slop_me 2019 年 5 月 16 日 下午 1:08
Usb crashes steam
So when I unplug or plug in any USB devices into any slots using a 3.0 header or the 3.0 on the back on the MB steam closes. No crash message or anything it's almost like a force close. This makes it really hard to play a game like zombies with a controller because sometimes it'll disconnect mid game for no reason and steam will close causing most games to close or log me out due to steam not being present.

This can be anything from keybored, microphone, mouse, Drawing tablet, Phone charger.
Any USB device cause crash. I have no clue where to start other then I checked my USB driver updated and reinstalled which didn't fix this issue. No other app have this issue on my computer. This even happens for other installs of steam. (Yes I have 3 steams installed)

Edit: I looked online I haven't seen a single other person have this issue.
最后由 slop_me 编辑于; 2019 年 5 月 16 日 下午 1:09
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The Giving One 2019 年 7 月 10 日 下午 8:15 
引用自 slop_me
The only reason I'm on steam forums is because it causes steam and only steam to crash nothing else which seems so bizarre. That's why I came to the steam forums because it was only steam that is a victim of this issue.
I understand this, and that is fine, asking for help here. But as I said before, just because an issue presents itself exactly at the moment you do action A, that does not mean that action A is the exact cause and only cause of that issue.

That's not good troubleshooting to automatically assume it is. Those other problems you posted about are why I suggested a full reformat. I cannot imagine waiting literally minutes for my PC to boot or for programs to load or browsers to load webpages. There is something wrong, and it is not Steam that is the cause of all that.

Please, just try the safe mode with networking suggestion and removing all overclocking. Please just at least try that.

You have peaked my interest, and I would like to see you get this figured out.
slop_me 2019 年 7 月 10 日 下午 8:19 
Steam has nothing to do with my long boot time I never said that *Confused* (Unless I just didn't understand what you meant) I will test and get back to you starting in safe mode with all default BIOS settings but you will have to wait till tomorrow or if you will be up for another 2 to 3ish hours I might test it then. I'm currently playing a game with my BF and they don't want me to close the server lol
最后由 slop_me 编辑于; 2019 年 7 月 10 日 下午 8:21
The Giving One 2019 年 7 月 10 日 下午 8:21 
引用自 slop_me
Steam has nothing to do with my long boot time I never said that *Confused* I will test and get back to you starting in safe mode with all default BIOS settings but you will have to wait till tomorrow or if you will be up for another 2 to 3ish hours I might test it then. I'm currently playing a game with my BF and they don't want me to close the server lol
Take all the time you need, I am sorry, as I did not mean to imply that I was being impatient with your problem getting resolved. Post when you have time. Those subbed to the thread will see your posts and try to offer advice or help.

I know you never said Steam had anything to do with your long boot time or those other problems you mentioned, but surely you can see how those are an issue also, and that all this taken together might be related somehow.

In short, with all those other problems you mentioned, Steam should be your least concern, or at least, it would be for me. But of course, what you do is up to you. Thanks.
slop_me 2019 年 7 月 10 日 下午 8:29 
I just chock my long load times up to the fact I have programs installed across my I think 4 hard drives I know why it takes a long time to boot and that's the culprit. All my hard drive were external drives that I broke out of there external inclosers and there some of the slowest hard drives ever my fastest hard drive gets up too 100mb transfer speeds. A new install of windows would help for a bit till I install all my basic programs. I have a single 1gb ssd for my steam games so I don't have to worry about the slow speeds while gaming.
The Giving One 2019 年 7 月 10 日 下午 8:37 
引用自 slop_me
I just chock my long load times up to the fact I have programs installed across my I think 4 hard drives I know why it takes a long time to boot and that's the culprit. .
But surely, some of that you don't need on boot, and so can be disabled from msconfig under Windows, or at the very least, manually launched when your PC boots up. Many third party programs run on boot by default installation, and you don't need many of them to do this, as this just can needlessly consume resources, increase boot times, and in some cases directly conflict with Steam and/or games.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9828-SFLZ-9289
引用自 slop_me
All my hard drive were external drives that I broke out of there external inclosers and there some of the slowest hard drives ever my fastest hard drive gets up too 100mb transfer speeds.
Not being critical or rude at all, but this is a very unusual setup there. You have purchased some nice hardware such as GPU, motherboard, RAM, and CPU, so why would you do this and not simply get a good HDD that it at least 7200 RPM or even 10,000 ? You can get a nice HDD very cheaply these days.
引用自 slop_me
I have a single 1gb ssd for my steam games so I don't have to worry about the slow speeds while gaming.
That is a nice SSD no doubt, so I would have my Windows, the Steam client, and all my games on that drive and all the other software on the other(s).
slop_me 2019 年 7 月 10 日 下午 8:46 
I don't have many programs that launch on boot up I have
Discord, My drawing tablet software, razer synapse, Hamachi. That's actually all that boots on start up

I bought those quite a few years when I was a young kid with no job and no money lol. That's why that seems so out of place they will be upgraded one day once I get enough money to do so.
The Giving One 2019 年 7 月 10 日 下午 8:48 
引用自 slop_me
I don't have many programs that launch on boot up I have
Discord, My drawing tablet software, razer synapse, Hamachi. That's actually all that boots on start up.
Then the PC should boot in literally seconds, and you should be able to launch those programs and they open in literally seconds. If not one second.
slop_me 2019 年 7 月 10 日 下午 8:49 
I mean having 100gb of folders and 500 desktop icons don't help either lol I also forgot I have classic shell aswell on bootup
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The Giving One 2019 年 7 月 10 日 下午 8:51 
引用自 slop_me
I mean having 100gb of folders and 500 desktop icons don't help either lol
You can put all the icons in a folder to themselves. And then, just open that folder once the PC boots up. I had a PC once, a gaming PC, that literally had one folder on the desktop. I kept that AS my 'desktop' to speed up my boots as fast as possible.

