's almost magic isnt it?

最後修改者：Satoru; 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 1:14

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HLCinSC 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 1:13

If a site only will agree to help you if you buy their "shield" insurance, that should be a red flag.

If a site warns you that buying a steam gift from them can result in an account suspension that they are not liable for, that should be a red flag.

That said, a lot of people have great success with that site and I'm sure the vast majority of their sales go through problem free, but only you can decide if the discount is worth the risk.

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Wraithverge 2014 年 11 月 26 日下午 1:47

I compare most of these key-sites to some "back alley merchants".
You absolutely don't have any idea where and how he got his goods and if they were obtained legally or not.
He may be cheaper but you're risking to buy a "stolen bike" which will be taken away by the cops if you get caught riding it.

I don't say that all key-sellers are bad but you should always keep in mind, that most of these sellers have their headquarters in china (at least the ones I know) and I know 2 guys (friend and brother) who have lost their games because the keys were revoked/locked after a few days.

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