Max Payne 1-2 Delisting, zero information on why

[DisableBore]

Since November 4, 2021, Max Payne and Max Payne 2 : The Fall of Max Payne have been delisted in several regions, as you can see in their pricing history. It is still available in some countries for now.
https://steamdb.info/app/12140/ https://steamdb.info/app/12150/
This was relatively close to the announcement of the Grand Theft Auto Trilogy Remaster, which involved delisting old versions of the games, (https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/4408282103571/Grand-Theft-Auto-III-Grand-Theft-Auto-Vice-City-and-Grand-Theft-Auto-San-Andreas-not-available-for-purchase).

There is zero information or even updates on the matter, and when asked I was told to write to Steam (where even?) by Rockstar Support. So yeah, I’m asking the community for any help.

[Mad Scientist]

Developers/Publishers can ask that their product be removed from the Steam store.
In the US, this product is clearly still listed. Delisting from specific regions could be local laws, regulations, sanction etc.

[AustrAlien2010]

This is an unofficial statement, but

Because the titles only worked on Windows XP? If a customer complains about that. Then what will you say?

"Yeah, sorry. You bought this 2 months ago, you can't get a refund. You should install Windows XP."?

[DisableBore]

Originally posted by Mr. Gentlebot:

Developers/Publishers can ask that their product be removed from the Steam store.
In the US, this product is clearly still listed. Delisting from specific regions could be local laws, regulations, sanction etc.

The games are not banned, and everything else in their catalogue is still broadly available.

Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:

This is an unofficial statement, but

Because the titles only worked on Windows XP? If a customer complains about that. Then what will you say?

"Yeah, sorry. You bought this 2 months ago, you can't get a refund. You should install Windows XP."?

This hasnt been an issue for countless games, and there are patches on the community to make the game run. And if it was, why only specific regions?

[AustrAlien2010]

Are they allowed to make money from a patch "some dude" made. A dude that is not credited in the credits?

That seems wrong somehow... A billion Dollar company sending you to someone's dropbox account for support? That's an embarrassment.

[nullable]

Originally posted by DisableBore:

There is zero information or even updates on the matter, and when asked I was told to write to Steam (where even?) by Rockstar Support. So yeah, I’m asking the community for any help.

In this case Rockstar support doesn't know are are just deflecting. Sometimes the right hand doesn't talk to the left. Rockstar manages their IP on Steam, all developers and publishers do. Valve didn't remove the games, Rockstar almost certainly made the decision.

It could be those games are getting updated versions. It could just be an administration error. If Rockstar doesn't make public statements about those decisions then we're left to guess and speculate. And Valve may not always know everything another publisher is doing, even if the games have been sold on Steam for years.

[DisableBore]

Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:

Maybe. But are they allowed to make money of a patch "some dude" made. A dude that is not credited in the credits.

This again has never been an issue anywhere. This was Rockstar's doing. If anything, by this logic they are making less potential easy money.

[DisableBore]

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

It could be those games are getting updated versions. It could just be an administration error. If Rockstar doesn't make public statements about those decisions then we're left to guess and speculate. And Valve may not always know everything another publisher is doing, even if the games have been sold on Steam for years.

After GTA DE, that would be the worst thing I ever heard. Considering again, it was some, not all regions, I guess all you have is speculation.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by DisableBore:

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

It could be those games are getting updated versions. It could just be an administration error. If Rockstar doesn't make public statements about those decisions then we're left to guess and speculate. And Valve may not always know everything another publisher is doing, even if the games have been sold on Steam for years.

After GTA DE, that would be the worst thing I ever heard. Considering again, it was some, not all regions, I guess all you have is speculation.

All ANYONE has is speculation as to such removals. If you want an official statement, you will need to contact the game's developer, not random users in a game's forum.

[nullable]

Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:

Are they allowed to make money from a patch "some dude" made. A dude that is not credited in the credits?

That seems wrong somehow...

Old games not running well on modern hardware/OS'es is a cliche, custom configurations, tweaks, workarounds and patches have a long long tradition. And it's preferable to have the option to buy it as opposed to burying the game in a landfill and making it hard to get simply because it needs some massaging to work.

And in general those patches aren't sold as part of the game or otherwise officially endorsed. The user is free to decide how to get the game running, and whether or not to use a particular guuide, process or user created patch.

[DisableBore]

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

Originally posted by DisableBore:

After GTA DE, that would be the worst thing I ever heard. Considering again, it was some, not all regions, I guess all you have is speculation.

All ANYONE has is speculation as to such removals. If you want an official statement, you will need to contact the game's developer, not random users in a game's forum.

Already did to absolutely zero help, thought maybe someone else had a clue of where to look but looks like that won't happen. And sidenote, if you feel appropiate, lock the thread.