internaut Dec 5, 2023 @ 11:20pm
Steam Will Stop Running on My Win-7
There is a red bar on the GUI, counting down the days to when Steam pulls the plug on Win7 -, 8 8.1
I get it.
What I don't get is how I can find the install files, and also, how does one run a Steam Game Offline.
I have a desktop cabled to the router. Would blocking Steam in the firewall, and pulling the cable out to play off-line work?
I know it's a lot of effort, humor me :)
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Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Dec 5, 2023 @ 11:46pm 
Can switch to steam offline, but you be required to reverify after X about of days which you face the music of updating.

Another way is people trying to prevent from updating files, but the problems is that sooner, or later the older version of the client will lose connection to the steam server until you update which is the problem.

Someone made a dooms day Steam guide post, I think it was called survival of windows 7, anyways you use Steam CMD to download games, drawback is that if game required client to be running well can see the problem already.

There are DRM free games on Steam, but that depends rather if not your game part of that list, or not as up to game dev to choose if they want drm free for their game. Can google wiki page on this.



Option I suggest to people is dual boot as it easiest method. Yes all games that works for windows 7 also works for windows 10/11 if run into issues people post guides how to fix it which is often easy to do from turning on or off a setting for a game, drag & drop a file, or edit game file using note pad then copy, and paste things.
petran79 Dec 6, 2023 @ 3:56am 
Sooner or later you'll have to have a backup copy of every game and copy it to the Steam folder manually for it to work
nullable Dec 6, 2023 @ 5:42am 
Originally posted by internaut:
There is a red bar on the GUI, counting down the days to when Steam pulls the plug on Win7 -, 8 8.1
I get it.
What I don't get is how I can find the install files, and also, how does one run a Steam Game Offline.
I have a desktop cabled to the router. Would blocking Steam in the firewall, and pulling the cable out to play off-line work?
I know it's a lot of effort, humor me :)

There's plenty of holdouts, discussions and guides how to survive the impending Winpocalypse. For example, https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967855237Last

My advice is don't try to reinvent the wheel when you know you're not literally the first or only person to have the issue.

But when these shenanigans get to be too much, you'll be better off upgrading. If your PC is crap you need a new one to be able to upgrade, well start saving now.
MonkehMaster Dec 6, 2023 @ 8:42am 
steam isnt pulling any plug, but eventually steam will stop functioning on win 7, but we have no clue how long that will be.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A

also, the guide that was posted, has good stuff in it.

that all being said, eventually you will want to "upgrade" your OS further down the line, w/e it is you have, will run win 10 and 11, 11's hardware requirements can be bypassed, as well as the microsoft account (for those who dont want it), or... which is likely for majority of people, further down the line buying a prebuilt desktop pc or a laptop you will likely be given win 11, or it will be win 12 when its released from beta.

also to mention, win 10 will be losing support from microsoft in 2025, soon after on steam just like now with win 7, so in the end, its either linux, win 11 or 12, or possibly steamOS 3.

side note, im dual booting win 7 and win 11, will likely toss a steamOS 3 installation on my pc as well, when steam releases it.
Last edited by MonkehMaster; Dec 6, 2023 @ 8:46am
effinjay Dec 6, 2023 @ 9:51am 
I'm in the same boat. I do have a decent W10 gaming laptop and for anything that works fine with W10 I'm golden. The problem is legacy games on my W7 desktop.They aren't pulling the plug entirely from what I can tell. But the clock is ticking. So the prioity is to focus your playtime for the next x months on anything that fits into the following categories:

a) cant be run independent of the Steam launcher
b) runs better (or at all) only on W7
c) isnt available on another service thats well known for GAMES that are OLD and GOOD
d) cant be obtained on CD/DVD on amazone or eb@y*
e) cant be obtained somehow through ways we dont talk about here

*Assuming the patches/updates that might be needed are available somewhere

Most games, even legacy ones do run on W10 or will after some fiddling and patching etc. Many are also available on that website of GAMES that are OLD and GOOD who do a stellar job of getting said games functioning on modern systems. The tricky ones are the things like Mass Effect and other EA or other labels who require their own app to get into.
Last edited by effinjay; Dec 6, 2023 @ 10:00am
Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
steam isnt pulling any plug, but eventually steam will stop functioning on win 7, but we have no clue how long that will be.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A

also, the guide that was posted, has good stuff in it.

