The Pizza is Aggressive 2021년 2월 22일 오전 8시 43분
Steam running extremely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ slow
Since the start of this year I have been experiencing extremely slow load times and download speeds that seem to be exclusive to steam. I first thought it was a problem with my HD because of the low disk writing speeds but I soon came to the conclusion that was not the problem. And so I thought it could be my internet, but I have been in contact with my internet provider multiple times and they claim there is nothing wrong with it.

And then one day I downloaded that Battle.net launcher to download CoD Warzone and the game downloaded at 10mbps, wich is my internet's usual download speed, while steam is downloading at a maximum of 2.4mbps and the pages are loading really slow. The games in the store page usually don't even load their preview images, the workshop pages take half a minute to load and often fail to load properly. Anyone here has any idea on why is that happening?

Also I have already tried uninstalling and reinstalling steam and it is still the same.
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Iceira 2021년 2월 22일 오전 9시 23분 
no spec , no HDD total size and whats free left per HDD. and what is default stem library.
if you dont know this you have not search or read any steam post at all.

so many complain over DL to diskwrites and half of the post is lack of working room on disk and free space.

i said keep 10% free space at each disk
crunsyfrog say dont use anymore then 90% of storage space.

ps.
its your pc that reduce DL speed if disk cant keep up.
use windows task manager to see disk at 100% , and steam dl sux = your disk cant keep up bottleneck.

through laptop and OS and steam lib on same disk . more bottleneck.

this is how things work. find you problem with windows Resource manager, what the heel do steam donload mange know if disk runs at 100% while unpacking and install current game.

and we dont dareif backup or disk defragmentation is running, that user mistake
or other task access disk same time.

rest is speedtest google it.
and change DL zone .
if you still cant ID then its from ISP into steam or steam server.
this is a roughly guide.
check with friends laptop to tuleout own end and router and software
this is more a dont get caught with own end issue.
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The Pizza is Aggressive 2021년 2월 22일 오전 9시 56분 
Iceira님이 먼저 게시:
no spec , no HDD total size and whats free left per HDD. and what is default stem library.
if you dont know this you have not search or read any steam post at all.

so many complain over DL to diskwrites and half of the post is lack of working room on disk and free space.

i said keep 10% free space at each disk
crunsyfrog say dont use anymore then 90% of storage space.

ps.
its your pc that reduce DL speed if disk cant keep up.
use windows task manager to see disk at 100% , and steam dl sux = your disk cant keep up bottleneck.

through laptop and OS and steam lib on same disk . more bottleneck.

this is how things work. find you problem with windows Resource manager, what the heel do steam donload mange know if disk runs at 100% while unpacking and install current game.

and we dont dareif backup or disk defragmentation is running, that user mistake
or other task access disk same time.

rest is speedtest google it.
and change DL zone .
if you still cant ID then its from ISP into steam or steam server.
this is a roughly guide.
check with friends laptop to tuleout own end and router and software
this is more a dont get caught with own end issue.
I have done most of this already. My HD has 1TB and is half full and my OS is installed on a separate SSD that is pretty much exclusive to it. steam when downloading uses like 2% of the disk and it is usually more than 90% unused, I have also done a lot of research on google before posting it here but nothing really helped much. I have also tried changing download zones to alternate regions inside my country and some nearby countries and there was no difference. Also both my HD and SSD seem to run a defragmentation process in a schedule but as I have said before I am certain that the problem is not with my disk.
Iceira 2021년 2월 22일 오전 10시 43분 
dont say this is laptop , even that has been said so many times. even i sit on one, i can see my disk bottleneck 100% writing and disk say 33% in steam dl. sorry to say it , get fact strait at windows resourece meter. my cpu in unpacking and write to disk same time. steam DL cant see 100% in use. they only see half 30+mb/sec.

