Weird Download behavior...
My Steam downloads worked just fine until I discovered a weird problem:

My downloads go around 5 Mb/s and my writing speed on my HDD 60 Mb/s and both seem to work at the same time... but once the download is finished it just goes on and on only with the green hardware writing speed... It goes on for a far too long time like far too long...

One Example:
I made a 200 MB Ark update and both downloading and writing seemed to work but after it downloaded the 200 Mb it still went on... with a writing speed of 30 Mb/s and an expected time of 20 HOURS! The math doesnt seem to work out on that one I think...

If you know a way to fix this please let me know!
Thanks.
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rawWwRrr Aug 25, 2020 @ 3:30pm 
there are updates that are not a direct download of files. there are some updates that require decompressing, decrypting, and patching. all of this will take place either during or after the download is finished. if you see activity, blue or green, then the update is taking place.
Last edited by rawWwRrr; Aug 25, 2020 @ 3:30pm
Iceira Aug 25, 2020 @ 10:34pm 
I bet this is a laptop. with 1 harddisk
Last edited by Iceira; Aug 25, 2020 @ 10:34pm
@Iceira no... actually it is a 1TB SSD and 3TB HDD PC with I7 and 1070TI... not the greatest off all... but does fine for me
crunchyfrog Aug 25, 2020 @ 11:51pm 
Ark SE is notorious for the weird way it downloads. So it;s highly likely you experienced this.

Ark downloads chunk of data, stop, then unpacks and rewites the data, before carrying on again.

So let it do it's thing.

If it's carrying on far too long, ensure that you aren't running Steam on a drive with any more than 90% used as you will get performance wonkiness like this.

And as for that 90%, make sure that any download you make leave well within that 90% AFTER download. The actually workspace neede for many downloads can be THREE TIMES the total file length.


Last edited by crunchyfrog; Aug 25, 2020 @ 11:53pm
Iceira Aug 26, 2020 @ 12:54am 
Originally posted by Kamerad Kamaramann Kugelmodus:
@Iceira no... actually it is a 1TB SSD and 3TB HDD PC with I7 and 1070TI... not the greatest off all... but does fine for me

alot better explanation and detail, it ruleout so many other old outdate pc setup, and you just confirm it's not that. and try see it as could have been even worse setup.

we are not after ppl for what they have and have to use now.

as @crunchyfrog point out Arc and PoE seem to have alot attention , only very fastest disk and pc dont even notice other then they total DL and Replace almost same as reinstall all, i cant help at ArK SE , dont have it, but its still a issue.

as
crunchyfrog explan looklike Super compressed file , and your cpu have to unpak and write it and why it stop , because your pc has not caught up or not faster enough to do it and why DL is reduce you cant keep up. ( this is network in abc if you cant recive data you send back icmp and told sender "i cant do it captain" sorry for the humor , but sometime that is learn the best way with such terms. )

just so you know Super compressed files is even more compact then zip file on MAX and steam and other have server to repack huge DATA with it. problem is our CPU actual aient fast enough to unpak it sametime you DL on 1 GB network , things have change.

so your disk is still slowest media in our pc. sure i can say alot harder word , but we have to live with it untill next gen storage solution is fast enough.
Last edited by Iceira; Aug 26, 2020 @ 1:03am
MancSoulja Aug 26, 2020 @ 1:11am 
Steam downloads aren't just compressed they're encrypted, so the CPU needs to decrypt the archive before it can even start extracting it.

This is a great read on exactly how Steam downloads work.

https://steamdb.info/blog/steam-download-system/
Last edited by MancSoulja; Aug 26, 2020 @ 1:12am
Iceira Aug 26, 2020 @ 1:14am 
do you have enough free room on disk , you know old win 10% free advice
and OS with 50% free seem to have faster respond time ( not so many know this ) its not a advice its more faster dump data with lesser time waste of looklike for free room debat, if you can call it that. ( or best conditions )

and do check idle status ( windows resources manager inside task manager )
you are not the first user caugth a app or disk defrag run and take performance out of disk because user dont know it was running . im not saying you have it . im saying it will not help if you have multi process ongoing without you know it.
Last edited by Iceira; Aug 26, 2020 @ 1:15am
xarvn Aug 26, 2020 @ 2:23am 
Originally posted by MancSoulja:
Steam downloads aren't just compressed they're encrypted, so the CPU needs to decrypt the archive before it can even start extracting it.

This is a great read on exactly how Steam downloads work.

https://steamdb.info/blog/steam-download-system/
Thanks for the link. Interesting read.
raphaellllll Aug 26, 2020 @ 2:31am 
thanks
crunchyfrog Aug 26, 2020 @ 5:19am 
Originally posted by MancSoulja:
Steam downloads aren't just compressed they're encrypted, so the CPU needs to decrypt the archive before it can even start extracting it.

This is a great read on exactly how Steam downloads work.

https://steamdb.info/blog/steam-download-system/

Nice link and a decent read. Thanks for this.

(Plus, I expect quality info from a Manc :) )
Thank you all for your help! I fixed the problem by moving my game to my SSD and then back to my HDD (dont know why this would ifx it).
Iceira Aug 26, 2020 @ 7:59am 
hmm Dont make sense. ( could this be a disk deframentation issue, maybe ? )
and respect 10% free room old win rule advice ?
crunchyfrog Aug 26, 2020 @ 8:14pm 
Originally posted by Kamerad Kamaramann Kugelmodus:
Thank you all for your help! I fixed the problem by moving my game to my SSD and then back to my HDD (dont know why this would ifx it).

That may hint at being a fragmented drive, because that's what you'd expect to happen.

So, just to be clear here - are you running your hard drives fuller than 90%, and have defragged them regularly?

If you haven't you haven't solved anything because it will happen again.

I am NOT running my drives on 90%+ (SSD 60% and HDD 50%) and I defragg them every 3-6 Months
Iceira Aug 27, 2020 @ 1:25am 
Well if you cant repete the problem then, you wont get any closer to what is going on.

And you dont have partions on the disk , ( aka. dual write issue on 2 logical drevs, thats also a no go. that is same as as muti copy on same disk, most know this , but you can forget it thats its same disk doing two job.
Last edited by Iceira; Aug 27, 2020 @ 1:31am
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