API Trade Scam

[Fat Tony]

I was sending my newly opened factory new fade gloves to a skinport to list for sale. The trade confirmation came into my phone to send to the skin to the bot and I verified the account was correct and confirmed the trade on my app. Following this the trade became canceled and was sent to a DIFFERENT ACCOUNT. NOT THE ONE A CONFIRMED ON THE APP. I never received a confirmation to send to this account. I've been stolen from somehow and have my account secured.

This $5000 was going to be so important to me, valve support, steam support, anyone please please help me get this back. Someone was able to change the trade on the back end! My account is secure! This happened 30 min ago, they are trade locked in some account that I never sent them too. Please help me support,

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Fat Tony eredeti hozzászólása:

SnakeFist eredeti hozzászólása:

Steam will give you nothing back so take it as a expensive lesson not to use 3rd party trading sites.

What would you do if you open a skin selling for $5000 when steam caps at $2000?

I wouldn't use a 3rd party site to sell it that's the difference. Plus I don't play csgo so I don't have to worry plus my inventory is private so even if I did play csgo no one will see my high price items.

[Fat Tony]

Does no one realize they are the problem? If the community actually gave a damn and spoke up steam would do something but when everyone just accepts steam should allow this to go on they obviously will. Thanks for all the supportive comments everyone

[Der Kaiser]

I mean you traded outside of the Steam approved system and tried to sell a item drop from Steam for real money. BOTH which are forbidden by the TOS you agreed to when creating your account.
And somehow Steam is at fault here?

[d3str0y3r]

Fat Tony eredeti hozzászólása:

Does no one realize they are the problem? If the community actually gave a damn and spoke up steam would do something but when everyone just accepts steam should allow this to go on they obviously will. Thanks for all the supportive comments everyone

Why should Steam have to pay for YOUR ♥♥♥♥ up?

YOU are the one that used 3rd party websites
YOU are the one that got your account compromised

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement

[KalGimpa]

Fat Tony eredeti hozzászólása:

Does no one realize they are the problem? If the community actually gave a damn and spoke up steam would do something but when everyone just accepts steam should allow this to go on they obviously will. Thanks for all the supportive comments everyone

nope

i have zero intention of taking your blame

you screwed up somewhere. it happens

we all do it

learn from it

[Muppet among Puppets]

The api key trade cancelling should definitely not be possible.
That is a problem, and i only ever read about it when people tell how they were tricked by it.

Its a mistake.

[Legends]

The trade was cancelled before you confirmed, and the reveiver was made "lookalike".
Because your account was hijacked allready.

[chewboxa]

Fat Tony eredeti hozzászólása:

SnakeFist eredeti hozzászólása:

Steam will give you nothing back so take it as a expensive lesson not to use 3rd party trading sites.

What would you do if you open a skin selling for $5000 when steam caps at $2000?

$2000 > $0.

[N3tRunn3r]

Do all the steps which B-o-B has written down ASAP. Especially that part with the API key. Your items and/or money wont be restored, as it was your very own security fault (by Steam).

All you can do now is to:

- report scammer / hijacker
- report scamming site
- report issue to your local police/feds (via email) as we talk about "stolen" $2000 ~ $5000
- check on Steam if you see a highly different login zone/location of your account
- investigate further
- visit scammer at home
- do whatever you need to do
- never touch this piece of toxic CSGO software anymore, as CSGO was built for leagues only
- profit

[Teksura]

Fat Tony eredeti hozzászólása:

Does no one realize they are the problem? If the community actually gave a damn and spoke up steam would do something but when everyone just accepts steam should allow this to go on they obviously will. Thanks for all the supportive comments everyone

Actually, what you don't realize is that you are the problem.

Valve used to duplicate items when people lost them. However, this became a huge problem. Anytime they duplicated an item, they devalued the item in the process by increasing the supply. This was unfair to everyone else who had the item. Furthermore, scammers learned that they could just pretend to have their own accounts hijacked and they could get Valve to duplicate their items. This was such a big problem, that the community gave a damn and spoke up and Steam did something.

