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EZ GAME TRY HARDER LOL 5 DIC 2015 a las 10:37 a. m.
Downloaded a virus (URGENT)
My 'friend' sended me this link. I downloaded it at my computer freaked out and everyone got logged out, even my regular tabs on chrome. My task manager is also disabled. How do I fix this? HELP. I know I am stupid
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crunchyfrog 9 DIC 2015 a las 12:28 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por °•👽 Louna 👽•°:
Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

As I said, yes, I know you've CLAIMED this. I'm asking for such evidence as I can't see any.

I'm afraid it IS your burden of proof, and as I said, I'm not saying you're lying, but until I see some solid evidence, I see no reason to believe it.


Just use the search fuction. All is there.
You are surely new to the internet if you think EVERY emails CANNOT be lost while sent or that any system is perfect.

No I'm afraid you misunderstand burden of proof. The CLAIMANT ALWAYS has the burden to provide evidence for THEIR claim. This is absolute.

So please provide the evidence please. I'd love to see it.

Oh and if you don't understand burden of proof, here please do read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

If I were to claim aliens exist, who would the burden fall upon to provide suitable evidence should anyone not believe me? Me of course.
As I said, it's absolute - it refers to ALL cases.

I get it if you've made a mistake. We all do it. There's no disgrace in saying "OK I don't have evidence" or "whoops, I misread" or anything. I'm far too old for such silly one-upmanship.

I am concerned only about good information being offered to the community as myths do propagate well on here.

You provide adequate evidence and I shall be most thankful. That's not unreasonable a request.
Coffee 9 DIC 2015 a las 1:12 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:
Publicado originalmente por °•👽 Louna 👽•°:


Just use the search fuction. All is there.
You are surely new to the internet if you think EVERY emails CANNOT be lost while sent or that any system is perfect.

No I'm afraid you misunderstand burden of proof. The CLAIMANT ALWAYS has the burden to provide evidence for THEIR claim. This is absolute.

So please provide the evidence please. I'd love to see it.

Oh and if you don't understand burden of proof, here please do read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

If I were to claim aliens exist, who would the burden fall upon to provide suitable evidence should anyone not believe me? Me of course.
As I said, it's absolute - it refers to ALL cases.

I get it if you've made a mistake. We all do it. There's no disgrace in saying "OK I don't have evidence" or "whoops, I misread" or anything. I'm far too old for such silly one-upmanship.

I am concerned only about good information being offered to the community as myths do propagate well on here.

You provide adequate evidence and I shall be most thankful. That's not unreasonable a request.

The evidence is all there, tons of people reporting the issue on Steam forum.
I'm not wrong because it's not presented to you on a silver plater.

ɱéʅιʂʂα 9 DIC 2015 a las 1:19 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:
Publicado originalmente por °•👽 Louna 👽•°:


Just use the search fuction. All is there.
You are surely new to the internet if you think EVERY emails CANNOT be lost while sent or that any system is perfect.

No I'm afraid you misunderstand burden of proof. The CLAIMANT ALWAYS has the burden to provide evidence for THEIR claim. This is absolute.

So please provide the evidence please. I'd love to see it.

Oh and if you don't understand burden of proof, here please do read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

If I were to claim aliens exist, who would the burden fall upon to provide suitable evidence should anyone not believe me? Me of course.
As I said, it's absolute - it refers to ALL cases.

I get it if you've made a mistake. We all do it. There's no disgrace in saying "OK I don't have evidence" or "whoops, I misread" or anything. I'm far too old for such silly one-upmanship.

I am concerned only about good information being offered to the community as myths do propagate well on here.

You provide adequate evidence and I shall be most thankful. That's not unreasonable a request.


No sane person is going to keep a text document listing every issues being reported about that to post everytime an ignorant (See definition as "lacking awareness about something in particular.") cannot use the search function.


The Steam Guard email verification on the app isn't working for me either, i never received ANY email about it on activating it.

