Bridged Connection on Steam in Windows 10

[Memory]

Hi everyone, if you are having an issue about connecting gaming servers while using bridge on a router; at first I had some problems. Whatsoever I tried turning off file transfer from steam settings, because it initially occurs to me that a gaming server or steam might be thinking that there are two devices connecting from different types of network connection. Let me know if any other fixes currently available and I am still unsure so disclaimers. Thanks for looking in.

By the way I am getting more valuable connection from bridged connection both 5ghz and 15 meters cable.

Have a nice day.

[Iceira]

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I must correct the topic is about this is improvement not modifying your connection. I mean you don't upgrade or anything just improving. You don't get what you already not have. If I gave such impression I apologize.

Its okay, many topic on the how do it connect to wallplug, and what did you do , also help other steam user to learn and know whay mobil hotspot to cable or wifi you did is,

Im sure you most have other IT person to talk with sense you are such,
dont forget i have seen ppl with higher IT skills then me , but that dont make them a gamer and network experts, its them you need now depend on what goals you looking for.
and most of them will not even buy a GPU card or play games, problem is they also have kids and then all this matter now. ( its funny how things change then other need it.)

im sure you have co-workers, and there is always a gamer there if this matter to you.

[Memory]

I have no chance of imagining a professional tournament setup. You see there are people students and workers in IT sector that doesn't even have PC. Might be personal health issue or economical I do not know. But I must admit this depends on your capabilities. Now I am capable of somehow available rusty old apartment floor and a somewhat connection. I do not say that if you double triple your connections you get more powerful internet access.

The thing here is improvement only but, who knows how many people are living the same thing here...

Well what if I am living alone? This might help me. Please do not try to block other people from getting the info. So this topic is not about my personal ego and started only for smoothing some details.



Have good day

[Iceira]

Thats the problem here you have no clue in what professonal will do, they will not do that, they will use advance routing.

And now you dont like other input that dont agree with you. ( say alot about what you dont know and lack the courage to talk with Network ppl. ) becuae maybe we hit the nail here, in what you dont understand , and you think all steam user know network they dont. ( you need to have read network or be educated, be a gamer aient going to save you with the reply you did here. )

steam user's in general will not could help you.

ps.
Brigde router and repeater is seen as emergency repair today, not a solutions.
just wait to you talk with Network technician that dare tell you things upfront.

[crunchyfrog]

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OK let me tell you this. This is not big deal obviously. Some people say it may even get worse. That is because you can't use it correctly.

Think of a rope you hold it one hand. It's good OK. But how about a second hand of yours?

Even if we are point 0 to the modem. I am again telling you that I am not the highest point to tell this but your bandwidth would increase. I am just calling a guess here.

But the truth is when I did this at my home about: let me tell again and again my setup whomever couldn't read and add my setup here, I got about 20 meters away my modem placed behind house walls and a router (5 G Hz) closer to it ( 5 meters ) connected to the modem by cable and I am on the other side of the house about 15 meters away from router also using cable (15 meters). So I am connecting to the router from slightly behind a wall on 15 meters by both wireless and wired. By this connection. I have implemented the above instructions. I am sorry If I am repeating myself many times, because this is for a good understanding of the community as to answer the question marks.

By the way I am Computer Engineer who probably needs an audiologist or audio engineer but this is whole another topic so, totally off topic :).

I never considered myself as a professional gamer because I am not. Any person could be a professional gamer but I imagine it must not be easy as you can say "go ahead be a pro". But I don't know if you are anyways.

The thing is as far as I know 2.4 has higher range and 5 G Hz provides higher speeds.

I imagine this is going to be slightly philosophically but if you can give more vibration per second then you'll be transferring more data which makes 5 G Hz faster and because of the load of this 5 G Hz your travel would be shorter. Oooor you know wave peaks higher range shorter last sentence makes more sence (edited).

You're wrong, well mostly.

I am an audio engineer but that doesn't mean anything much.

The fact is as I described before. When you play games, the packets of data re realtively TINY versus other means of data. For example, you stream a movie and you're talking quite a hefty chunk of continual data packets.

Gaming, not very much because most of the time all you're sending is location of character data plus a few other data points like "have you shot a bullet" and so on. It's why you could play Doom over a dial up modem easily. But it took many years for you to be able to stream a reasonable quality movie.

What you're misunderstanding is that sure, 5GHz band is "better" than 2.4, simply because it has a broader range of frequencies to send your signals across and it can be "faster". But as you're talking tiny packets of data at a time, the benfit is negligible.

What you actually may be having problems with is interference as I've said before.

The 2.4 GHz band is typically used quite a lot by other household items and also there's considerable intereference there from noise. Not so much with 5GHz. So if you are having trouble with 2.4 but not so much with 5 that DOES NOT mean it's substantitally better purely because it's a higher frequency.

It's likely you just have a less occupied bandwidth.


THink of it like this - if you ever used AM or FM radio to listen to music back in the day and had an issue staying on frequency with your favourite channel, then it's similar. Here in the UK back in the 1960s and 70s we had a great radio station on AM called Radio Luxembourg. During the evenings they played some great music, but it was such a congested range of frequencies it often wandered off station and you were continually trying to dial it in.

But if you went to FM to pick up BBC Radio 2, you'd find it easily and clearly, not purely because FM was "better" technically, though it was, but more for the fact there was nothing else around the same bandwidth to interfere.

