How do you disable automatic updating?

[Ley]

Or more accurately: why is this not possible and JFC why does EGS have to be so abysmally terrible, this whole monopoly scheme needs a good house cleaning.

[Ley]

Out Of Bubblegum eredeti hozzászólása:

There is an option for the games to only update when you play them. It is set to always update by default. That will help a lot. If you are doing single player games then you can make Steam go into an offline mode. Then nothing can update.

This isn't a solution to my problem, but yes, it helps a lot.

[Zekiran]

Ley eredeti hozzászólása:

This kind of brainwashed slosh is exactly why steam needs some competition. A good summary of your posts would read something like 'A percentage of Steam users require some functionality that Valve could easily spend a pittance of time and resources to implement, but that *could possibly* (but probably not actually) damage the user experience of other Steam users somehow, so ♥♥♥♥ this entire demographic. We don't care about taking their money; and we know we'll get their money anyway, because it's not like they can go spend it somewhere else.

False, once more: VALVE DOES NOT DO THIS, Game developers push updates.

Valve is responsible for ONLY their own games. Otherwise, they are responsible for KEEPING other people's games UPDATED.

That is their JOB.

Unless you can find me some quotes from the Valve execs in charge of Steam that says 'Our platform is intended for the sole purpose of updating games' than that statement is infact, your opinion.

I didn't say ONLY - I said its job. OBVIOUSLY YOU BUY GAMES HERE. Pedant.

My opinion is that Steam is (perhaps not always WAS) a storefront. A digital marketplace by which devs post their games, and Steam takes a percentage of the money. Steam wins, they get a huge pile of money for what is essentially no direct cost.

That's nice, and look at that - games can be bought here.

GAMES GET UPDATED. Where exactly were you in the 80s and early 90s? Because I can tell you right now, if you got a broken program, *that was it, forever*.

Your opinion is that the responsibility of updates being offered or opted out of falls onto the individual devs. That opinion is so... WRONG so.. anti-consumer, that it makes me physically ill just reading it, and knowing that you mean it.

The individual devs are *LITERALLY AND EXCLUSIVELY* the only people who CAN make updates.

Do you expect Valve has a team of pros working at Bethesda in secret? Or teamed up with 2k, or whoever else? making notes and typing on computers that they do not own, in order to put out updates?

You are COMPLETELY ignorant of the way game development and distribution works, my lad.

Do you not use Steam too as a user, do you not care that (lets not even say it's the whole 'do no automatically update' debacle that made me make this post). It's some other feature that is ACTIVELY harming your user experience with no great excuse for its existance. Would you not be angry, even a little bit angry? Or would you still lick the dirt of Valve's boot and say 'Well steam was intended for this exact thing so I guess I'll roll over and take it'

Steam - once more - is NOT TO BLAME for your games getting updated.

TAKE IT TO THE DEVS OF THOSE GAMES.

Look at my profile and see which game I have the most time in.

FALLOUT FOUR.

Fallout 4, which last I checked is not a Valve game, and which I must launch from F4SE, because I have over 200 mods stuck on it. Every time Bethesda pushes an update to their CC, MY GAME BREAKS.

OH NO what am I to do?

That's right: I *wait* for Silverlock to catch up. And then I can play Fallout 4 again, with my mods intact.

But even if I couldn't update Silverlock's launcher... I could still actually PLAY the game. Modded only with their CC crap, mind you - but I can still play it. So it's not like I don't have a horse in this race, I have a 2000 hour long horserace going and every time Bethesda adds or changes something even insignificantly, I HAVE TO WAIT to get that game back in working order.

SO?

Android, iOS offer opting out of automatic updates for their apps and games. Windows 10 gets berated for its forcing of updates that break everything daily. Should those users who are angry at windows 10 for bricking their software somehow NOT be mad because that's just 'Window 10 as intended'.

What on earth does this have to do with Steam? Nothing.

My opinion on the matter is not irrelevant. Valve has made money off of me from steam. I am a consumer of Valve's products, even if that product is just the crappy storefront that is the middleman between me and the video games I want to play.

Again, their products and your opinion on them are irrelevant to your understanding of this situation. Your comprehension needs improvement, because once more for the guy in the back:

Valve is not responsible for updates made to games, they are legally obliged by their contract with the companies they work with to update those games to the customers who purchased the games here.