Pyrodos 9 DIC 2015 a las 1:20 p. m. 
I recommend the kaspersky Rescue Disk to check if anything of the virus ist left on your pc.
Coffee 9 DIC 2015 a las 1:46 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por KampfSalat:
I recommend the kaspersky Rescue Disk to check if anything of the virus ist left on your pc.

Indeed it's a great tool but you need more tools to ensure nothing is left or almost nothing.

Hence why real time protection is always a good thing. NOD32 and Kaspersky are good real time protection IMO.
EZ GAME TRY HARDER LOL 10 DIC 2015 a las 2:33 a. m. 
Is MCAFree good??
Coffee 10 DIC 2015 a las 5:28 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por WhyuMad?:
Is MCAFree good??

Free antivirus aren't always good.
You should go with NOD32 or Kaspersky
probe 14 DIC 2015 a las 4:17 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por °•👽 Louna 👽•°:
Publicado originalmente por WhyuMad?:
Is MCAFree good??

Free antivirus aren't always good.
You should go with NOD32 or Kaspersky

Agreed, It is possible however to have a "free" firewall/AV by downloading a new trial version each month of a product and delete cookies, history, etc (along with running proxy connection to not be IP tracked) to have some of the better AV and Firewall programs running for no cost at all (if one is willing spending the time to redownload and install each month).

Threads like these often end up in discussions between self-appointed "experts" discussing stupid stuff and feeling almighty and smart.

There's nobody not getting hacked (by this self-appointed experts opinion, ie me). The amount of exploits still not fixed on the commonly used web apps are crazy. And who even can make a guess on the amount of zero days out there?

My advice is; Adapt to the notion that everything you do on your computer is potentially being exposed to somebody else. Prefer paying cash for stuff and make sure to never let a website log in your account automatically or store your credit info for "making your life easier" (looking at you here Valve, Nice move adding it ticked on by default).

Accept the notion the world is indeed hacked and start changing habits a bit. It won't help you against the most dedicated people hacking others or state hired "crews" but will leave most of circulating unwanted malware nothing to worry about.

I never press links on Steam directly but copy/paste it on a google search and try to get my head around what it might be or not before entering the site. There are a few "decent" site reputation scanners out there. Get Web of Trust for instance (for a commonly known one).

And take the time necessary to clean your computer every now and then. Again, it doesn't do much wonders but should be a good habit for every computer owner out there. A simple free version of CCleaner can help a bit.

And lastly (now I'm dismissing what advice I just gave above) remember that most hacks are caused by Social Engineering. Getting folks to do what the people hacking them want them to do. It's basic knowledge (just check your spamfolder on your email).

Trust no one. Pay in cash and join me on the moon where we can finally be safe.
Coffee 14 DIC 2015 a las 4:57 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por probe:
Publicado originalmente por °•👽 Louna 👽•°:

Free antivirus aren't always good.
You should go with NOD32 or Kaspersky

Agreed, It is possible however to have a "free" firewall/AV by downloading a new trial version each month of a product and delete cookies, history, etc (along with running proxy connection to not be IP tracked) to have some of the better AV and Firewall programs running for no cost at all (if one is willing spending the time to redownload and install each month).

Threads like these often end up in discussions between self-appointed "experts" discussing stupid stuff and feeling almighty and smart.

There's nobody not getting hacked (by this self-appointed experts opinion, ie me). The amount of exploits still not fixed on the commonly used web apps are crazy. And who even can make a guess on the amount of zero days out there?

My advice is; Adapt to the notion that everything you do on your computer is potentially being exposed to somebody else. Prefer paying cash for stuff and make sure to never let a website log in your account automatically or store your credit info for "making your life easier" (looking at you here Valve, Nice move adding it ticked on by default).

Accept the notion the world is indeed hacked and start changing habits a bit. It won't help you against the most dedicated people hacking others or state hired "crews" but will leave most of circulating unwanted malware nothing to worry about.

I never press links on Steam directly but copy/paste it on a google search and try to get my head around what it might be or not before entering the site. There are a few "decent" site reputation scanners out there. Get Web of Trust for instance (for a commonly known one).