[Iceira]

+ what CF point out and still through a router that work as repeter, you increased the latency back and fourth with every packets through router.2 ( this is fact )

as fare as i know reapter work on layer2 another issue with it, even then its a router but then bridge its a layer2 device even the router normaly is layer3, so you incrase network issue though it to all device out there.and back to main router.

this is why bridge a router is bad as hell. ( depend on how many units out there in that end. )

[Memory]

Publicado originalmente por Iceira:

+ what CF point out and still through a router that work as repeter, you increased the latency back and fourth with every packets through router.2 ( this is fact )

as fare as i know reapter work on layer2 another issue with it, even then its a router but then bridge its a layer2 device even the router normaly is layer3, so you incrase network issue though it to all device out there.and back to main router.

this is why bridge a router is bad as hell. ( depend on how many units out there in that end. )

I connect by both ethernet and 5ghz to a router i got from 60 ping dropped to 35 ping make calculations have a nice day

[Iceira]

Publicado originalmente por Memory:

Publicado originalmente por Iceira:

+ what CF point out and still through a router that work as repeter, you increased the latency back and fourth with every packets through router.2 ( this is fact )

as fare as i know reapter work on layer2 another issue with it, even then its a router but then bridge its a layer2 device even the router normaly is layer3, so you incrase network issue though it to all device out there.and back to main router.

this is why bridge a router is bad as hell. ( depend on how many units out there in that end. )

I connect by both ethernet and 5ghz to a router i got from 60 ping dropped to 35 ping make calculations have a nice day

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amature is welcome at steam they are full of them here, we are done here, talk with a network technician , because you are not that, and so is the internet that told you use a layer1 Solutions. ( most network technician has learn to avoid at all cost layer1 solution as most as possible. ) its matter of understanding Ethernet and what its doing at each layer.
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so you see, i know you lie or have more network issue then you know about.

+ next gen router and switch is on Fiber even faster. ( wifi is for casual players, pro players will not use wifi, only as emergency )

[Memory]

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I connect by both ethernet and 5ghz to a router i got from 60 ping dropped to 35 ping make calculations have a nice day

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amature is welcome at steam they are full of them here, we are done here, talk with a network technician , because you are not that, and so is the internet that told you use a layer1 Solutions. ( most network technician has learn to avoid at all cost layer1 solution as most as possible. ) its matter of understanding Ethernet and what its doing at each layer.
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so you see, i know you lie or have more network issue then you know about.

I said I am not expert and you still try to dominate me with all apoligies whomever reading this. Why do you need to call amateur if you are more than one xd. I am CEN but not a hardware or even networker so pls stop insulting.

You should enlighten people by your additions or answers and give solid proof after your comments. Not just aaah it doesnt work. You should do this even if you are not an expert. What is this now? Dont turn this into a cat fight, get up and make connections than you get to talk to me at least. Is this fair enough?

[Iceira]

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Publicado originalmente por Iceira:

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amature is welcome at steam they are full of them here, we are done here, talk with a network technician , because you are not that, and so is the internet that told you use a layer1 Solutions. ( most network technician has learn to avoid at all cost layer1 solution as most as possible. ) its matter of understanding Ethernet and what its doing at each layer.
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so you see, i know you lie or have more network issue then you know about.

I said I am not expert and you still try to dominate me with all apoligies whomever reading this. Why do you need to call amateur if you are more than one xd. I am CEN but not a hardware or even networker so pls stop insulting.

or did you drop the bridge, then i get it, you did not say you change to routed network. ( if you did then GZ ), and sorry we other use specific words that explan network terms.

Technicaly steam dont care if you do a bridge Solution, but they forget then all user do it in own lan that can give more latency among all players, this is why im hard on this, and i hope ppl get it.

we as player do not like laggy games, and noone knows why and who is doing this.
you need Network ppl to tell other ppl this.

gl with it.

[Memory]

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I said I am not expert and you still try to dominate me with all apoligies whomever reading this. Why do you need to call amateur if you are more than one xd. I am CEN but not a hardware or even networker so pls stop insulting.

or did you drop the bridge, then i get it, you did not say you change to routed network. ( if you did then GZ ), and sorry we other use specific words that explan network terms.

So.. on the last setup my one of my 15 meters cable disconnected and i am now with a setup of: 1 Modem 2.4ghz and 1 router 5Ghz then I am connecting to router with both ethernet cable and 5 Ghz I must say it slightly get worsened because router is now in repeater mode and feeded by 2.4 Ghz. Now I still can say its a good option for large places behind doors. And It still is better than getting internet from one way of connection probably now the last one is an assumption.

I just followed a video on the internet a guy explains it; "how to bridge network on Windows 10".
I am not totally sure what I mechanically did tough..

*** Online gaming ping decreases.
*** Downloading game speed increases.
*** Better, smoother experience for me.

For me cause, otherwise either I am getting something from a better way or it is something that everyone can get.

And this is not only available for steam. Your overall internet capabilities expand.

Now under theese circumstances the very topic is includes, game file transfer.
Game File Transfer options on the settings makes your Second PC available for downloading to the current pc. Now this option might have been causing a kind of issue that when you switch it on while you do this. And then you try to game with the connection. You get kicked or something like this. This is because you are connecting with same PC on the same network twice. This was what the topic is all about. I am asking if it has a point to be somehow logical or something. Because when I switched it off it started running. I tried bridging my network previously but Game File Transfer option never occured to me this way. Now this is something a CEN but Software CEN type of CEN can understand with all do respect :).