I'm starting to see a lot of games (Starfield, Cyberpunk) start to advertise 6g vram for min specs.

[Speaker For The Dead]

I don't believe this means the game will not be playable for me, but i'm not sure these days. Any insights?

[Elucidator]

It's likely the game engine, using some kind of ai model to do some of the graphical calculations. Due to this it requires more memory. There is also the assumption people have 8GB VRAM at the moment and will upgrade to at least 12.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

(I also have too little vram, so you're not alone on that note)

[Speaker For The Dead]

wow, this is the first time 4 vram has been a hindrance for me. Didn't realize how behind the curve I was...

[Speaker For The Dead]

Originally posted by starbuck:

Often u never need the meet the requirements they set out, i can almost always run it with way less, have not yet met any games i cant run with my 4 vram either, tho games like starfield i bet would not be super optimized even on low settings, but i bet it will be posible with 4. You can always refund it if it turns out it cant :)

Apparently for Starfield, and I now assume Cyberpunk (acfter update), it is the case. I'm bummed

[Lil C]-[ew C]-[ew is ☂д☂]

Don't forget with the upcoming newest DLC for Cyberpunk 2077, the whole demanded hardware requirement is about to change. I was planning...damn I've been stalling for two years...anyway I was planning to build a new PC when I was focusing to get at minimum 4-6 gb video ram video card when....WHOA!
Cyberpunk 2077 announce a new experimental graphic and unwelcome setting that will exceed the minimum requirements.
I mean if they are experimental, can only be tested on optimal so these requirements are supposed to change but they are affecting the minimum category as well.
Now I am being punished to search for video cards with 6-8 gb vram at minimum.

[Speaker For The Dead]

Originally posted by Lil C-ew C-ew is ☂д☂:

Don't forget with the upcoming newest DLC for Cyberpunk 2077, the whole demanded hardware requirement is about to change. :angry_creep: I was planning...damn I've been stalling for two years...anyway I was planning to build a new PC when I was focusing to get at minimum 4-6 gb video ram video card when....WHOA!
Cyberpunk 2077 announce a new experimental graphic and unwelcome setting that will exceed the minimum requirements.
I mean if they are experimental, can only be tested on optimal so these requirements are supposed to change but they are affecting the minimum category as well.
Now I am being punished to search for video cards with 6-8 gb vram at minimum.

I think a lot of people who are currently playing Cyberpunk with 4 vram have no idea in a few days their game will no longer be playable. CDPR the backlash 2.0 is coming.

[Ogami]

Yeah, nowadays 8GB of VRAM is the entry level, and 16 GB shapes up to be the standard for the next years.
Texture quality and resolution just goes up and up with new game releases and the VRAM space becomes more and more important because of that.
Add to that other popular applications that exploded over the last year like AI Image generation which also starts at like 8GB of VRAM minimum and the VRAM requirements will just go up.

[Speaker For The Dead]

I've been gaming totally fine with 4vram up until Starfield min specs were revealed.

I'll be able to play Baldurs Gate 3 for example.

It sucks because all my other specs meet or exceed min req. It's just the vram,,,,,,,

[Speaker For The Dead]

Are there mods that will be able to downgrade the vram req??? Is that something modders are capable of?

[Chompman]

This is nothing new as game requirements increase over time and you need to upgrade to more modern hardware.

No modern GPU has only had 4gb of vram except lower end ones and this was always a risk getting those the past 2-3 years if you wanted to play more demanding games with.

[Speaker For The Dead]

Originally posted by Chompman:

This is nothing new as game requirements increase over time and you need to upgrade to more modern hardware.

No modern GPU has only had 4gb of vram except lower end ones and this was always a risk getting those the past 2-3 years if you wanted to play more demanding games with.

I can play any triple a game prior to 2023. You're wrong

[Chompman]

Originally posted by OmninmO:

Originally posted by Chompman:

This is nothing new as game requirements increase over time and you need to upgrade to more modern hardware.

No modern GPU has only had 4gb of vram except lower end ones and this was always a risk getting those the past 2-3 years if you wanted to play more demanding games with.

I can play any triple a game prior to 2023. You're wrong

Then try starfield and if it doesn't work get a refund until you can run it.

Many games may work with lower end hardware but that doesn't mean you will not suffer and have to use lower quality settings because of it.

But as time progresses this becomes a factor here just like when games started requiring more then 2gb vram.

[Ogami]

Originally posted by OmninmO:

Are there mods that will be able to downgrade the vram req??? Is that something modders are capable of?

Play in 1080p and set texture quality to low or medium.
On low Cyberpunk at the moment barely uses 2 GB of VRAM, i doubt this will triple with the new patch.

Its really just the texture size that is the biggest culprit of using up VRAM space.
Especially ULTRA quality textures eat VRAM like crazy.
I would just try how it runs and then gradually lower texture quality and some of the heavier post process settings.

I am pretty sure you will be able to play Cyberpunk with just 4 GB of VRAM.
There are people who play "4GB VRAM minimum" games with 1 GB of VRAM.
In the end its just how much you are willing to compromise and turn down your graphic settings.

[Speaker For The Dead]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Originally posted by OmninmO:

Are there mods that will be able to downgrade the vram req??? Is that something modders are capable of?

Play in 1080p and set texture quality to low or medium.
On low Cyberpunk at the moment barely uses 2 GB of VRAM, i doubt this will triple with the new patch.

Its really just the texture size that is the biggest culprit of using up VRAM space.
Especially ULTRA quality textures eat VRAM like crazy.
I would just try how it runs and then gradually lower texture quality and some of the heavier post process settings.

I am pretty sure you will be able to play Cyberpunk with just 4 GB of VRAM.
There are people who play "4GB VRAM minimum" games with 1 GB of VRAM.
In the end its just how much you are willing to compromise and turn down your graphic settings.

Great! I'll wait and see once the update gets released...

My hopes are no longer completely dashed.

Starfield is apparently unplayable with only 4...If you really bump down textures and play at 1080p maybe its possible...

[Ogami]

Originally posted by OmninmO:

Great! I'll wait and see once the update gets released...

My hopes are no longer completely dashed.

Starfield is apparently unplayable with only 4...If you really bump down textures and play at 1080p maybe its possible...

Starfield is just a unoptimized mess at the moment.
I tried it on Gamepass with my Ryzen 3600x, a RTX 2080 with 8GB of VRAM and 32GB of RAM and i got FPS fluctuations from 20-50 all the time in 1440p, medium settings.
The game is just terrible optimized.
When players with a 1500 Dollar 4090 have problems holding constant 60 FPS in 4K then your game is not programmed well.

[Speaker For The Dead]

See, I didn't have to worry about 4k or ray-tracing since i'm so lowend, and that has allowed me to sorta slip by and enjoy these triple a games....up until now.

The vram is my undoing.