Graphics card pricing vs PC pricing.

[Freighttrainx]

Ok, So after many hours of looking for a decent graphics card with an average price, I couldn't find too many. But I've found out that the Graphics card itself is more than an actual PC. My PC itself as a whole costed around $500, but the graphics card I want to get is around $200 to $300 more than my PC itself
Why is that? Why do graphics card cost more than an average PC?

[fluxtorrent]

it probably has more memory, processing power, and bandwidth then the rest of your pc combined, in a smaller package. It is basically a minipc unto it self architecture wise and thus the complexity is reflected in the cost to design and make itand is passed on to you via capitalsm

[Starwhite]

You can also play most games with a $100 one unless you just need those extra Frames Per Second or you think the game has to look really fancy and shiny to mask the total lack of content. Still happily playing all games I want with my trusty old GTX 560. :)

[Freighttrainx]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Starwhite:

You can also play most games with a $100 one unless you just need those extra Frames Per Second or you think the game has to look really fancy and shiny to mask the total lack of content. Still happily playing all games I want with my trusty old GTX 560. :)

Would this be a goodish card ? The ASUS Radeon R7 360 OC 2GB

[Starwhite]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Freighttrainx:

Would this be a goodish card ? The ASUS Radeon R7 360 OC 2GB

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2742111/difference-gpu.html

[Freighttrainx]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Starwhite:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Freighttrainx:

Would this be a goodish card ? The ASUS Radeon R7 360 OC 2GB

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2742111/difference-gpu.html

Ah I see

[Freighttrainx]

I'd probably want to spend no more than $100-$150. THat's the range I'm looking at right now.
Or if I can find a graphics card that costs much less than $1o0 dollars and is a reasonable good one, that'd be even better

[Freighttrainx]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Starwhite:

You can also play most games with a $100 one unless you just need those extra Frames Per Second or you think the game has to look really fancy and shiny to mask the total lack of content. Still happily playing all games I want with my trusty old GTX 560. :)

GTX560?! Ouch, how's that card? I think in the 900 series is what I think you should be aiming for my freind. I'm not trying to say the one you have is bad, but for better resolution and everything, you should probably aim for the 900 series. If you can afford it that is.

[Starwhite]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Freighttrainx:

GTX560?! Ouch, how's that card? I think in the 900 series is what I think you should be aiming for my freind. I'm not trying to say the one you have is bad, but for better resolution and everything, you should probably aim for the 900 series. If you can afford it that is.

It's still great, quick googling tells me it's about on par with 360/750Ti in power and cost me 50€ used from a friend. And a new bigger monitor gives me more resolution, not wasting my money on something I don't need. After the monitor would come bigger/faster SSD, more HDD space, another 16GB of RAM and many other things before upgrading GPU. In fact it's one of the least important parts so they get recycled from old PC even when every other part is brand new. I focus on games with actual content and gameplay, if I want fancy graphics I'll just watch a movie or out of the window. :)

[Freighttrainx]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Starwhite:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Freighttrainx:

GTX560?! Ouch, how's that card? I think in the 900 series is what I think you should be aiming for my freind. I'm not trying to say the one you have is bad, but for better resolution and everything, you should probably aim for the 900 series. If you can afford it that is.

It's still great, quick googling tells me it's about on par with 360/750Ti in power and cost me 50€ used from a friend. And a new bigger monitor gives me more resolution, not wasting my money on something I don't need. After the monitor would come bigger/faster SSD, more HDD space, another 16GB of RAM and many other things before upgrading GPU. In fact it's one of the least important parts so they get recycled from old PC even when every other part is brand new. I focus on games with actual content and gameplay, if I want fancy graphics I'll just watch a movie or out of the window. :)

So if I'm gonna want to play games( Like Train sim 2016 for instance) at high quality graphics ( Not the highest) Which garphics card would you recommend?

[Starwhite]

How should I know what that game requires? Go ask on the game's forums maybe, or check reviews elsewhere.

