new computer cant play games via friendslist

[kayonhalf]

Hiya folks hoping for some help with a really annoying issue here, so I got an awesome new computer and I'm loving the performance with exception to one odd bug I cant seem to work out,
seems that any time I try to join a friends via the friends list (or any time they try to join my game) it fails with the following messages
if they are trying to join my game "the server timed out"
if I am trying to join their game "failed to locate server"
the games I'm currently noting issues with are

stardew valley(I can play multiplayer via friends list on my old computer but no this one)
starbound
and
seven days to die(I can join a random server and play with others just fine on this but again no dice looking in the friends servers or going by invite, oh and I can also play via LAN just fine)

for whatever reason Left4dead 2 multiplayer works fine but I don't join via friends-list invite or vice versa when playing that game.

some notes that may matter

my computer can handle playing these games fine
I use the same internet for the old computer as the new
I made sure all of these apps are allowed through my firewall

lol sure does suck, I'm looking into playing via IP address but I'd really like to just be able to use the friends-list

thank you all for reading this and for any help you can provide

[kayonhalf]

anybody out there?

[kayonhalf]

help?

[Lemesianos]

try opt in steam beta client participation.

[kayonhalf]

ok thanks I'll give that a shot this evening :)

[Iceira]

All this sounds like Firewall blocking issue.

I use the same internet for the old computer as the new
I made sure all of these apps are allowed through my firewall

nothing make sense, unless ISP cant get traffic throug some where between you and your friends or into same server.

ps.
well dont have ipv6 issue , then its exatly that segmented network . this has been warned in several Education that has this as part of there educations.

ps.
he who dont have ipv6 and ISP that dont have it, will get into trouble, ipv4 adr run out a long time ago.


but dont you have old pc , it will take you 2 sec to point at other pc or router is not with NAT

[kayonhalf]

ok tried opting into steam client beta nothing, I turned the firewall off completely still doesnt work,any other clues, also iceira sorry but im not the most 733t guy out there so I dont know what ipv 6 and 4 are mind enlightening me?

[crunchyfrog]

Firewalls and antiviruses being the culprits for such things (especially if you have a new computer) will most likely NOT be solved by simply disabling them. They often have legacy code running that still causes issues.

Your best bet is to remove them entirely and get something better that works fine with Steam.

If all else fails, and you're still getting issues, you can try this test. Start Windows in Safe Mode with networking. Granted, this will enable you to run steam and games might be a little wonky or settings might be messed up but try it to see if the problem persists.

If the issues is solved then it most certainly still IS something software-wise on your system causing the problem.

[kayonhalf]

ok on it I'll try it now, thanks everyone for trying to help me out

[kayonhalf]

no luck and my firewall is windows which you cant remove in win 10,thanks a bunch for try8ing folks this is honestly one of the most frustrating things ever, and I realized that even when I did get on to a dedicated server on 7 days to die I don't think there was anyone else on, I tried joining other dedicated servers that didn't require a password or any mods and I cant join ones with other people, I'm going to call an old friend who has worked IT and hope he knows, for what its worth I've found others dealing with this in old steam threads and no solution was found, also I educated mytself regarding IPv4-6 and thats not the issue my router runs both. the same router that the older computer works fine on when playing multiplayer.
I'm also going to go through the hoops to get to steam support on this one.

[crunchyfrog]

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no luck and my firewall is windows which you cant remove in win 10,thanks a bunch for try8ing folks this is honestly one of the most frustrating things ever, and I realized that even when I did get on to a dedicated server on 7 days to die I don't think there was anyone else on, I tried joining other dedicated servers that didn't require a password or any mods and I cant join ones with other people, I'm going to call an old friend who has worked IT and hope he knows, for what its worth I've found others dealing with this in old steam threads and no solution was found, also I educated mytself regarding IPv4-6 and thats not the issue my router runs both. the same router that the older computer works fine on when playing multiplayer.
I'm also going to go through the hoops to get to steam support on this one.

I wouldn't bother with Steam support, as they're only for account issues where we can't help.

So what did safe mode with networking do? If it failed still and you ONLY have Windows Defender, then there is something else software related that is blocking on your computer.

Windows Defender - think about it - if you can't remove it, neither can anyone else, and we don't all have issues, so it's unlikely to be at fault.

The question is, what IS blocking things?

Your best bet going forward is to try and disable things on startup, or remove them entirely (uninstall) until you find out what is causing the issue.

[kayonhalf]

ok thanks, so safe mode with networking behaved very odd in that when I tried to get on my WIFI network it would open the list of options (weird considering its "with networking") I'll check the start up and see whats up thanks for continuing to try and help.

[crunchyfrog]

Also how does your connection behave with a WIRED connection? You shouldn't use wifi to test these things anyway as it's crap, and highly prone to interference.

[Iceira]

plenty of them, this is your information, and it still your ISP that know or dont know if its needed.
but this dont ruleout then they someday do, and they will contact all endcustomer with it.
https://whatismyipaddress.com/

ps.
its you job to ruleout its not and keep a eye on it.
im pretty sure you dont need to know ip-adr is same as where you live, it just a im here now with this ID wan ID not privat IP behind a router.
this is a roughly explanation on that layer level3 without going into to much detail for a thing.

but all the adr has been used so ipv6 is on the step to takeover and same time keep use ipv4.
and you will see plenty of post with people say turn it off. ( this is not recommended anymore )
and can give issue with narrow your world down and could in worst case be seen as alone and not connected. if ISP change first jump you have to isp with a ipv6 router. its that complicated untill they fix a way to get past such.

i dont keep up at then world is not fully ipv6 mandatory , why should i, not worth my time but if other know more say so.

but maybe test with other pc get a friends laptop to ruleout at your end or take your laptop to hes place to ruleout own ISP. ( you have many test issue then old pc work and not new.
and that is firewall/antiviru or router or ISP issue.

and old pc is working if i recall correctly , besure router know NAT or whaever you did to get traffic to other pc.