Still, it should not take minutes.

Hamachi has been seen to cause issues with Steam, sorry as I missed that detail in my reply. It was once on the support page :

https://web.archive.org/web/20160602193816/https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9828-SFLZ-9289

Can't say it does now or not, but remember.....this is process of elimination.
slop_me 2019 年 7 月 10 日 下午 9:00 
No it most defently isn't hamachi I close it on boot up everytime and have it's drivers disabled it just doesn't show up in my startup tab in task manager so or it wouldn't boot on start up.

Just to be clear Windows loads in like 2 to 5 mins (This includes, Desktop icons, Task bar and fuctionality of windows tools) But if I open an app like firefox or steam it always takes a super long time to load. At this point I just boot my pc in the morning and go and do stuff around the house and come back. The apps that are install on my pc are the part that takes forever to load not windows it's self. So you could say windows loads in 2 to 5 mins. If I never use any third party apps and I blame this on the fact all my programs are installed on different hard drives then the drive with windows. I don't count that as fully booted in my eyes because it still takes 5 to 10 mins before I can use third party tools on windows so. It's not something I even really care about if I did I would of done something about it at this point. Been like this for years now even when I used windows 7.
The Giving One 2019 年 7 月 10 日 下午 9:03 
引用自 slop_me
No it most defently isn't hamachi I close it on boot up everytime and have it's drivers disabled it just doesn't show up in my startup tab in task manager so or it wouldn't boot on start up.

You need to also be looking at msconfig under the services tab. I might be wrong, but I bet your list is much longer than you think.

引用自 slop_me
Just to be clear Windows loads in like 2 to 5 mins (This includes, Desktop icons, Task bar and fuctionality of windows tools) But if I open an app like firefox or steam it always takes a super long time to load. At this point I just boot my pc in the morning and go and do stuff around the house and come back. The apps that are install on my pc are the part that takes forever to load not windows it's self. So you could say windows loads in 2 to 5 mins.
Not to keep harping on this at all or upset you, but all that is highly unusual. It should not take that long to load up. Add to this the fact you have an SSD also.

It should not take minutes to do just about anything on a PC, unless maybe a virus scan or HDD defrag or similar process. Something is very wrong.
slop_me 2019 年 7 月 10 日 下午 9:14 
I just have taken a look at all the services running and the only thing I didn't include in my list of programs that I didn't know it started running hidden stuff in the background was teamviewer 14, my logitech camera, PIA vpn, SandBoxie,


Lol a virus scan is not something you want to do on my pc if you are doing a full virus scan it took 8 hours when I only had 4tb of storage and now that I got 10tb of used storage it you might be here for days scanning.
The Giving One 2019 年 7 月 10 日 下午 9:20 
VPN can also possibly cause issues with Steam. They are included even on the new version of the support page that I linked before.

This is why I keep suggesting safe mode with networking, even though I am not sure that will fix all the problems you seem to have. It's just a way to troubleshoot, because all those programs don't automatically run on boot in safe mode, and you can connect to the Steam network still "with networking" enabled in the boot options.

I understand you have a lot of files on your PC, but the boot times should not be that long, and all the other problems you mentioned pretty clearly shows that something is still very wrong.
slop_me 2019 年 7 月 11 日 上午 11:09 
After disabling manual Ai tweeking and setting XMP back to default aswell booting into safe mode with networking. Steam still crashes when I unplug or plug in a usb aswell when I connected a bluetooth device
最后由 slop_me 编辑于; 2019 年 7 月 11 日 上午 11:17
The Giving One 2019 年 7 月 11 日 下午 1:41 
引用自 slop_me
Steam still crashes when I unplug or plug in a usb aswell when I connected a bluetooth device
Just so I understand you, you are currently staying in the safe boot while connecting the other device, and at the same time with Steam open and running.

And that is when you see Steam crash, is that correct ? You need to still be in safe mode with networking and stay there while using this method. And you still should check all the BIOS settings to be sure they are at default, not just the RAM XMP profile.

If that is correct, and you are absolutely sure that the OS is fully up to date, and that Steam is actually crashing (not simply minimizing or closing to background only), then the next thing I would do is the above in the exact same way, using the exact same method, but this time do what was suggested before while so :
引用自 Washell
https://www.cyberlink.com/support/faq-content.do?id=10449
Look for red and yellow exclamation marks in the application and the system logs.
Check your event viewer and the system logs for any clue as to what is causing the issue or what happens when the issue presents itself.

Write down/copy and paste to text document the EXACT and FULL words and codes of any errors you see that may be relevant.

You still have the other issues that we discussed that should not be overlooked or ignored. It seems to me that starting over with a fresh installation of your OS after a full reformat and drivers updated, as I suggested previously, would be faster and much easier than what you are going about there now doing.

Also, that unusual hard drive configuration you have there that you mentioned before. It's just so much taken together that it's hard to know where to really begin. That's why just starting over fresh is best in this case.

And honestly, I almost never suggest to do this, before trying everything else that I can think of. But in this case, I honestly think it is the best way.
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