64-bit games are not install-able in 32-bit OS

[AranKien]

I don't really know why this is the case for steam, as there's quite a lot of problems with this, some game like "Papers, Please" has a legacy version on 32-bit in the beta section of the game, it runs just fine if I pirate an older version (which is exactly what the legacy version is). So I have no way of playing the game on my (yet to be updated) 32-bit OS legitimately even though it has a 32-bit legacy version of the game in the "betas" section. This also poses another problem because I'm also trying to pre-install the games to my drive so that when I get a new drive and install a 64-bit OS so i can play the game immediately without waiting for it to download.

And I read that Project Zomboid is apparently playable in 32-bit even though it has a 64-bit requirement (which blocks the download from 32-bit OS), any way to combat this block? Maybe a work around to download through steam using some kind of app or access through a website or something, thanks!

Edit: I got a new SSD with a 64-bit OS installed now so it's all good

[Ettanin]

Depending on the speed of your internet connection and the confidentiality of the data, a cloud storage solution may help you as well. 1 TB is commonly around $10 a month.

[Mad Scientist]

AsmodyTap님이 먼저 게시:

it runs just fine if I pirate an older version

Not exactly wise to mention this.

AsmodyTap님이 먼저 게시:

So I have no way of playing the game on my (yet to be updated) 32-bit OS

Upgrade the OS. Being limited to basically 3.5GB RAM is also likely not helping at all.

You have a lot of files that can't be lost? Get a USB drive/drives, a removable USB HDD or SSD, something. It's been a very long time since that CPU came out, and a fair amount of older boards have already had swollen and failed capacitors which would be potentially dangerous to your parts if they fail while you're using the system.

Not only do I recommend upgrading the OS, but the system itself. If you cannot, at least make sure the capacitors aren't swollen without touching them.

AsmodyTap님이 먼저 게시:

And I read that Project Zomboid is apparently playable in 32-bit even though it has a 64-bit requirement

Store Page shows 64-Bit, and does not show support of 32-Bit. When installed it does show a "ProjectZomboid32" executable, but that can't be recommended. To the menu (with mods) it takes 1.5GBs of RAM. In game is around 2GB+ with a fair CPU use, so your performance, loading times and CPU usage might be fairly high in comparison. Overall, if you can get it installed especially if switching to 64-Bit, you'll want to make sure the CPU doesn't get too hot.

[Muppet among Puppets]

AsmodyTap님이 먼저 게시:

a GPU that even upon release was very bad, a GeForce 210.

I might be wrong, but i dont think any game that actually needs 64 bit would be fun to play with that card.
(Not because 64bit had anything to do with that).

Mr. Gentlebot님이 먼저 게시:

AsmodyTap님이 먼저 게시:

And I read that Project Zomboid is apparently playable in 32-bit even though it has a 64-bit requirement

Store Page shows 64-Bit, and does not show support of 32-Bit. When installed it does show a "ProjectZomboid32" executable, but that can't be recommended.

As you mention that, i remember several games with a 32 start exe in their folder.
This could be a good tip

[nullable]

AsmodyTap님이 먼저 게시:

I do have a 64-bit compatible CPU, it's an old cpu however, an Intel Quad Core 2 Q8400.

We all ran Windows 7 64bit on those sort of CPU's I ran it on a Q6600 until 2013.

AsmodyTap님이 먼저 게시:

However the problem here other than the drive being pack full of important stuff is that I don't think my current GPU is able to handle anything above 32-bit, that's why my budget is too tight at the moment, it's an old GPU, a GPU that even upon release was very bad, a GeForce 210.

This is a non-issue. 64bits vs 32bits primarily deals with how much RAM is addressable. It's not more taxing. Your GeForce 210 doesn't care if the OS is 64bits or not. It'll still be weak, old and run games the same as it ever did. But potentially able to address more RAM, which could have some performance benefits.

32bit doesn't provide you some kind of performance boost.

Also nothing is stopping you from backing up data. If the data on your system is so important that you dare not update the system. And the system is like 13 years old. One might ask, what are you gonna do when the disk fails, or your house burns down? Where are your backups? If you have backups, no one reason to fuss over the data on the system. And if you don't, you're tempting fate.

