van Grunz Oct 3, 2021 @ 9:49pm
Friends Network Unreachable [Solved]
Hello out there,

since some days, perhaps a week, I cannot connect within Steam program to friends network (Windows).

This is weird, because in Miranda IM it DOES connect to my Steam Friends. There, I do see my friends online.

I have checked my network logs to see wheather there's something blocked, but it isn't. All Steam network communication seems to be just fine.

Is anybody else having an issue like that?

Are some specific Steam servers down for longer?

Edit: Solved, see here:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/2963922521569983792/?ctp=4
Last edited by van Grunz; Oct 6, 2021 @ 1:58pm

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MIND ЯEWIND 2 Oct 3, 2021 @ 10:30pm 
Same,since 1 october
steam servers are delaying so it's a issue that still being worked on
van Grunz Oct 4, 2021 @ 12:05am 
so I am not the only one...thank you for feedback
Lord Indy Oct 4, 2021 @ 12:22am 
Same, since about Sept 30th. Chat is 100% down but still receiving green mail icon notifications for unread messages (so servers must be functioning?). Also, all images in the profile, community, etc pages only appear as basic html text and broken image icons; but in a chromium browser this is displaying fine.
Last edited by Lord Indy; Oct 4, 2021 @ 12:23am
van Grunz Oct 4, 2021 @ 12:30am 
Chromium...so this is a reverse into more tracking of users? Don't want to imagine...

But, anywhere, why does the friends function not work in standard's steam program on windows? This makes no sense. They could track as much as they want to.
crunchyfrog Oct 4, 2021 @ 12:37am 
There have been a couple of issues going on recently.

First off there's an issue with Windows 7 users where you need and SSL certificate updating (because Valve haven't done it).

The other one is that for the last week or so Valve have been fiddling with something on their backend and there's been a few connection issues for a number of people.

When there are server issues you can ususaly spot them pretty quickly by how Steam behaves. Friends list is usually the first thing to ♥♥♥♥ up, followed by you inventory not showing (or not shoing up properly), and sometimes the store and payments going wonky too.

What I typically do if this happens is simply leave anything rather administrative involving those things until last things before I go to bed, so that the fewest people are on and less chance of problems happening. Not ideal I know, but a workaround.
Illasera Oct 4, 2021 @ 12:44am 
Message from Steam Support on Oct 3 @ 10:50pm | 4 hours ago

Hello,

Thanks for writing in to report this issue.

We are aware of the problem and are investigating the issue further.

Steam Support / Jr. Portal Cake Tester
<Censored name>

I censored the guy's name ofcourse, for privacy reasons.

Answer : As mentioned, The issue is an SSL certificate for windows 7 that expired.

SSL cert Expiration date : Sept / 30 / 2021,

To OP (van Grunz), If you are behind windows 7, You may as well mark this post as an answer.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/2963922521562248602/

Link above with a solution, I recommend against using it, This is not a problem for the user to solve, but Valve's, As they are working on it.
Last edited by Illasera; Oct 4, 2021 @ 1:05am
Lord Indy Oct 4, 2021 @ 1:02am 
Originally posted by crunchyfrog:
There have been a couple of issues going on recently.
First off there's an issue with Windows 7 users where you need and SSL certificate updating (because Valve haven't done it).

:steamthumbsup:THANK YOU! This confirms what I suspected.
van Grunz Oct 4, 2021 @ 1:06am 
Originally posted by Illasera:
To OP (van Grunz), If you are behind windows 7, You may as well mark this post as an answer.

Yes, I am still on Windows 7, but there should be no encryption problem at all because the Steam client should bring everything it needs on every platform. So this is not an excuse. The first thing on my mind is that we should migrate to Windows 10 what I will refuse. Either it will be working on Windows 7 again or I will not use Steam any more. Sorry.
Illasera Oct 4, 2021 @ 1:09am 
Originally posted by van Grunz:
Originally posted by Illasera:
To OP (van Grunz), If you are behind windows 7, You may as well mark this post as an answer.