people with raid0 have double write speed , ofc still require cpu to unpack it , but there is your bottleneck untill you have PC that is Monster or top ace pc or whatever words you have learn high-end pc , and if your pc is 2-4 years old , then its not high-end anymore. this is not me that say it it simple game requirement newest game released to pc.

then you show spec you might get help from me or others.
i bet other tech person he can tell you atleast 1000 of post and most of them is user hardware and bootleneck issue.

besure this is not own faulth before take it to isp /steam, i did not say you cant be right . but gather proof that you are.
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Loser 2021년 2월 22일 오전 10시 49분 
I'm having this issue too. Been using steam for 6 years now even on a potato laptop a few years back with no problems. Now it takes 2 minutes to load each time i go to a new page. I already cleared the web cache, which is the only solution I could find online.
EDIT: Even posting this comment took forever. I've seen other posts (mainly from 2017) and they never found a solution and eventually just quite steam. Seems there is no solution to this problem and we are ♥♥♥♥♥♥.
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Iceira 2021년 2월 22일 오전 11시 01분 
Loser님이 먼저 게시:
I'm having this issue too. Been using steam for 6 years now even on a potato laptop a few years back with no problems. Now it takes 2 minutes to load each time i go to a new page. I already cleared the web cache, which is the only solution I could find online.
EDIT: Even posting this comment took forever. I've seen other posts (mainly from 2017) and they never found a solution and eventually just quite steam. Seems there is no solution to this problem and we are ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

yeah its not easy to ID , my equipment , or isp cant keep up and steam in other end.
do note i see this from a network point of view , who is the cause that cant keep up.
crunchyfrog 2021년 2월 22일 오전 11시 27분 
Loser님이 먼저 게시:
I'm having this issue too. Been using steam for 6 years now even on a potato laptop a few years back with no problems. Now it takes 2 minutes to load each time i go to a new page. I already cleared the web cache, which is the only solution I could find online.
EDIT: Even posting this comment took forever. I've seen other posts (mainly from 2017) and they never found a solution and eventually just quite steam. Seems there is no solution to this problem and we are ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

It does seem to be quite a problem going on at the minute with a load of backend stuff, so it going to make the problem much worse to solve.

It could be purely on their end with this problem, but it could also be something your end too. Difficult to judge until they get this current server issue or backend issue sorted out.
The Pizza is Aggressive 2021년 2월 22일 오후 2시 19분 
Iceira님이 먼저 게시:
dont say this is laptop , even that has been said so many times. even i sit on one, i can see my disk bottleneck 100% writing and disk say 33% in steam dl. sorry to say it , get fact strait at windows resourece meter. my cpu in unpacking and write to disk same time. steam DL cant see 100% in use. they only see half 30+mb/sec.

people with raid0 have double write speed , ofc still require cpu to unpack it , but there is your bottleneck untill you have PC that is Monster or top ace pc or whatever words you have learn high-end pc , and if your pc is 2-4 years old , then its not high-end anymore. this is not me that say it it simple game requirement newest game released to pc.

then you show spec you might get help from me or others.
i bet other tech person he can tell you atleast 1000 of post and most of them is user hardware and bootleneck issue.

besure this is not own faulth before take it to isp /steam, i did not say you cant be right . but gather proof that you are.
I am not playing on a laptop, and the problem is not with my computer's hardware. The problem might be with my modem but I doubt it is not because I only have a slow connection on steam, every other game launcher seems to be just fine, and my ping in online games is the same as it ever was.
crunchyfrog 2021년 2월 22일 오후 2시 47분 
The Pizza is Agressive님이 먼저 게시:
Iceira님이 먼저 게시:
dont say this is laptop , even that has been said so many times. even i sit on one, i can see my disk bottleneck 100% writing and disk say 33% in steam dl. sorry to say it , get fact strait at windows resourece meter. my cpu in unpacking and write to disk same time. steam DL cant see 100% in use. they only see half 30+mb/sec.

