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It is built with reliability and performance in mind - tweak one aspect, and the other suffers. So the more you push the performance up, the reliability will drop.
For overclocking, where you are changing nothing hardware or cooling-wise, you could feasibly get 10%-20% extra (at a pinch). Any more than that, and you risk pushing the temperatures to dangerous levels.
Up the cooling and you can get more, but if you're expecting to get up to double (2GHz to 4GHz) I'd forget it. It's unrealistic. You'd be far better starting again from scratch with a new motherboard and CPU.
As you're talking laptop, I would caution against it at all. You might get a few percent, but you'll shorten the life due to the extra heat involved.
In general terms, overclocking my system is not arguably worth it and it might just be a better idea to get a new desktop system.
My parents have my old desktop that has almost the same specs as my computer, but is able to be upgraded.
Should I very well ask them to take hand of their computer and give them my laptop, or save up for a new desktop?
Thank you for replying!
if you overclock higher than it can cool, or if the mobo is poor, it will throttle lower than the stock speed
It won't even have oc options in BIOS and using software will cause overheating.
Don't bother OCing a laptop.
I might just rather saving up for a custom-built budget desktop.
What do you guys think of this well-budgeted computer?
{LINK REMOVED}Link:http://austinnotduncan.com/builds/boson/
I see it as a better option because not only is it good for a beginner level computer builder, but it is stationary in pricing and can be upgraded with some money left over.
The way I see it is, I will most likely change the case as well as the amount of RAM(starting out).
Then, I will upgrade everything.
Please tell me what you think of saving up for a budget computer.
All in all, thank you everyone!
Also your APU is locked by the manufacturer so that it can not be overclocked.
You need a desktop K-series APU to be able to overclock or a Intel i-series K or X-series or a AMD FX series or AMD Black Edition. Might be a few more I forgot.
Anyways there are CPUs made for overclocking and those locked against it, often the same CPU is made into a few models by locking, setting different speeds and also unlocking for overclocking. For example most 4th gen i5 CPUs are actually the same CPU with different speed settings and a lock to prevent overclocking or a unlock at the highest speed setting to allow it. The in-CPU software that does this is called "microcode" and is sort of like a BIOS.
As a basic home Linux PC it's good. As a gaming PC not so much cause it won't even match the latest consoles in power and pretty much every part would need to be upgraded for it to do so. SO my advice is don't get that unless you are really just looking for a super low power (electricity use) basic home PC for things other than gaming.
The PC you already have isn't really worse than that Boson build honestly. Now you can play games on the "Boson" but pretty much only the same stuff you can on your current PC. It's honestly not a improvement and it's not competition for the consoles.
Here is what I'd recommend if you can afford it:
"Gamebox" budget PS4/XB1 console replacement PC. Version 2
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Rove/saved/WmdG3C
Base Total: $525.91
Mail-in Rebates: -$90.00
Total: $435.91
That should be able to match or outmatch the newest consoles in terms of technical computer power and capacity and further can be overclocked on a CPU, GPU, RAM and Motherboard. I'd recommend using Linux (Mint is my favorite version) and a program called Wine to play Windows games.Wine is free from the Linux Mint software library. Meanwhile you can save up so that later you can buy a 256GB SSD and Windows 8(.1) 64bit which will cost about $70-$100 for the SSD and $90~ for Windows, total $160-$190. You then install Windows on the SSD and can keep Linux on a partition of your SSD so that you still got all your old stuff. Since Linux is free & funded by donation it can be a really good way to save money on a budget build and put it into hardware. Also Steam OS (a version of Linux) is currently in Beta though I still recommend the more mature Linux Mint. If you want to try Steam OS try it first because beware that it will wipe out all attached drives when you install it so you will lose any other OS & files that you had if it's not blank already.
If you have the install disc you may be able to re-use your current copy of Windows though you will have to take it off your laptop and put Linux there first according to Microsoft at least and they may de-activate both your copies or at least refuse to provide updates if you don't do that. Though you could go ahead and check and see.
If you just want a good basic PC that is upgradeable to be about as good as this first one:
A8-7600 good basic PC build
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Rove/saved/2QyWGX
Base Total: $388.71
Mail-in Rebates: -$30.00
Total: $358.71
Needs to be upgraded with at least a R7 260X or hopefully a better GPU like R9 270, 270X, 280, 285 or GTX 760, 970, 980 which are currently all the good ones I know to be compatible with a 500W PSU like this build has. Once you've upgraded the video card performance should be about the same (or better depending on the GPU you got) as the "Gamebox" build that was the first I posted.