Yes, I am still on Windows 7, but there should be no encryption problem at all because the Steam client should bring everything it needs on every platform. So this is not an excuse. The first thing on my mind is that we should migrate to Windows 10 what I will refuse. Either it will be working on Windows 7 again or I will not use Steam any more. Sorry.

No problem mate, Actually valve has 2 choices...

A.)As you said, fix the issue so it will work on all platform (Which they are attempting to do)

OR...

B.)Drop Windows 7 from the list of supported operating systems by steam.
(Which means losing 5% of the market)

(I will derail the topic for "Van Grunz", if you have any concern for privacy, Avoid any POST windows 7 operating system. (Not that windows 7 is private but its lesser of two evils)
Last edited by Illasera; Oct 4, 2021 @ 1:12am
van Grunz Oct 4, 2021 @ 1:22am 
Well, let's see what will be going on the next days. I surely hope that Steam won't dodge their old Windows 7 users. Is it really an issue on certificates only? So Steam could use their own certificate system. Please don't rely on Windows 7 Operating System onlyl
Lord Indy Oct 4, 2021 @ 1:27am 
Originally posted by van Grunz:
Yes, I am still on Windows 7, but there should be no encryption problem...
The problem is because steam migrated their UI from IE to Chromium based (most of steam is just a glorified chromium web browser); chromium based browsers automatically block all sites with expired SSL certs (unless you to click that little warning that says "proceed anyway"). Since steam did'nt reup their certs their own UI engine is probably blocking them from displaying content.

Originally posted by Illasera:
(I will derail the topic for "Van Grunz", if you have any concern for privacy, Avoid any POST windows 7 operating system. (Not that windows 7 is private but its lesser of two evils)
Don't forget to avoid the 7 updates that add the telemetry and unrestricted remote file access that Win8/10 have. Not that it'll matter anyway...
Last edited by Lord Indy; Oct 4, 2021 @ 1:33am
crunchyfrog Oct 4, 2021 @ 1:28am 
Originally posted by van Grunz:
Originally posted by Illasera:
To OP (van Grunz), If you are behind windows 7, You may as well mark this post as an answer.

Yes, I am still on Windows 7, but there should be no encryption problem at all because the Steam client should bring everything it needs on every platform. So this is not an excuse. The first thing on my mind is that we should migrate to Windows 10 what I will refuse. Either it will be working on Windows 7 again or I will not use Steam any more. Sorry.
No, it's not an excuse. but it IS a real problem because we;ve been seeing a number of people posting it here. So if it affects you, there is a fix, as I say.

Should Valve fix this? Sure, but wouldn't you rather do it yourself now than be pedantic and wait until they get to it?
Thamtwz Oct 4, 2021 @ 1:31am 
I'm on Windows 10 as till date, same issue friends network unreachable.
Illasera Oct 4, 2021 @ 1:32am 
Originally posted by crunchyfrog:
Originally posted by van Grunz:

Yes, I am still on Windows 7, but there should be no encryption problem at all because the Steam client should bring everything it needs on every platform. So this is not an excuse. The first thing on my mind is that we should migrate to Windows 10 what I will refuse. Either it will be working on Windows 7 again or I will not use Steam any more. Sorry.
No, it's not an excuse. but it IS a real problem because we;ve been seeing a number of people posting it here. So if it affects you, there is a fix, as I say.

Should Valve fix this? Sure, but wouldn't you rather do it yourself now than be pedantic and wait until they get to it?

While adding new SSL certificate is safe, as a practice, i want the software developer to provide a solution, for liability reasons.

Originally posted by MarvelZT:
I'm on Windows 10 as till date, same issue friends network unreachable.

You also have this issue since sept 30 2021? if not , your issue is different than ours.
Last edited by Illasera; Oct 4, 2021 @ 1:33am
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