Why does VAC ban effect other games?

[Zowee]

I was VAC banned on TF2 for obvious reasons, I didn't really like it anymore. But I just bought L4D2 and it says I can't play on VAC servers. I mean it's kind of a TF2 thing, not L4D. I don't even know if there's any L4D hacks out there or anything.

[TombRaiser]

Because L4D2 is on a VAC server.

[Zowee]

Originally posted by TombRaiser:

Because L4D2 is on a VAC server.

So, everything with VAC servers will VAC ban me from the game? Does it go away? Or is it permanent.

[HEART]

Perm

[Zowee]

Originally posted by ✴ Celestial Fatality ✴:

Perm

Well, that sucks

[HEART]

For you, yes. For the rest of us who don't cheat, it's a terrific service.

[Discussions_Acc]

You manage to find and install cheats but clicking that info button next to your ban is too much work.

[The Giving One]

Originally posted by Erin:

it says I can't play on VAC servers.

Post the exact wording of the message you see. Was it like this ?

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2117-ilzv-2837&l=english

[The Giving One]

OP is VACed in TF2. He should not be VACed in LFD2, right ? I suspect he has a VAC error and is making that common mistake in understanding what is going on. I could be wrong, but it happens alot. He only said he cannot play on VAC servers for LFD2 and the VAC error would cause that also.

[HEART]

Originally posted by The Giving One:

OP is VACed in TF2. He should not be VACed in LFD2, right ? I suspect he has a VAC error and is making that common mistake in understanding what is going on. I could be wrong, but it happens alot. He only said he cannot play on VAC servers for LFD2 and the VAC error would cause that also.

Cheating in one of the following Source games or a Source mod will result in a VAC ban for all games in the list:

Counter-Strike: Source
Half-Life 2: Deathmatch
Day of Defeat: Source
Team Fortress 2

The list being this... http://store.steampowered.com/search/?category2=8


SOURCE: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7849-Radz-6869#vacgames

[The Giving One]

Originally posted by ✴ Celestial Fatality ✴:

Originally posted by The Giving One:

OP is VACed in TF2. He should not be VACed in LFD2, right ? I suspect he has a VAC error and is making that common mistake in understanding what is going on. I could be wrong, but it happens alot. He only said he cannot play on VAC servers for LFD2 and the VAC error would cause that also.

Cheating in one of the following Source games or a Source mod will result in a VAC ban for all games in the list:

Counter-Strike: Source
Half-Life 2: Deathmatch
Day of Defeat: Source
Team Fortress 2

The list being this...http://store.steampowered.com/search/?category2=8

Yes, you are right. I double checked that list also. LFD2 is not on it. So he should not be VACed in that game, right ? I still suspect it is a VAC error unless I am missing something here. Please fill me in if so, and thanks.

[HEART]

Originally posted by The Giving One:

Originally posted by ✴ Celestial Fatality ✴:

Cheating in one of the following Source games or a Source mod will result in a VAC ban for all games in the list:

Counter-Strike: Source
Half-Life 2: Deathmatch
Day of Defeat: Source
Team Fortress 2

The list being this...http://store.steampowered.com/search/?category2=8

Yes, you are right. I double checked that list also. LFD2 is not on it. So he should not be VACed in that game, right ? I still suspect it is a VAC error unless I am missing something here. Please fill me in if so, and thanks.

This is where the wording is ambiguous. I think "games in the list" refers to the link preceding the statement, not the actual games in that short list.

[The Giving One]

Originally posted by ✴ Celestial Fatality ✴:

This is where the wording is ambiguous. I think "games in the list" refers to the link preceding the statement, not the actual games in that short list.

Forgive me, but I have always gone by the pinned thread in the VAC forum and in that pinned thread, there is a link to this page...and LFD2 is not in the list. So I suspect it is the VAC error. I wish the OP would reply so we could be sure it is not that and therefore help him or her with the error in the proper forum if necessary.

http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/882959527688934488/

VAC Enabled Games

Please see the list of VAC enabled games on the Steam Store.
Valve games

The Valve Anti-Cheat system is enabled for servers displaying the Secured shield logo.

Cheating in one of the following Source games or a Source mod will result in a VAC ban for all games in the list:

Counter-Strike: Source
Half-Life 2: Deathmatch
Day of Defeat: Source
Team Fortress 2

Note:

If you receive a VAC ban in any of the Source Engine games listed above, that VAC ban will cause your non-purchased Team Fortress 2 inventory to be removed from the account.

Cheating in one of the following Gold Source games will result in a VAC ban for all games in the list:

Counter-Strike
Condition Zero
Ricochet
Day of Defeat
Team Fortress Classic
Half-Life: Deathmatch
Deathmatch Classic

Note:

Excluding the games listed above, VAC bans will only apply to the game the cheat was detected in. For example, a VAC ban in Modern Warfare 2 will not affect Modern Warfare 3.

[HEART]

Yes, agreed. I do, however, have a hard time believing that LFD2 would not be included seeing that it is a VALVE game.

[The Giving One]

Originally posted by ✴ Celestial Fatality ✴:

Yes, agreed. I do, however, have a hard time believing that LFD2 would not be included seeing that it is a VALVE game.

You are absolutely correct, and that would make sense to me also. I just wish OP would reply to see if it actually is the VAC error or click the "?" next to VAC status on his or her account and confirm he or she is actually VAC banned in LFD2 also. That should show what games he or she is VAC banned in completely, as far as I know.

[Kiwi]

The way it works is you get vac banned from lets say CS:S You will be vac banned from any game that uses the same engine, Examples are left 4 dead, TF2.