Steam is NOT user friendly, need help with installing Oblivion

[JJetsky]

I don't come in here often, I'm pretty much able to handle my own issues, but now, I need help.

I was playing Oblivion after a few years and trying to mod it. I learned a lot about modding by doing Morrowind, and it was great.

I started installing mods and installed Bash and wish I had not. It messed me up. So I decided to just start over. I had some saved played games (getting me out of the original dungeon) and I felt comfortable with that.

Well, after I uninstalled Bash, it was still all over Oblivion so I just decided to uninstall Oblivion and start with a fresh install since I didn't have any other mods installed. That did not work! The fresh install had all the dates set to today's date instead of the original dates. I know that will cause conflict with mods.

I have tried three times! Why can't I get the original files for Oblivion to install?

[Satoru]

I'm not sure how its steam's fault because WyreBash is a terrible POS

http://tesfans.org/guides/wrye%20bash/docs/Wrye%20Bash%20General%20Readme.html#uninstall

WyreBash touches so much stuff its almost impossible to disentangle. Manually delete everything

[JJetsky]

Thanks for the reply, Satoru. I agree, it's a POS. That is why I just deleted my Steam copy of the game so I could start over.

I have a handful of saved game files, so I'm not worried there. My problem is that when installing a new copy of the game, all the old dates of the files have been wiped and they are now current dates. I know that won't work with mods. I decided to start a "ticket" for help with Steam, and so far that has generated a reply about my saved games being lost not being retrievalble. *thud*

I am currently waiting on a Reply on how to download the original Steam verion of the game with the old dates intack.

[HLCinSC]

Unless there is wyrebash on Steam workshop I doubt they are going to help you. They can't really be responsible for all 3rd party mods people use and mess up their games with. How long ago did you install it? If relatively recently, a system restore may work.

[JJetsky]

But I don't want help with Wyrebash! I just want to download the original game. Gosh, I don't understand how many ways I can say this. I do not need help with a mod, I just want to get the ORIGINAL game back and start over.

I dumped everytthing I had tried, gone, poof, including Oblivion.. Now I just want to install the game.from scrach. Steam won't give me the original game files to start over. What I get when I download the game is not the original setup.

[HLCinSC]

I wasn't trying to help you with wyrebash just letting you know support typically will not help clean up the mess caused by a third party download. How do you know the download is any different than what I get when I download it.

Download it on another computer then back it up and restore it on your current one, or have a friend copy the unmodded game files to a flash drive and replace your files with his. Also, disable steam cloud for the game.

[JJetsky]

Great idea, Game Mechanic! I'm going to go do that right now! I don't have the cloud installed, but thanks for checking. I really appreciate the advice.

I know the game isn't the original because all of the dates are now identical in all the files and data. In the original game, some of the files go back to when GOTY came out. This is the way it is supposed to be to accomodate some mods that build on some of those files.

ETA: Well, that didn't work, the system wouldn't let me download to a stick or external hard drive. But in checking all my folders, I found more Wyre stuff in a My Games folder where my saved games were. I saved my games to an external hard drive and deleted the folder and am currently starting over, hopefully. I did delete Oblivion earlier tonight and download another one, but it was messed up too. I deleted my Steam desktop short cut, and anything that might have Oblivion connected. It's been an interesting journey. I had to log in all over again and identify myself. I tried to download the game and it basically ignored me. So... we'll see.

[JJetsky]

I am officially ticked off, big time and I do not know how to proceed. I want an original download of the Steam GOTY edition of Oblivion. Anybody have any ideas? I'm surprised by how angry I am over this whole thing, but I am.

Does anyone know of a program that will restore default dates to data in a Steam game. Does anyone know how to actually contact Steam? I tried the Contact Support thing and they keep wanting to tell me that my saved games might be lost. Well, no, they aren't! I have them nice and cozy in a saved folder. I jsut want my darned game back to the original format. *sigh*

[HLCinSC]

Support is just going to tell you they do not assist with third party game support and that it is something on your end messing things up.

Your only real help around here for support is directly from Bethesda http://help.bethsoft.com/?sid=104259110204069026037034&pid=1570&pnm=Oblivion+Game+of+the+Year+Edition

or the Oblivion forum: http://steamcommunity.com/app/22330/discussions/

If you can't find a solution anywhere then it may be time for a windows/computer format

[Spawn of Totoro]

Aside from deleting local content in the Steam Client, did you also manually delete the Oblivion folder in the steam directory?

I find that tends to be what gets missed when someone is trying for a clean install. Just downloading the files again won't removed the additional files for the mods that the game will still try to use.

Keep in mind, any previous saves, that were used with mods, may not work if the mods have been removed.

[JJetsky]

I thank you all for sparking my memory and delving into things I had not thought of for years. After reading thread after thread here at Steam and other forums about gaming problems, I remembered that I had to change the BSA files manually for the mods to work. I searched my computer for the date changer and couldn't find it, checked my external hard drives and memory sticks, nope. Basically, i couldn't remember the name of the darned thing.

Then today, I found this thread online.

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1247863-mods-steam-oblivion-goty/

I followed the link for the date changer, downloaded it and used it. I changed all the Vanilla BSA files to 2006 so the mods will be happy. I'm optimistic that this will work.

And yes, I saved a version of the Data files awhile ago so I don't have to do this again!

So far, all I have added is OBSE, but now, I'm good to go adding mods.

Again, thank you for the support. JJ

[HLCinSC]

Glad it worked out and thank you for posting your fix so if another user has the same issue they will be able to solve it faster than you.

[JJetsky]

You're welcome. I like when someone follows up with a fix they've found too.

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