Requires Billing Address for Purchase with Steam Wallet Funds

[Literally Me]

I am unable to purchase anything with my wallet funds without first inputting a billing address. I have never had to do this before. Is this a recent change and, if possible, how can I go back to just purchasing with wallet funds?

[Darren]

Origineel geplaatst door soomerray:

Origineel geplaatst door Darren:

Everyone pays sales taxes as they are collected on purchases almost regardless of how makes the purchase (age of the person making the purchase isn't one of the criteria for getting out of it).

* In the US it's State Sales Taxes which are added at checkout. I don't know if anyone can not pay/get it back in the US, but it's likely that some companies can under some conditions.
* In the EU it's VAT which is added to the quoted price pre-checkout. Companies can get VAT back under some conditions (when it's for business use instead of personal, because their products then have the VAT on them preventing it being paid multiple times in the chain).
* In Australia it's GST which basically operates the same as VAT in the EU and again is added to the quoted price pre-checkout.

I'm not familiar with other countries but I imagine most have something similar (either pre-or-post checkout).

Valve wants to make sure they are paying appropriate taxes to the appropriate authorities on every purchase hence wanting to validate where exactly people are to make absolutely sure this is correct.

But Is payed in The transaction And nothing go to my addres?

If Valve doesn't know where you are how can they collect the right amount (each US state is different, the EU is some number across the entire EU, and Australia is 10%)? How can they dispatch this tax to the government in question (which in the case of the EU is the nation i.e. France, Germany, etc not just the EU itself)?

Now they don't need to know where you are exactly. But it's easier to validate addresses if you make people give their real billing address, since you can then check it against a database of valid addresses and if it fails you know they are lying.

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Origineel geplaatst door Darren:

Origineel geplaatst door soomerray:

But Is payed in The transaction And nothing go to my addres?

If Valve doesn't know where you are how can they collect the right amount (each US state is different, the EU is some number across the entire EU, and Australia is 10%)? How can they dispatch this tax to the government in question (which in the case of the EU is the nation i.e. France, Germany, etc not just the EU itself)?

Now they don't need to know where you are exactly. But it's easier to validate addresses if you make people give their real billing address, since you can then check it against a database of valid addresses and if it fails you know they are lying.

They can check country of resistence.

[Darren]

Origineel geplaatst door soomerray:

Origineel geplaatst door Darren:

If Valve doesn't know where you are how can they collect the right amount (each US state is different, the EU is some number across the entire EU, and Australia is 10%)? How can they dispatch this tax to the government in question (which in the case of the EU is the nation i.e. France, Germany, etc not just the EU itself)?

Now they don't need to know where you are exactly. But it's easier to validate addresses if you make people give their real billing address, since you can then check it against a database of valid addresses and if it fails you know they are lying.

They can check country of resistence.

How? You haven't given them any yet. That's what the billing details provide (and as they would have to pass basic validations such as the address exists, and it's a commercial or residential building proves).

I could say I lived in any country in the would. But I don't I live in one of them (not being one of those rich enough to bounce around countries often) and thus only have details for one location.

[isomorphic_projection]

Origineel geplaatst door Darren:

Origineel geplaatst door soomerray:

But Is payed in The transaction And nothing go to my addres?

If Valve doesn't know where you are how can they collect the right amount (each US state is different, the EU is some number across the entire EU, and Australia is 10%)? How can they dispatch this tax to the government in question (which in the case of the EU is the nation i.e. France, Germany, etc not just the EU itself)?

Now they don't need to know where you are exactly. But it's easier to validate addresses if you make people give their real billing address, since you can then check it against a database of valid addresses and if it fails you know they are lying.

Well that's a problem, which tax system do you bill. The EU's, or those from countries not following the EU law meaning i pay to much.

[Darren]

Origineel geplaatst door isomorphic_projection:

Origineel geplaatst door Darren:

If Valve doesn't know where you are how can they collect the right amount (each US state is different, the EU is some number across the entire EU, and Australia is 10%)? How can they dispatch this tax to the government in question (which in the case of the EU is the nation i.e. France, Germany, etc not just the EU itself)?

Now they don't need to know where you are exactly. But it's easier to validate addresses if you make people give their real billing address, since you can then check it against a database of valid addresses and if it fails you know they are lying.

Well that's a problem, which tax system do you bill. The EU's, or those from countries not following the EU law meaning i pay to much.

If you give them your accurate billing details they'll charge you the correct tax for where you reside. Thus you won't be paying too much. You'll be paying exactly what you are supposed to and it'll go to exactly the right government for use in public works projects, military funding, etc.

[isomorphic_projection]

Origineel geplaatst door Darren:

Origineel geplaatst door isomorphic_projection:

Well that's a problem, which tax system do you bill. The EU's, or those from countries not following the EU law meaning i pay to much.

If you give them your accurate billing details they'll charge you the correct tax for where you reside. Thus you won't be paying too much. You'll be paying exactly what you are supposed to and it'll go to exactly the right government for use in public works projects, military funding, etc.

I bought a steam wallet card in a store. They need to bill the store.

[Glimmer]

Origineel geplaatst door Terraria Smurf 1337 Hours:

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i thought gog was short for some longer name ^^'

Used to be short for Good Old Games, but as they started to sell newer games they rebranded to just use their abbreviation.

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Origineel geplaatst door Darren:

Origineel geplaatst door isomorphic_projection:

Well that's a problem, which tax system do you bill. The EU's, or those from countries not following the EU law meaning i pay to much.