people with raid0 have double write speed , ofc still require cpu to unpack it , but there is your bottleneck untill you have PC that is Monster or top ace pc or whatever words you have learn high-end pc , and if your pc is 2-4 years old , then its not high-end anymore. this is not me that say it it simple game requirement newest game released to pc.

then you show spec you might get help from me or others.
i bet other tech person he can tell you atleast 1000 of post and most of them is user hardware and bootleneck issue.

besure this is not own faulth before take it to isp /steam, i did not say you cant be right . but gather proof that you are.
I am not playing on a laptop, and the problem is not with my computer's hardware. The problem might be with my modem but I doubt it is not because I only have a slow connection on steam, every other game launcher seems to be just fine, and my ping in online games is the same as it ever was.

False equivalance I'm afraid.

The fact is Steam uses a different way to download games versus other places. They are encrypted and compressed. So they need to be unencrypted and decompressed before finally writing.

You want to guess which bit of hardware deals with a lot of that?

So don't discount your moden yet based on those things.

This is why it's important to go through process of elimination and test things clearly. When you start dismissing things becayse you THINK it's not relevant, that's when you start wasting time and going down rabbit holes.
The Pizza is Aggressive 2021년 2월 22일 오후 4시 29분 
crunchyfrog님이 먼저 게시:
The Pizza is Agressive님이 먼저 게시:
I am not playing on a laptop, and the problem is not with my computer's hardware. The problem might be with my modem but I doubt it is not because I only have a slow connection on steam, every other game launcher seems to be just fine, and my ping in online games is the same as it ever was.

False equivalance I'm afraid.

The fact is Steam uses a different way to download games versus other places. They are encrypted and compressed. So they need to be unencrypted and decompressed before finally writing.

You want to guess which bit of hardware deals with a lot of that?

So don't discount your moden yet based on those things.

This is why it's important to go through process of elimination and test things clearly. When you start dismissing things becayse you THINK it's not relevant, that's when you start wasting time and going down rabbit holes.
mate honestly you just assumed I haven't gone though an elimitation process before getting here. I am just here asking the community because the problem is not with my HD, steam is literally using only 3% of the HD while I am downloading a game. And I don't think the problem is with the modem because the problem is exclusive to steam. If it was my internet that was slow, I would probably be noticing it in other programs. However if this persists I might get a technician to take a look at my modem and cables to see if there is an actual problem with them. Also I didn't find any solution that actually worked for me.
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crunchyfrog 2021년 2월 22일 오후 6시 03분 
The Pizza is Agressive님이 먼저 게시:
crunchyfrog님이 먼저 게시:

False equivalance I'm afraid.

The fact is Steam uses a different way to download games versus other places. They are encrypted and compressed. So they need to be unencrypted and decompressed before finally writing.

You want to guess which bit of hardware deals with a lot of that?

So don't discount your moden yet based on those things.

This is why it's important to go through process of elimination and test things clearly. When you start dismissing things becayse you THINK it's not relevant, that's when you start wasting time and going down rabbit holes.
mate honestly you just assumed I haven't gone though an elimitation process before getting here. I am just here asking the community because the problem is not with my HD, steam is literally using only 3% of the HD while I am downloading a game. And I don't think the problem is with the modem because the problem is exclusive to steam. If it was my internet that was slow, I would probably be noticing it in other programs. However if this persists I might get a technician to take a look at my modem and cables to see if there is an actual problem with them. Also I didn't find any solution that actually worked for me.
I never assumed anything of the sort. You misunderstand.

I was saying that NOW you have another set of things to use the process of elimination on. I never said anything about whether you had or not - I mean you hadn't said anything so I didn't address that.

Again, you're making an incorrect assumption. YOu CANNOT discount the modem just because the problem is with Steam, that's not how logic works.

Let me try and explain again. Steam works diffrerntly to ALL OTHER portals/stores. The games downloaded here are encrypted AND compressed. This is why you'll often see games download a bit, stop, wait a while (actually the disk is working if you check) before starting again. This is entirely normal.