that all being said, eventually you will want to "upgrade" your OS further down the line, w/e it is you have, will run win 10 and 11, 11's hardware requirements can be bypassed, as well as the microsoft account (for those who dont want it), or... which is likely for majority of people, further down the line buying a prebuilt desktop pc or a laptop you will likely be given win 11, or it will be win 12 when its released from beta.

also to mention, win 10 will be losing support from microsoft in 2025, soon after on steam just like now with win 7, so in the end, its either linux, win 11 or 12, or possibly steamOS 3.

side note, im dual booting win 7 and win 11, will likely toss a steamOS 3 installation on my pc as well, when steam releases it.


I don't think there is anything written like what you shared here, yes, it's possible that it was there for a while, because the Steam client update.
Updated June 14, 2023

Fixed link in the client to a support article detailing the end of support for Windows 7/8/8.1.
„Support for Windows 7 and Windows 8
As of January 1, 2024, Steam will officially stop supporting Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1, which means the Steam client will no longer work on them. To continue using games and other products purchased on Steam, you must update your system to a newer version.
This update is required because key features in the Steam client depend on the built-in version of Google Chrome, which no longer works on older versions of Windows. Additionally, future versions of Steam will require feature and security updates only available on Windows 10 and newer systems.

Although support will last until 2024,
then we strongly recommend that all Windows 7/8/8.1 users update beforehand. Microsoft ended security updates and support for Windows 7 in January 2020 and for Windows 8.1 in January 2023.
Computers running on these operating systems when connected to the Internet are susceptible to new versions of malware and other exploits for which patches will not be issued. These malicious programs may cause your computer, Steam, and games to malfunction or experience unexpected shutdowns.
This software can also be used to steal your Steam account login information and other services."

all I have to do is be offline and that's it, I don't have many games that I play online anymore, so I don't need it, I prefer the games I have for single-player

but as I noticed, your end of support is described differently, in Poland, as I translated, under the same number 4784-4F2B-1321-800A that appears in the link, a bit strange, so here in Europe they don't care
Last edited by [-=Bo-S=-]antyNWOvaccines; Dec 6, 2023 @ 10:35am
Iceira Dec 6, 2023 @ 11:30am 
its a bit late it was 6 years ago most ppl upgrade to win10 at 2017/18, lifecycle ende was been told by MS, and steam do have survey, and they adapt to how things is and what ppl have.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steamp

Windows 7 64 bit0.69%-0.38%
Windows 8.1 64 bit0.16%+0.03%
Windows 7 0.06%+0.06%
Last edited by Iceira; Dec 6, 2023 @ 11:46am
KinGoksu Dec 6, 2023 @ 2:03pm 
rip o7 GOAT OS
MonkehMaster Dec 6, 2023 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by -=Bo-S=-antyNWOvaccines:
Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
steam isnt pulling any plug, but eventually steam will stop functioning on win 7, but we have no clue how long that will be.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A

also, the guide that was posted, has good stuff in it.

that all being said, eventually you will want to "upgrade" your OS further down the line, w/e it is you have, will run win 10 and 11, 11's hardware requirements can be bypassed, as well as the microsoft account (for those who dont want it), or... which is likely for majority of people, further down the line buying a prebuilt desktop pc or a laptop you will likely be given win 11, or it will be win 12 when its released from beta.

also to mention, win 10 will be losing support from microsoft in 2025, soon after on steam just like now with win 7, so in the end, its either linux, win 11 or 12, or possibly steamOS 3.

side note, im dual booting win 7 and win 11, will likely toss a steamOS 3 installation on my pc as well, when steam releases it.


I don't think there is anything written like what you shared here, yes, it's possible that it was there for a while, because the Steam client update.
Updated June 14, 2023

Fixed link in the client to a support article detailing the end of support for Windows 7/8/8.1.
„Support for Windows 7 and Windows 8
As of January 1, 2024, Steam will officially stop supporting Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1, which means the Steam client will no longer work on them. To continue using games and other products purchased on Steam, you must update your system to a newer version.
This update is required because key features in the Steam client depend on the built-in version of Google Chrome, which no longer works on older versions of Windows. Additionally, future versions of Steam will require feature and security updates only available on Windows 10 and newer systems.

