Why is Steam lying about group names?

[MrL0G1C]

So I tried to make a group:
'Steam hid your games & activity'

I find it to be highly unlikely that this group already exists especially since it can't be found when searched for, so why am I getting the stupid error message?

"The group name, Steam hid your games & activity, is already in use"

[Ogami]

That message always comes up when you try to create a group with a forbidden word.
In this case "Steam". Its not allowed to have "Steam" in your group or user name because of security reasons and scam protection.

[MrL0G1C]

So it should simply say the group contains a forbidden word.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Sure. But thee are ways around that. I don't recommend them but there are ways.

Valv[e] hid your games & activity

[Brujeira]

Diposting pertama kali oleh MrL0G1C:

So it should simply say the group contains a forbidden word.

It's not in the nature of things for computer systems to have meaningful, accurate error messages.

Ogami, I hate to be pedantic but, to use a technical term, it's a reserved word rather than a forbidden one. All group and user names containing those words are reserved by Valve for their own future possible use - so technically they are all in use even though they don't exist an the message does make some bizarre kind of sense. That's the way system designers and programmers minds work(?) you see.

Actually, that's partly untrue... I love being pedantic.

[Ogami]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Brujeira:

Diposting pertama kali oleh MrL0G1C:

So it should simply say the group contains a forbidden word.

It's not in the nature of things for computer systems to have meaningful, accurate error messages.

Ogami, I hate to be pedantic but, to use a technical term, it's a reserved word rather than a forbidden one. All group and user names containing those words are reserved by Valve for their own future possible use - so technically they are all in use even though they don't exist an the message does make some bizarre kind of sense. That's the way system designers and programmers minds work(?) you see.

Actually, that's partly untrue... I love being pedantic.

Well its "reserved" because they dont want users to take them, so its a "forbidden" word.
:P

But in the end it does not really matter, only the fact that you cant use those words on Steam for user names or groups.

[Matt]

They should make the error message say:

"Silly rabbit, you can't use the word Steam in your group name. What were you thinking? Come on now. Choose from the other millions of words in existence. Have a great day!!!"

[MrL0G1C]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Brujeira:

Diposting pertama kali oleh MrL0G1C:

So it should simply say the group contains a forbidden word.

It's not in the nature of things for computer systems to have meaningful, accurate error messages.

Ogami, I hate to be pedantic but, to use a technical term, it's a reserved word rather than a forbidden one. All group and user names containing those words are reserved by Valve for their own future possible use - so technically they are all in use even though they don't exist an the message does make some bizarre kind of sense. That's the way system designers and programmers minds work(?) you see.

Actually, that's partly untrue... I love being pedantic.

It can be hard not to be pedantic considering the stuff that gets posted here, but you should try not to be because a lot of the replies to people's suggestions look like trolling. I think the phrases if you don't have something nice to say then don't say anything and bite your tongue should come to mind before posting replies. Not saying I'm perfect at this myself but I try.

[Brujeira]

Diposting pertama kali oleh MrL0G1C:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Brujeira:

It's not in the nature of things for computer systems to have meaningful, accurate error messages.

Ogami, I hate to be pedantic but, to use a technical term, it's a reserved word rather than a forbidden one. All group and user names containing those words are reserved by Valve for their own future possible use - so technically they are all in use even though they don't exist an the message does make some bizarre kind of sense. That's the way system designers and programmers minds work(?) you see.

Actually, that's partly untrue... I love being pedantic.

It can be hard not to be pedantic considering the stuff that gets posted here, but you should try not to be because a lot of the replies to people's suggestions look like trolling. I think the phrases if you don't have something nice to say then don't say anything and bite your tongue should come to mind before posting replies. Not saying I'm perfect at this myself but I try.

Excuse me? Your original post is basically a bad-tempered complaint about the exact wording of an error message - it's the very essence of pedantry. Ogami has almost certainly seen enough of my posts to have some understanding of my sense of humour - particularly the humour I find in the absurdities of the world of IT.

You? I'd suggest that you go crack open a beer and lighten up a bit as that's exactly what I plan on doing.

[MrL0G1C]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Brujeira:

Diposting pertama kali oleh MrL0G1C:

It can be hard not to be pedantic considering the stuff that gets posted here, but you should try not to be because a lot of the replies to people's suggestions look like trolling. I think the phrases if you don't have something nice to say then don't say anything and bite your tongue should come to mind before posting replies. Not saying I'm perfect at this myself but I try.