And take the time necessary to clean your computer every now and then. Again, it doesn't do much wonders but should be a good habit for every computer owner out there. A simple free version of CCleaner can help a bit.

And lastly (now I'm dismissing what advice I just gave above) remember that most hacks are caused by Social Engineering. Getting folks to do what the people hacking them want them to do. It's basic knowledge (just check your spamfolder on your email).

Trust no one. Pay in cash and join me on the moon where we can finally be safe.

Much easier to ditch a 20$ per year to NOD32 anyway.
probe 14 DIC 2015 a las 9:08 p. m. 
Easier? Sure.

But defending one better I'm not sure about. Even the biggest of AV producing corps get their software hacked (Comodo 2011 hack is a prime example of that with other companies in the same business claiming it was so advanced it was mindboggling. Which it wasn't).

Paying for something doesn't make it any better. It just means you don't support developers of said products instead of getting it for free. I think Mikko Hypponen is right when he says the biggest problem today is people expecting something is free. It isn't free. If it somehow is just means you're the product for the company (commercials, data mining, etc).

If one is paranoid about security regarding online activities I'd recommend going for opensource projects over commercial ones. Petition to make those commercial products not tracking you or mine and sell your data. Learn about port management and consider whether that money isn't better spend on a VPN than a AV product.

While it is nice to be catered to, companies telling you about how it's for "enhancing your experience" translates in to making more money. Steam/Valve does this as well by profilling you (recommended on the Store Page). Whether they sell that data to others or not I don't know.

I don't mind paying for my content. I mind being manipulated into a constantly reinforcing behavioural pattern I don't like. I played games with people who used cracked steam app ID to play with others on Steam and reported them. Even played with a guy, who by the end of a long discussion, I ended up feeling sorry for, spend 20$ on the game he played a cracked version of, sending Valve another mail asking for them to ignore my report on him playing hacked games and let him go free.

So tell me this; If the Steam ToS says "No hacking references", "No hacking of games", no mentioning of emulators etc and somebody reporting such an offense can still see it's more about the money they can make versus enforcing their policy (and one gotta understand, it's a declaration on what you can or can't do according to them, not something saying "this is how it is" and following those rules themselves. It's a caveat put in place to ensure they don't have a responsibility to you as a customer. Because Steam is "free", right? Anybody can download and use their app.

Sorry for the very long rant which delved in to offtopic stuff and personal grievance.

Tl;DR

Open source!
Coffee 14 DIC 2015 a las 10:24 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por probe:
Easier? Sure.

But defending one better I'm not sure about. Even the biggest of AV producing corps get their software hacked (Comodo 2011 hack is a prime example of that with other companies in the same business claiming it was so advanced it was mindboggling. Which it wasn't).

Paying for something doesn't make it any better. It just means you don't support developers of said products instead of getting it for free. I think Mikko Hypponen is right when he says the biggest problem today is people expecting something is free. It isn't free. If it somehow is just means you're the product for the company (commercials, data mining, etc).

If one is paranoid about security regarding online activities I'd recommend going for opensource projects over commercial ones. Petition to make those commercial products not tracking you or mine and sell your data. Learn about port management and consider whether that money isn't better spend on a VPN than a AV product.

While it is nice to be catered to, companies telling you about how it's for "enhancing your experience" translates in to making more money. Steam/Valve does this as well by profilling you (recommended on the Store Page). Whether they sell that data to others or not I don't know.

I don't mind paying for my content. I mind being manipulated into a constantly reinforcing behavioural pattern I don't like. I played games with people who used cracked steam app ID to play with others on Steam and reported them. Even played with a guy, who by the end of a long discussion, I ended up feeling sorry for, spend 20$ on the game he played a cracked version of, sending Valve another mail asking for them to ignore my report on him playing hacked games and let him go free.