If you give them your accurate billing details they'll charge you the correct tax for where you reside. Thus you won't be paying too much. You'll be paying exactly what you are supposed to and it'll go to exactly the right government for use in public works projects, military funding, etc.

so maybe it's clear why someone would cheat on this? not possible? It would be a tax evasion if the user entered the wrong country of residence, if he only backed the false address name and city so it goes still the correct country.

[Matt]

Origineel geplaatst door isomorphic_projection:

I bought a steam wallet card in a store. They need to bill the store.

With gift cards, taxes are paid when the gift card is redeemed (used) by the person redeeming it.

Think of a gift card as simply another currency. All you're doing is exchanging your money for "Steam money."

For example, if I exchanged US dollars for Mexican pesos at my bank then used those pesos to buy a cake at the grocery store, I still pay taxes on the cake purchase at the grocery store. The mere fact that I exchanged one currency for another doesn't mean I don't pay taxes.

[Darren]

Origineel geplaatst door isomorphic_projection:

Origineel geplaatst door Darren:

If you give them your accurate billing details they'll charge you the correct tax for where you reside. Thus you won't be paying too much. You'll be paying exactly what you are supposed to and it'll go to exactly the right government for use in public works projects, military funding, etc.

I bought a steam wallet card in a store. They need to bill the store.

There is no tax charged on wallet card purchases. If you did get charged on the wallet purchase you should go back to the store and refund the card. Taxes are only charged on the purchases of things that add value (hence the name value added tax - VAT in the EU) otherwise known as goods/services (hence the name goods and services tax - GST in Australia). A wallet card is neither, but the product when you make a purchase with it is.

Hence the billing information required on the purchase of the product, not the wallet card.

[isomorphic_projection]

Origineel geplaatst door Darren:

Origineel geplaatst door isomorphic_projection:

I bought a steam wallet card in a store. They need to bill the store.

There is no tax charged on wallet card purchases. If you did get charged on the wallet purchase you should go back to the store and refund the card. Taxes are only charged on the purchases of things that add value (hence the name value added tax - VAT in the EU) otherwise known as goods/services (hence the name goods and services tax - GST in Australia). A wallet card is neither, but the product when you make a purchase with it is.

Hence the billing information required on the purchase of the product, not the wallet card.

Well in that case they need to add, for how much they could bill me. Meaning how much is tax in the us. Not like i fill in my form and i get taxed more then that the game would cost. They need to provide more info. Are they gonna bill me, and use EU tax laws or netherlands tax laws last signed for it but does not follow it. EU tax is lower, netherlands higher. They should sort this stuff out on govermental levels between the us, the eu and the netherlands.

[Darren]

Origineel geplaatst door isomorphic_projection:

Origineel geplaatst door Darren:

There is no tax charged on wallet card purchases. If you did get charged on the wallet purchase you should go back to the store and refund the card. Taxes are only charged on the purchases of things that add value (hence the name value added tax - VAT in the EU) otherwise known as goods/services (hence the name goods and services tax - GST in Australia). A wallet card is neither, but the product when you make a purchase with it is.

Hence the billing information required on the purchase of the product, not the wallet card.

Well in that case they need to add, for how much they could bill me. Meaning how much is tax in the us. Not like i fill in my form and i get taxed more then that the game would cost. They need to provide more info. Are they gonna bill me, and use EU tax laws or netherlands tax laws last signed for it but does not follow it. EU tax is lower, netherlands higher. They should sort this stuff out on govermental levels between the us, the eu and the netherlands.

Once you enter your billing information if the tax results in a change to your checkout price you will switch back to cart showing you the updated pricing (including tax breakdowns which I get all the time correctly because they already know I'm in Australia).

They are going to use the current sales tax rates for the country you currently live in. If you live in the Netherlands, it'll be the Netherlands rate.

[isomorphic_projection]

Origineel geplaatst door Matt:

Origineel geplaatst door isomorphic_projection:

I bought a steam wallet card in a store. They need to bill the store.

With gift cards, taxes are paid when the gift card is redeemed (used) by the person redeeming it.

Think of a gift card as simply another currency. All you're doing is exchanging your money for "Steam money."

For example, if I exchanged US dollars for Mexican pesos at my bank then used those pesos to buy a cake at the grocery store, I still pay taxes on the cake purchase at the grocery store. The mere fact that I exchanged one currency for another doesn't mean I don't pay taxes.

Yes, then you also have internet protocols, my download region set for the netherlands, meaning tax is in the price of the game. They already have what they need.

[Matt]

You seem to be diving way too deep into sales tax discussions, which is very complicated.

It's not really something you need to be concerned with. All you have to do is provide the details asked by the merchant at checkout and they take care of the taxing. They'll determine how much to charge you for taxes (if any)...

[isomorphic_projection]

Origineel geplaatst door Darren:

Origineel geplaatst door isomorphic_projection:

Well in that case they need to add, for how much they could bill me. Meaning how much is tax in the us. Not like i fill in my form and i get taxed more then that the game would cost. They need to provide more info. Are they gonna bill me, and use EU tax laws or netherlands tax laws last signed for it but does not follow it. EU tax is lower, netherlands higher. They should sort this stuff out on govermental levels between the us, the eu and the netherlands.

Once you enter your billing information if the tax results in a change to your checkout price you will switch back to cart showing you the updated pricing (including tax breakdowns which I get all the time correctly because they already know I'm in Australia).

They are going to use the current sales tax rates for the country you currently live in. If you live in the Netherlands, it'll be the Netherlands rate.

If they want to know the dutch tax rates, google and don't bother me. IPv6, download region, steam wallet card number attached to store in bought it game mania. Only thing i can come up with, is that the legit card sold in the store was excaly bought in another country by that store. For those who once bought a card at the aldi, you know what i mean.