AsmodyTap님이 먼저 게시:

However since I didn't originally own this computer, I don't have any product key activation for windows on me

There may be a way to view the activation key in the system. My memory is a bit fuzzy here. I know it was doable on XP, maybe Windows too. That would negate your concerns if you were able to recover it.

At any rate it sounds like you're running an outdated system, that doesn't meet the system requirements and rather than fix your system you want to try to mangle the game somehow to be 32bit when it's not. Good luck with that.

The rational thing to do is address your OS issue.

[crunchyfrog]

AsmodyTap님이 먼저 게시:

Cathulhu님이 먼저 게시:

Why can you not?

There are important documents and applications that is not mine, I can't just format a whole drive full of photos from 7 years ago and other important documents

Then either back up stuff onto CD, or USB pen drive or something.

If you can't do that, go and buy a USB external drive. I run several.

The last one I bought was from Amazon, a 2TB one, USB 3.1, and only forty quid.


I woudl suggest you do something like this as a matter of urgency because you say you have important docuiments and files on a drive. That MUST be backed up at least once. You shouldnever leaqve stuff like that on one place, because if it fails, you're done.

Even with games saves, as I flit between consoles and games regularly, I make sure to back them up every week. Any important stuff I back up to another drive AND burn to disc too.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Hard drives can fail any time.
You need a backup anyway. Or one day the data will be gone.

[Ogami]

How much data are we talking about? You can get 256 GB micro sd or 256 GB USB sticks for like 20 bucks on Amazon nowadays.
Or look into online stores that sell 2nd hand PC components, you can get old HDD with 1TB for like 15 bucks.

Unless you have multiple TB of photos and documents ( very unlikely) that should be more then enough.

[Haruspex]

Wow. System like that would probably be better off as a Windows XP retro gaming PC. (Not connected to the Internet, of course.) Technically it's from the era of Windows Vista. It probably has just enough power to handle DX10 games of the era like Crysis and Halo 2, but only barely, and I wouldn't expect a very good experience with those games. We're talking lowest settings, 640x480 resolution. 30 fps or lower.

Performance wise it would be great for XP and Windows 9x games. That GPU is 13 years old, and there are XP drivers available for it. Play some Half Life 1 (Off the CD, pre Steam), Rune, Heavy Metal FAKK 2, good old Bioware RPGs, Black and White 1 and 2, Jedi Knight and Jedi Academy, Max Payne, Deus Ex, Grand Theft Auto 3... Maybe even hook it up to a CRT monitor and really transport yourself back in time.

You probably already know all this though.

Meanwhile I would forego Steam for this museum piece of a PC and stick to physical copies and GOG. The GOG installers can be downloaded via a regular browser and run fine on XP as well as modern versions of Windows. Looking at my GOG copy of Zomboid, the 32 bit installer is right there, ready to download.

[Akame]

good

[Brian9824]

AsmodyTap님이 먼저 게시:

I don't really know why this is the case for steam, as there's quite a lot of problems with this, some game like "Papers, Please" has a legacy version on 32-bit in the beta section of the game,

Nothing at all to do with Steam. You can't install 64 bit applications in a 32 bit OS. The same way you can't pour a 64 oz drink into a 32oz cup, but you can pour a 32oz drink into a 64oz cup.

[𝕙.𝕓𝕒𝕣𝕜𝕒𝕤]

Your Intel Quad Core 2 Q8400 is perfectly able to run Win10-64bit provided you have at least 8 GB of RAM.
You can install 64bit Windows alongside your 32bit in Dual-Boot configuration. During installation Windows will ask you if you want to keep your old Windows.
Windows will install a rudimentary boot manager where you can choose your Windows version at system start up.

[AranKien]

Thanks for all the hardware advices everyone, I found a workaround after hours of searching yesterday, managed to use SteamCMD to install both Papers, Please legacy edition and Project Zomboid build 40 (which runs fairly well in the lowest settings). I'm still saving for an upgrade for a new GPU since this one doesn't even launch most games from 2015, going for a GT 1030 for low electricity cost since the Q8400 is pretty taxing.
I'll also get a new HDD to back up the documents that's in the computer along with installing a 64-bit OS on another drive.
I'm planning on abandoning this rig in the upcoming years when I get around to buying components for a new PC, but until then I'll have to make the best of this old machine.
Thanks again everyone!