What they did was improve the security around accounts and trading by a pretty massive degree. At this point, you can only lose the items if on multiple points you ignore every red flag given to you.


You made the choice to use a site known for scamming people, ignoring Valve's own guidelines on how to avoid getting caught by a scam.

You are the one who gave this known scam website your login info when they asked you to give it to them, ignoring all rules of basic account security.

You made the choice to send them your item as a gift, acknowledging that you expect nothing in return.

You approved the trade without spending the seconds it would take to confirm it is going where you intended, instead opting to simply mash approve as fast as possible.

And after you did all of this, after you failed on multiple levels to follow simple account security steps, your proposed solution is to steal value from other users who are responsible? Your demand is that Valve should go back to a problematic solution to accommodate your unwillingness to take basic account security steps?

Absurd. If you weren't willing to take the security of your account and items seriously, why should anyone else? If you have seen the error of your ways, you can start taking your account security more seriously.

If you want to avoid repeating your mistakes, follow these simple rules:


Never trade outside the Steam Trading system.
Never trade for "credit".
Always conduct your trades in a single trade offer.
If a website asks you to log in through Steam, leave. Visit Steam in a new tab and confirm your log in. Then you may go back to the previous site. If they still ask for your Steam login information, you know that's not Steam because you're already logged into Steam.
Always double check before approving the confirmation to make sure it's going where you think it's supposed to go.
Do not use shady third party sites that expect you to break the above rules.

[Blackhand007]

Never use a 3rd party site, ValVe did warn you and you apparently can't read.

[Ducks on Fire]

Fat Tony eredeti hozzászólása:

SnakeFist eredeti hozzászólása:

Steam will give you nothing back so take it as a expensive lesson not to use 3rd party trading sites.

What would you do if you open a skin selling for $5000 when steam caps at $2000?

Not let greed override my judgement and use unsupported sites to trade. This is entirely on you.

Fat Tony eredeti hozzászólása:

Does no one realize they are the problem? If the community actually gave a damn and spoke up steam would do something but when everyone just accepts steam should allow this to go on they obviously will. Thanks for all the supportive comments everyone

The community does realize the problem and they do speak up. They tell people not to use third party sites and to avoid other things that can lead to their accounts being compromised. People like you just don't want to listen. You just think that you can do whatever you want and the consequences should fall on others despite you intentionally trying to circumvent the systems they have in palce.

I'm not one of those people who characterize all scam victims as stupid, or greedy, but here it is definitely the case that you were just being greedy and it came back to bite you. Valve is not going to take responsibility for your poor choices and we aren't going to feel bad for not supporting you.

[J4MESOX4D]

Fat Tony eredeti hozzászólása:

MoonC A T eredeti hozzászólása:

$5 or $5000. Doesn't matter. Not happening.

Also what has this world come to when we're trading $5000 intangibly valued pixels?

weird comment, and steam has reversed trades in the past with this situation. Supply and demand does it's thing, 99% of the worlds money does not exist in paper form

One-time restorations in exceptional circumstances were stopped in 2015 when Steam introduced 2FA confirmation mechanisms. Yet you still confirmed a contaminated trade whilst your account was compromised. Both instances are totally on you.

Even with a shadow-hijacked account, you could've still adequately vetted the trade window but instead you just confirmed it. This sent the items to the scammers who were impersonating your original intended target on the trade they bot-cancelled after they intercepted your trade activity via the API key they placed on your account.

You had two bites at the cherry and failed twice so incompetence is not compensated.

[TheOnlyPavel]

You're not gonna get you skins back , steam is not associated with any skins site on google . Prob is not skinport's fault and yours . Try chat support with them and see what happend

[Prof.Jackie]

Fat Tony eredeti hozzászólása:

I was sending my newly opened factory new fade gloves to a skinport to list for sale.

So you used a scam site and got scammed. What a suprise