[Freighttrainx]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Starwhite:

How should I know what that game requires? Go ask on the game's forums maybe, or check reviews elsewhere.

Ok Thank you

[Start_Running]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Freighttrainx:

Ok, So after many hours of looking for a decent graphics card with an average price, I couldn't find too many. But I've found out that the Graphics card itself is more than an actual PC. My PC itself as a whole costed around $500, but the graphics card I want to get is around $200 to $300 more than my PC itself
Why is that? Why do graphics card cost more than an average PC?

SImple.. your PC has more standardized parts and configurations than your gfx cards. You may have notice that outside ram and hdd, most cpu components have remained in more or less stasis for a while. There are no i9 cpus and i7's have been around for near a decade now. Gfx cards are constantly being retweaked and modified so the toplevel cards do not have economies of scale on their side.

The other, real reason is saddly because the manufacturers know they can get away with the over pricing. People who like to boast pabout their fps have historically proven very willing to spend large amounts of mony on that e-peen extension.

If you actually want a gfx card.. aim mid-level not high end. Next years mid level cards will be on par with the previous year's high end monster. But significantly cheaper.

[Freighttrainx]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Start_Running:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Freighttrainx:

Ok, So after many hours of looking for a decent graphics card with an average price, I couldn't find too many. But I've found out that the Graphics card itself is more than an actual PC. My PC itself as a whole costed around $500, but the graphics card I want to get is around $200 to $300 more than my PC itself
Why is that? Why do graphics card cost more than an average PC?

SImple.. your PC has more standardized parts and configurations than your gfx cards. You may have notice that outside ram and hdd, most cpu components have remained in more or less stasis for a while. There are no i9 cpus and i7's have been around for near a decade now. Gfx cards are constantly being retweaked and modified so the toplevel cards do not have economies of scale on their side.

The other, real reason is saddly because the manufacturers know they can get away with the over pricing. People who like to boast pabout their fps have historically proven very willing to spend large amounts of mony on that e-peen extension.

If you actually want a gfx card.. aim mid-level not high end. Next years mid level cards will be on par with the previous year's high end monster. But significantly cheaper.

I have a Radeon AMD GPU and it's rather old. It's like maybe 5-6 years old

[Freighttrainx]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Start_Running:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Freighttrainx:

Ok, So after many hours of looking for a decent graphics card with an average price, I couldn't find too many. But I've found out that the Graphics card itself is more than an actual PC. My PC itself as a whole costed around $500, but the graphics card I want to get is around $200 to $300 more than my PC itself
Why is that? Why do graphics card cost more than an average PC?

SImple.. your PC has more standardized parts and configurations than your gfx cards. You may have notice that outside ram and hdd, most cpu components have remained in more or less stasis for a while. There are no i9 cpus and i7's have been around for near a decade now. Gfx cards are constantly being retweaked and modified so the toplevel cards do not have economies of scale on their side.

The other, real reason is saddly because the manufacturers know they can get away with the over pricing. People who like to boast pabout their fps have historically proven very willing to spend large amounts of mony on that e-peen extension.

If you actually want a gfx card.. aim mid-level not high end. Next years mid level cards will be on par with the previous year's high end monster. But significantly cheaper.

What would be an average mid-level gtx card?

[Starwhite]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Start_Running:

SImple.. your PC has more standardized parts and configurations than your gfx cards. You may have notice that outside ram and hdd, most cpu components have remained in more or less stasis for a while. There are no i9 cpus and i7's have been around for near a decade now. Gfx cards are constantly being retweaked and modified so the toplevel cards do not have economies of scale on their side.

There have been several generations of i7 CPUs already, they increase the model number like GPUs. Also actually make new ones for every generation instead of relabeling exactly same crap as model +100(0) making people believe it's somehow better to buy, when in fact it can be worse since they used cheaper parts. Best performance per price is usually in the 100-200 range, after that you end up paying +50% for +10% performance.