So tell me this; If the Steam ToS says "No hacking references", "No hacking of games", no mentioning of emulators etc and somebody reporting such an offense can still see it's more about the money they can make versus enforcing their policy (and one gotta understand, it's a declaration on what you can or can't do according to them, not something saying "this is how it is" and following those rules themselves. It's a caveat put in place to ensure they don't have a responsibility to you as a customer. Because Steam is "free", right? Anybody can download and use their app.

Sorry for the very long rant which delved in to offtopic stuff and personal grievance.

Tl;DR

Open source!


That's exactly what all my customers were telling me back in the days before i went in robotic engineering. And yet, they had the most infected computers ever seen!
crunchyfrog 17 DIC 2015 a las 11:15 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por °•👽 Louna 👽•°:
Publicado originalmente por WhyuMad?:
Is MCAFree good??

Free antivirus aren't always good.
You should go with NOD32 or Kaspersky

Valve state on their pages that NOD32 can cause issues with Steam, so it's not recommended.

And free antivirus is absolutely fine (depending on which of course). The key is to keep iot set to auto-update at a MINIMUM of once a day.

crunchyfrog 17 DIC 2015 a las 11:18 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por ɱéʅιʂʂα:
Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

No I'm afraid you misunderstand burden of proof. The CLAIMANT ALWAYS has the burden to provide evidence for THEIR claim. This is absolute.

So please provide the evidence please. I'd love to see it.

Oh and if you don't understand burden of proof, here please do read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

If I were to claim aliens exist, who would the burden fall upon to provide suitable evidence should anyone not believe me? Me of course.
As I said, it's absolute - it refers to ALL cases.

I get it if you've made a mistake. We all do it. There's no disgrace in saying "OK I don't have evidence" or "whoops, I misread" or anything. I'm far too old for such silly one-upmanship.

I am concerned only about good information being offered to the community as myths do propagate well on here.

You provide adequate evidence and I shall be most thankful. That's not unreasonable a request.


No sane person is going to keep a text document listing every issues being reported about that to post everytime an ignorant (See definition as "lacking awareness about something in particular.") cannot use the search function.


The Steam Guard email verification on the app isn't working for me either, i never received ANY email about it on activating it.

That's not the point. SHE made a claim - it's HER burden of proof.

she stated quite clearly that there is x reason for this claim. I'm taking the default position of not believing that until adequate evidence is shown, and such burden ALWAYS remains that of the claimant of the positive claim.

Again, this is ABSOLUTE - it applies to EVERYTHING.

Now, if we want to leave it here, fine, I have no problem, as long as people reading this are clear that such claim is without basis unless demonstrated otherwise.

That's it.
Coffee 18 DIC 2015 a las 6:24 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:
Publicado originalmente por °•👽 Louna 👽•°:

Free antivirus aren't always good.
You should go with NOD32 or Kaspersky

Valve state on their pages that NOD32 can cause issues with Steam, so it's not recommended.

And free antivirus is absolutely fine (depending on which of course). The key is to keep iot set to auto-update at a MINIMUM of once a day.


Every software has some sort of compatibility issues.

Avoiding anything on this list entirely leave you with nearly no option of an effective one.
Coffee 18 DIC 2015 a las 6:25 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:
Publicado originalmente por ɱéʅιʂʂα:


No sane person is going to keep a text document listing every issues being reported about that to post everytime an ignorant (See definition as "lacking awareness about something in particular.") cannot use the search function.


The Steam Guard email verification on the app isn't working for me either, i never received ANY email about it on activating it.

That's not the point. SHE made a claim - it's HER burden of proof.

she stated quite clearly that there is x reason for this claim. I'm taking the default position of not believing that until adequate evidence is shown, and such burden ALWAYS remains that of the claimant of the positive claim.

Again, this is ABSOLUTE - it applies to EVERYTHING.

Now, if we want to leave it here, fine, I have no problem, as long as people reading this are clear that such claim is without basis unless demonstrated otherwise.

That's it.


I still wait for your burden of proof of NOD32 being bad when i suggested it too.

You keep linking to that Steam page without being able which compatibility issue it has and if the issue (if it exist) still apply.
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