What is happening in those instances is that the game is downloading a chunk which it then does the work on to decompress. It then writes it to the final location on the drive. Then starts on the next chunk downloading. Some users seem to think there's something wrong with their internet when this happens.

But in your case, you CANNOT discount your router because simply that's the very thing that does the unencryption and certain other data prcedures. If those procedures aren't needed on other places because the games are not encrypted or compressed to this standard, then you cannot possibly know whether Steam is at fault.

That's the point.

If, as you point out under Task Manager your hard drive is only running at 3%, either you have a VERY fast drive (which of course may be the case) or there's bottleneck elsewhere.

And as you only get this with Steam, the router WILL remain suspect for the reasons given.

Do you see?
The Pizza is Aggressive 2021년 2월 23일 오전 4시 39분 
crunchyfrog님이 먼저 게시:
The Pizza is Agressive님이 먼저 게시:
mate honestly you just assumed I haven't gone though an elimitation process before getting here. I am just here asking the community because the problem is not with my HD, steam is literally using only 3% of the HD while I am downloading a game. And I don't think the problem is with the modem because the problem is exclusive to steam. If it was my internet that was slow, I would probably be noticing it in other programs. However if this persists I might get a technician to take a look at my modem and cables to see if there is an actual problem with them. Also I didn't find any solution that actually worked for me.
I never assumed anything of the sort. You misunderstand.

I was saying that NOW you have another set of things to use the process of elimination on. I never said anything about whether you had or not - I mean you hadn't said anything so I didn't address that.

Again, you're making an incorrect assumption. YOu CANNOT discount the modem just because the problem is with Steam, that's not how logic works.

Let me try and explain again. Steam works diffrerntly to ALL OTHER portals/stores. The games downloaded here are encrypted AND compressed. This is why you'll often see games download a bit, stop, wait a while (actually the disk is working if you check) before starting again. This is entirely normal.

What is happening in those instances is that the game is downloading a chunk which it then does the work on to decompress. It then writes it to the final location on the drive. Then starts on the next chunk downloading. Some users seem to think there's something wrong with their internet when this happens.

But in your case, you CANNOT discount your router because simply that's the very thing that does the unencryption and certain other data prcedures. If those procedures aren't needed on other places because the games are not encrypted or compressed to this standard, then you cannot possibly know whether Steam is at fault.

That's the point.

If, as you point out under Task Manager your hard drive is only running at 3%, either you have a VERY fast drive (which of course may be the case) or there's bottleneck elsewhere.

And as you only get this with Steam, the router WILL remain suspect for the reasons given.

Do you see?
fair enough, I probably misunderstood something. Also the game does not suddenly stop downloading, It just downloads at a painful and constant 2mbps wich is like 1/5 of what speeds it used to download at. It is almost like if there is something limiting the download speed. I will probably get a technician to take a look at the router and modem.
crunchyfrog 2021년 2월 23일 오후 3시 40분 
No problem.

My path of thinking here is this, as this is geenrally what hjappens.

It behaves how I explained - often downloading in chunks, due to the encryption and compression that other services don't do. Commonly users get it abit round their neck, as this often means the hard drive is the limiting factor here - but you've already noticed your disk usage is low. Frankly, VERY low, which worries me.

All that work to sort the file out takes it toll, either on the moden doing the decryption or the drive doing the decompression and sorting of data before writing.

So, it's basically either a toss up to me - either your router is on the fritz or needs looking at, or there is some sort of software that is inhibiting downloads and may explain why your disk usage is too slow.

I suppose it's process of elimination as usual. Work on one of these things at a time. If you work on the modem problem, then if it aint' that we can then discount it.

You can try the common old trick too - start Windows in safe mode with networking. If it solves the issue then this demonstrates it's software on your system causing the problem. If it doesn;t, then conversely it's something else.
تمساح 2021년 2월 23일 오후 3시 45분 
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