Although support will last until 2024,
then we strongly recommend that all Windows 7/8/8.1 users update beforehand. Microsoft ended security updates and support for Windows 7 in January 2020 and for Windows 8.1 in January 2023.
Computers running on these operating systems when connected to the Internet are susceptible to new versions of malware and other exploits for which patches will not be issued. These malicious programs may cause your computer, Steam, and games to malfunction or experience unexpected shutdowns.
This software can also be used to steal your Steam account login information and other services."

all I have to do is be offline and that's it, I don't have many games that I play online anymore, so I don't need it, I prefer the games I have for single-player

but as I noticed, your end of support is described differently, in Poland, as I translated, under the same number 4784-4F2B-1321-800A that appears in the link, a bit strange, so here in Europe they don't care

ya, the one you mentioned is the original message/notification, the one i linked is the new support message.

i wonder why yours still says the old one lol.
Last edited by MonkehMaster; Dec 6, 2023 @ 2:18pm
Originally posted by Iceira:
its a bit late it was 6 years ago most ppl upgrade to win10 at 2017/18, lifecycle ende was been told by MS, and steam do have survey, and they adapt to how things is and what ppl have.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steamp

Windows 7 64 bit0.69%-0.38%
Windows 8.1 64 bit0.16%+0.03%
Windows 7 0.06%+0.06%


remember that not everyone takes part in surveys, many users do not share it for statistics, you can put such surveys you know where
Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
Originally posted by -=Bo-S=-antyNWOvaccines:


I don't think there is anything written like what you shared here, yes, it's possible that it was there for a while, because the Steam client update.
Updated June 14, 2023

Fixed link in the client to a support article detailing the end of support for Windows 7/8/8.1.
„Support for Windows 7 and Windows 8
As of January 1, 2024, Steam will officially stop supporting Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1, which means the Steam client will no longer work on them. To continue using games and other products purchased on Steam, you must update your system to a newer version.
This update is required because key features in the Steam client depend on the built-in version of Google Chrome, which no longer works on older versions of Windows. Additionally, future versions of Steam will require feature and security updates only available on Windows 10 and newer systems.

Although support will last until 2024,
then we strongly recommend that all Windows 7/8/8.1 users update beforehand. Microsoft ended security updates and support for Windows 7 in January 2020 and for Windows 8.1 in January 2023.
Computers running on these operating systems when connected to the Internet are susceptible to new versions of malware and other exploits for which patches will not be issued. These malicious programs may cause your computer, Steam, and games to malfunction or experience unexpected shutdowns.
This software can also be used to steal your Steam account login information and other services."

all I have to do is be offline and that's it, I don't have many games that I play online anymore, so I don't need it, I prefer the games I have for single-player

but as I noticed, your end of support is described differently, in Poland, as I translated, under the same number 4784-4F2B-1321-800A that appears in the link, a bit strange, so here in Europe they don't care

ya, the one you mentioned is the original message/notification, the one i linked is the new support message.

i wonder why yours still says the old one lol.


question: are you from the USA or Europe? if it's possible in the USA, you can fight them better there, we have regulations that allow this, but unfortunately, I sent inquiries to European institutions, unfortunately, if Steam/Valve were from Europe, they would take care of their regulations and contract, where I pointed out a lot of contradictions among them, but,
that Vavle is based in America, unfortunately our local institutions such as Consumer Protection no longer apply, or a legal advisor or lawyer, but a large sum of money goes here, I cannot afford to file a case against Vave, I would read their regulations myself and mention what it's wrong,
I've already read it myself and I saw some contradictions with what they describe, e.g. about the end of support, when I posted a post, they deleted it, I described what was wrong with them, but the truth should be removed, as I see, it didn't work for them
crunchyfrog Dec 7, 2023 @ 2:31am 
You can indeed fiddle with settings and play offline, but why on earth do you want to keep doing that and wrestling with the service?

Let me point this out to you from personal experience.

I play on a lot of platforms and always have. I have a lot of games, old and new. I play them all. I also have a lot of musical equipemt (synths, drum machines and such), plus audio recording gear galore, FX units and such.