My opinion is that Automatic updates breaking my games is not acceptable, and that you and everyone else in this thread is disagreeing with that opinion is disgusting.

'disgusting' is the inability that some people have, in comprehending even basic distribution and development, as you so aptly show.

That is the issue of everyone else who would like to play a game without waiting for a 10 gb update they don't want or need. Which is hardly one person. The solution Valve has forced is 'Just wait for the update' and the whole point of my post is 'No, that's dumb, just let me opt out of this update, why does this BASIC functionality not exist in your storefront that I am trying hard not to consider malware.'

Once more: your impression is completely wrong, on all counts.

If you 'don't want' a game to update, I wonder where you might find one that is released perfect and flawless, that needs no day 1 or year-end or oops we didn't account for that driver or this new chip changes how our game runs issues...

When you have a game that doesn't work right, and then the developer pushes a fix... I guess you do not want that fix either.

"OH WAIT" it's when YOU want it, and ONLY when you want it.

Guess what: they don't want to deal with people like you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to them about a broken game, when they FIXED it and pushed a fix, and YOU decided you didn't want to be inconvenienced for an hour while making dinner or talking to real people or going outside.

Jesus H christ.

Get off your horse. All of its legs are broken under the weight of your faulty assumptions.

[Crazy Tiger]

Valve provides game devs with tools, like the beta branches, to give you options to not update the game. Some developers even do that, like Paradox.
If those game devs don't give you that option, it's because they don't want you to be on a different version.

Which makes sense for their game support. If people automatically are on the latest version, it makes troubleshooting a lot easier.

Valve should rename it, though. Beta branches doesn't make it clear that you can stay on a certain version.

[Ley]

Lol you're making this more and more clear to me. Don't put words in my mouth. I'm not asking for games to get no updates. I'm asking to be allowed to choose when those updates are downloaded and installed. Period. I'm not asking game devs to listen to any idiot who would disable updates and then complain about a game being broken when an update to fix it is available. You know, like a rational human being.

Asking for functionality that already exists on virtually every other store front seems like such a small request, I don't know why you're getting so worked up over my annoyance at having to jump through insane hoops to do it without valves specific say so.

[The Giving One]

Ley eredeti hozzászólása:

Unless you can find me some quotes from the Valve execs in charge of Steam that says 'Our platform is intended for the sole purpose of updating games' than that statement is infact, your opinion.

Maybe not a quote but it is clearly covered in the agreement that everyone clicks "I agree" to :

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/#2

2. LICENSES ⏶

A. General Content and Services License

For reasons that include, without limitation, system security, stability, and multiplayer interoperability, Steam may need to automatically update, pre-load, create new versions of or otherwise enhance the Content and Services and accordingly, the system requirements to use the Content and Services may change over time. You consent to such automatic updating.

[Ley]

The Giving One eredeti hozzászólása:

Ley eredeti hozzászólása:

Unless you can find me some quotes from the Valve execs in charge of Steam that says 'Our platform is intended for the sole purpose of updating games' than that statement is infact, your opinion.

Maybe not a quote but it is clearly covered in the agreement that everyone clicks "I agree" to :

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/#2

2. LICENSES ⏶

A. General Content and Services License

For reasons that include, without limitation, system security, stability, and multiplayer interoperability, Steam may need to automatically update, pre-load, create new versions of or otherwise enhance the Content and Services and accordingly, the system requirements to use the Content and Services may change over time. You consent to such automatic updating.

Which brings us nicely full circle back to the point of my thread:

I'm request the changing of this policy to allow me to decide when updates to the games I've purchased on steam are downloaded and installed.

I'm frustrated that the year is current year and that this thread even needs to be made.

[The Giving One]

Ley eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm request the changing of this policy to allow me to decide when updates to the games I've purchased on steam are downloaded and installed.

I'm frustrated that the year is current year and that this thread even needs to be made.

There is another forum for that, and it has been suggested and asked for for years. There have been countless threads on it already. With all due respect, you are not bringing anything new to the table. They fully know there are a few users that want more control over updates.

EDIT.................

Also, just so it's clear if not as of now, each and every time this topic comes up, almost in all cases the OP of the thread is misunderstanding the way this always worked, and usually claims that once we could disable updates.

That's why the wording was changed. Because of all the confusion it caused way back then......and we are still seeing the fallout from all that confusion today :

http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/282992646982165681/?ctp=4#c224446340334231162

"No, you are wrong. I remember not having to update my games !"