If you want the cheapest possible PC with minimum upgrades required that can at least get near to competition with the newest consoles even if it's not markedly better than them like my "Gamebox" build then for $310~ you can still do a lot better than the "Boson" thanks to rebates, deals and sales. Make sure you turn on rebates in PC Part Picker so you can see them, you can do it on the sidebar of any page for selecting parts like the "memory" tab for example. Anyway's here's the build:
"Custom super cheapo-box" super cheap par or barely-sub-par to the newest consoles:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jjwXhM
Base Total: $373.87
Mail-in Rebates: -$65.00
Total: $308.87
With a additional 4GB (or 8GB) stick of the same brand and model # of RAM or at least a 4GB (or 8GB) stick of any DDR3-1600 CAS 9 1.5V compatible RAM and perhaps a little tuning and overclocking of RAM, CPU (only possible by FSB so don't expect too much and remember FSB overclock RAM and other parts also) and most importantly the GPU it should be almost exactly on par with the rough technical stats of a Xbox One though the GPU will unfortunately fall below the level of the PS4 which is the more powerful of the 2. Also in the end it will miss out on HSA optimizations for APUs but at least it's somewhere in the same league even if it ain't the winning team.
The $250 version of the "Boson" would be worse than your current PC so for that reason I won't even go there as far as recommendations. Just learn to look at system requirements and use these pages of Wikipedia to compare your GPU to others:
AMD GPUs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units
Your specific GPU HD 8610G on the chart:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_8000_Series#Richland_.28HD_8xxxG.29_series
As long as your GPU is as powerful as the one in "minimum requirements" on the store page you can probably play as long as all your other parts fit also.
Just wow.
You are amazing!
You literally just explained everything I needed to know!
I thank god for people like who honestly take the hard-work and effort to actually explain everything to someone!
I believe after seeing your different options, I might go ahead and get the best one to get amazing gameplay!
The main reason of this all being is that I am creating a YouTube channel(Because I always wanted to) and I want to have at least decent quality when it comes to gaming.
Not to mention, I am a hardcore gamer, and no I do not play COD.
I enjoy gaming in every way and always love to make people happy, that's why I hope in creating a successful YouTube channel with a upgradable computer for better games to include!
Thank you everyone for you replies!
I believe I have made up my mind!
No, it's not a better option in any case, for the reasons I've already specified.
Judging by your post (and modern standards), you'd be looking at trying to turn a 2GHz processing unit into DOUBLE that. Assuming you could get it anywhere close to that, it would simply burn up and die VERY quickly (although as another user has put it, what actually happens is that performance drops as temperature rises, so without adequate mitigation, you'd plateau LONG before 50%, most likely, and STILL burn it to a crisp).
Your best bet is to simply buy a newer, modern desktop. You might want to have a look at building your own and nose at PC Gamer's recommended cheap build.
EDIT: Just noticing your comments about the Youtube channel, then you need to have at least a reasonably good standard PC. If you can't play the up-to-date games well, you won't get many views.
Note you also need to have something to offer - don't think "well, everyone can do it, and it's easy" because it's EASY to put up your own stuff, but you have to have something to offer to GET and KEEP viewers.
I've been a gaming journalist for certain national magazines here in England, and I can tell you this with absolute certainty. Your writing seems to be OK, but you need to be blessed with a non-offensive voice, elucidate well and clearly, AND be willing to put in hours of work per week.
You could do less than this, but as I've said, you will never get anything like decent views.
Thank you!
Well for what it's worth, I wouldn't have gone to those lengths if I hadn't noticed your language skills are pretty decent.
I deliberately want to illustrate how hard it is to be good or even get noticed, but I'll pop some tips across to you at any time.
I would have done the Youtube route long ago myself, except that I qualified to be an audio engineer a few decades ago, and one thing we had to learn was video editing and using video equipment and that was the only thing I hated. I have no wish to get into that again ;)
GPU will make the most (though not only as all parts are required) difference to your performance and thus your ability to make smooth HD videos and play games well & pretty.
Thank you sir! You are very kind! Without a doubt, you are arguably right when it comes to be unique in creating a audience on YouTube. Not only is it the fact that there is a vast-amount of gamers, but they all are alike which only leads to a downfall in their fame. While, someone such as, PewdDiePie is remembered for his amazing reactions and cussing skills(:P).
If success is to be broughton, I must be unique!
YouTube, is an amazing way to express yourself, and from your standpoint you are just amazing the way you are! Although, it would've been BOSS to see you on YouTube, it really all depends on the persons outputs. From the looks of it, YouTube is not everyone. I understand your point of video editing being a hassle, but it always has been. Don't worry about it! Just follow your dreams and don't worry about a thing! You are who you are, and be happy with it!
Thank you so much!
The fact that I might have to play games that involve high-end graphics, I believe a $530 build will be great to know about!
If it's not to much of a hassle, please feel free to tell me about it!
Thank you again!
fx6300 is old, and socket am3+ is obsolite for any upgrades
most games like core speed over core count
thas why an i3 can match/beat fx6300 in most games
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-4160-vs-AMD-FX-6300
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html
intel cpus cost more, but you can get good boards for lesss
instead of roves "gamebox" id get this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bnqJNG
CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($56.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Zeus Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 270 2GB IceQ X² Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Galaxy-01 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Base Total: $518.92
Shipping: $1.99
Mail-in Rebates: -$45.00
Total: $475.91
much faster cpu cores
better gpu
cx430 will be fine with the build
Here's the $530~ build:
FX 6300 & R9 270X build for gaming
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Rove/saved/9tWJ7P
Base Total: $634.90
Promo Discounts: -$14.24
Mail-in Rebates: -$90.00
Total: $530.66