I've been using Windows since 3.1. Naturally I've often had to have the issue of buying new gear back then and wrestling with drivers.

Under Win 7 about 15% of my games, old and new, didn't work correctly or at all. Quite a number of my audio bits didn't work properly either. Many would crash regularly, or quite commonly you'd find the IO drivers would simply not work properly resulting in no sound.

When I switched to Windows 10, I was surprised to find that things just worked. I kept trying games and so far I have found ONE game that doesn't work on Win 10 - All Zombies must die.

With my audio gear there isn't a single thing I've found that not only works , but pretty flawlessly. I used to find it quite common to have MIDI note latency under Win7, but it just doesn't happen on 10 (unless you overload your MIDI devices and hamper the CPU).

So it would be FAR better in your interest to simply fully upgrade to 11 as it works the same as 10.
AustrAlien2010 Dec 7, 2023 @ 2:45am 
I honestly don't know. Test it. Windows 95 cannot go online anymore. The entire internet will stop running at some point.

I know there are certain games where you can just turn back the system clock, and they will start running again.
Last edited by AustrAlien2010; Dec 8, 2023 @ 3:59pm
Zukabazuka Dec 7, 2023 @ 2:55am 
Originally posted by -=Bo-S=-antyNWOvaccines:
Originally posted by Iceira:
its a bit late it was 6 years ago most ppl upgrade to win10 at 2017/18, lifecycle ende was been told by MS, and steam do have survey, and they adapt to how things is and what ppl have.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steamp

Windows 7 64 bit0.69%-0.38%
Windows 8.1 64 bit0.16%+0.03%
Windows 7 0.06%+0.06%


remember that not everyone takes part in surveys, many users do not share it for statistics, you can put such surveys you know where
Well if all W7 users thought like that maybe that's the reason for it going away. No one bothered to tell valve what systems they were using.
Originally posted by crunchyfrog:
You can indeed fiddle with settings and play offline, but why on earth do you want to keep doing that and wrestling with the service?

Let me point this out to you from personal experience.

I play on a lot of platforms and always have. I have a lot of games, old and new. I play them all. I also have a lot of musical equipemt (synths, drum machines and such), plus audio recording gear galore, FX units and such.

I've been using Windows since 3.1. Naturally I've often had to have the issue of buying new gear back then and wrestling with drivers.

Under Win 7 about 15% of my games, old and new, didn't work correctly or at all. Quite a number of my audio bits didn't work properly either. Many would crash regularly, or quite commonly you'd find the IO drivers would simply not work properly resulting in no sound.

When I switched to Windows 10, I was surprised to find that things just worked. I kept trying games and so far I have found ONE game that doesn't work on Win 10 - All Zombies must die.

With my audio gear there isn't a single thing I've found that not only works , but pretty flawlessly. I used to find it quite common to have MIDI note latency under Win7, but it just doesn't happen on 10 (unless you overload your MIDI devices and hamper the CPU).

So it would be FAR better in your interest to simply fully upgrade to 11 as it works the same as 10.


stop talking nonsense, somehow Windows 7 works fine and games work fine, but on Windows 10 when I tried to run Fallout 76 it took a few minutes and it turned off, on Windows 7 it works perfectly, it may all depend on the hardware you have, if you have a new one computer, I'm not surprised that something doesn't work for you on Win 7,
because drivers have not been made available for Win 7 for a long time, but many publishers, such as MSI, still provide drivers there, I have MSI equipment, motherboard and graphics card, so WIn 7 works great for me, and after switching to Win10, I see a drop performance, there's nothing you can do about it, even game mode doesn't help,
my graphics are muddy even in some game modding programs, the letters are getting blurry, I don't have such problems on Win7, the same thing happens when reinstalling the Avira antivirus is troublesome on Win10, I tried to uninstall Avira and access was denied, something was deleted, and I tried to remove it and it requires permissions admin, where I have everything set,
that I can modify the system, unfortunately, there are still some strange errors with access denied, and the only thing I can do to get rid of the antivirus is to re-upload the system, I don't see any other option, there are only some errors on Win10, here the program does not work, from time to time the reinstallation must be of the program, Win10 is a failure and, on top of that, surveillance
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