Nope. Never existed.

http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/282992646982165681/?ctp=5#c224446432322827145

Answer from a Valve Employee :

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1384746074

[Ley]

The Giving One eredeti hozzászólása:

Ley eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm request the changing of this policy to allow me to decide when updates to the games I've purchased on steam are downloaded and installed.

I'm frustrated that the year is current year and that this thread even needs to be made.

There is another forum for that, and it has been suggested and asked for for years. There have been countless threads on it already. With all due respect, you are not bringing anything new to the table. They fully know there are a few users that want more control over updates.

With respect, you're correct and I'm sad that I can't spend my money elsewhere and that the steam user base is not only ok with it, but will actively tell me to go ♥♥♥♥ myself about it. (This auto update nonsense)

I posted in help because I was looking for help in getting around it. I figured it out though with some google-fu. I was mostly responding to the bile spewing hatred I was getting to my frustration that a basic function of all or nearly all non-steam storefronts is not a feature on steam. It surprised me.

[The Giving One]

Ley eredeti hozzászólása:

With respect, you're correct and I'm sad that I can't spend my money elsewhere and that the steam user base is not only ok with it, but will actively tell me to go [REMOVED] myself about it. (This auto update nonsense)

Why can you not spend your money elsewhere ? I am not sure what could be stopping you from doing that, although I am not saying for you to if you don't like the way updates work. You are free to have your opinion. I don't see that anyone has told you to [REMOVED] yourself, just because they are posting other opinions and discussing the topic with facts.

I added an edit to my previous post. Sorry about that.

So is the issue you have with the updates only with modded games ? What's your main issue with automatic updates ? Sorry if it was covered, as I did read the thread but seem to have missed what your main issue is.

[Ley]

The Giving One eredeti hozzászólása:

Ley eredeti hozzászólása:

With respect, you're correct and I'm sad that I can't spend my money elsewhere and that the steam user base is not only ok with it, but will actively tell me to go [REMOVED] myself about it. (This auto update nonsense)

Why can you not spend your money elsewhere ? I am not sure what could be stopping you from doing that, although I am not saying for you to if you don't like the way updates work. You are free to have your opinion. I don't see that anyone has told you to [REMOVED] yourself, just because they are posting other opinions and discussing the topic with facts.

I added an edit to my previous post. Sorry about that.

So is the issue you have with the updates only with modded games ? What's your main issue with automatic updates ? Sorry if it was covered, as I did read the thread but seem to have missed what your main issue is.

It's that yes, my three hundred turn total war campaigns getting bricked, but also the other thing. I have a high bandwidth connection but limited data.

I would love to purchase all the games that are only available through steam on not-steam.

I value my time way more than the average and majority of steam users it would appear. My data is literally also money. So if my single player offline games could not force many gig updates that I neither want nor need, that would be objectively an improvement.

[The Giving One]

Oh, I see what you mean, about making purchases. Yes, Steam does have a lot of games, as compared to most of the competition.

I normally suggest using workarounds for modded games, as some have ways to avoid the updates that break the game, but not all of course.

You seem to have found a workaround for your case(s), if I understood you correctly.

[Ley]

The Giving One eredeti hozzászólása:

Oh, I see what you mean, about making purchases. Yes, Steam does have a lot of games, as compared to most of the competition.

I normally suggest using workarounds for modded games, as some have ways to avoid the updates that break the game, but not all of course.

You seem to have found a workaround for your case(s), if I understood you correctly.

Yeah, I figured out a work around. Its a pain and its not pretty but it'll do for now.

[Brand New Mindset]

I can't believe there are people actually defending this useless feature. Why don't let people set EVERY game to update ONLY WHEN THEY PLAY. Yes this is so convenient when there are 5 games automatically updates with 20GB each when you boot up your PC and almost crash your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ PC with your other softwares starting up.

[Snapjak]

pma eredeti hozzászólása:

I can't believe there are people actually defending this useless feature. Why don't let people set EVERY game to update ONLY WHEN THEY PLAY. Yes this is so convenient when there are 5 games automatically updates with 20GB each when you boot up your PC and almost crash your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ PC with your other softwares starting up.

If your PC is coming close to crashing because of updating it's got other problems stop blaming it on Steam.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Where is the global setting for only update when start or so?
Only in steam you need to set it for each game separate.