Excuse me? Your original post is basically a bad-tempered complaint about the exact wording of an error message - it's the very essence of pedantry. Ogami has almost certainly seen enough of my posts to have some understanding of my sense of humour - particularly when it comes to the absurdities of the world of IT.

You? I'd suggest that you go crack open a beer and lighten up a bit as that's exactly what I plan on doing.

Nah, you should see my 'suggestion' about steam group search, THAT one is bad tempered. This one is positively mild in comparison. I'm just saying don't be winding people up, too much of that going on here. I'm not going to 'chill out' about trolling, ever, beer drunken or otherwise.

[Brujeira]

Diposting pertama kali oleh MrL0G1C:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Brujeira:

Excuse me? Your original post is basically a bad-tempered complaint about the exact wording of an error message - it's the very essence of pedantry. Ogami has almost certainly seen enough of my posts to have some understanding of my sense of humour - particularly when it comes to the absurdities of the world of IT.

You? I'd suggest that you go crack open a beer and lighten up a bit as that's exactly what I plan on doing.

Nah, you should see my 'suggestion' about steam group search, THAT one is bad tempered. This one is positively mild in comparison. I'm just saying don't be winding people up, too much of that going on here. I'm not going to 'chill out' about trolling, ever, beer drunken or otherwise.

You're the only person that's gotten wound up here. You're also the only person here with an axe to grind about Steam's functions and error messages. That's no coincidence - you're strike me as being permanently wound up and that ain't healthy.

You're a smart person, you can find workarounds for all this stuff and manage to ignore the usual nonsense messages that you get out of computer programs, right? I know you shouldn't have to but that's the nature of things.

Oh, and none of this is trolling by the way - trolls don't use intelligent arguments in their posts.

[Ogami]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Brujeira:

Oh, and none of this is trolling by the way - trolls don't use intelligent arguments in their posts.

So..... 90% of Steam users on the forum are trolls?

[MrL0G1C]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Brujeira:

Diposting pertama kali oleh MrL0G1C:

Nah, you should see my 'suggestion' about steam group search, THAT one is bad tempered. This one is positively mild in comparison. I'm just saying don't be winding people up, too much of that going on here. I'm not going to 'chill out' about trolling, ever, beer drunken or otherwise.

You're the only person that's gotten wound up here. You're also the only person here with an axe to grind about Steam's functions and error messages. That's no coincidence - you're strike me as being permanently wound up and that ain't healthy.

You're a smart person, you can find workarounds for all this stuff and manage to ignore the usual nonsense messages that you get out of computer programs, right? I know you shouldn't have to but that's the nature of things.

Oh, and none of this is trolling by the way - trolls don't use intelligent arguments in their posts.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Brujeira:

Diposting pertama kali oleh MrL0G1C:

Nah, you should see my 'suggestion' about steam group search, THAT one is bad tempered. This one is positively mild in comparison. I'm just saying don't be winding people up, too much of that going on here. I'm not going to 'chill out' about trolling, ever, beer drunken or otherwise.

You're the only person that's gotten wound up here. You're also the only person here with an axe to grind about Steam's functions and error messages. That's no coincidence - you're strike me as being permanently wound up and that ain't healthy.

You're a smart person, you can find workarounds for all this stuff and manage to ignore the usual nonsense messages that you get out of computer programs, right? I know you shouldn't have to but that's the nature of things.

Oh, and none of this is trolling by the way - trolls don't use intelligent arguments in their posts.

You're assuming I'm wound up, I'm not. And you're doing a lot me talking here than me! I didn't say any of this was trolling. 'trolls don't use intelligent arguments' - so what do intelligent trolls do then?!

[Brujeira]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Ogami:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Brujeira:

Oh, and none of this is trolling by the way - trolls don't use intelligent arguments in their posts.

So..... 90% of Steam users on the forum are trolls?

No, they're users. Unfortunately, there tend to very valid reasons why some Tech Support staff consider the word 'user' to be synonymous with the word '♥♥♥♥♥'.

Diposting pertama kali oleh MrL0G1C:

You're assuming I'm wound up, I'm not. And you're doing a lot me talking here than me! I didn't say any of this was trolling. 'trolls don't use intelligent arguments' - so what do intelligent trolls do then?!

I don't know you so all I can do is go off first impressions, and the first impression you tend to make is that you're immensely irritated. Ironically, one thing that could help prevent that misconception about you is... if you'd be more pedantic about your choice of words and your phrasing. To be honest, post #7 did come across as being little more than a foul-tempered snipe.

Intelligent trolls? Where? I always feel that particular term is an oxymoron, whereas the trolls themselves are just plain ordinary morons.